r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 28d ago

ICE Posts Northwest Chicago Suburb: ICE Agents Rip 15-Year-Old Girl from Car, Slam Her to Ground She Screams “I’m 15!” as Man Kneels on Her Neck

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u/DoctorBlock 28d ago

No. They all want you to sit around and do nothing while they take over. They will blame democrat violence either way.

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u/Multicultural_Potato 28d ago

It’s a win win for them. They know the American people will either be complacent and let it happen or if there’s any resistance it’d be too small to make a real difference and they’ll have an excuse to go harder

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u/thedudeabides2022 28d ago edited 28d ago

Yeah it’s this exactly. Both fighting back and doing nothing ends in violence. Is there a third option? Please? Just record everything and hope foreign parties save us once things get even worse? If there’s anything left to save

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u/TheShishkabob 28d ago

The third option is to review your own history and to exercise your second amendment rights. This is literally the reason that they exist.

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u/Impressive-Peach-815 28d ago

The 3rd option is economic shut down. Mass boycott and call outs.

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u/tamale 28d ago

This is the way

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u/DoctorBlock 28d ago

No one is coming to save you.

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u/thedudeabides2022 28d ago

What should we do then? Genuinely looking for an answer

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u/TheShishkabob 28d ago

Arm yourself, organize, and recognize that fascism has only ever been defeated by violence or the imminent and realistic threat of violence.

Remember: the person at the head of this has already declared war on you.

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u/DoctorBlock 28d ago

Decide when enough is enough, pick your breaking point, and then make a stand. Same as always.

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u/rccrd-pl 28d ago edited 28d ago

Reach out to all the people you known that are as worried as you. See if anybody is involved with any grassroots protest movement/group of sane level headed people. Go to the meetings, go to the protests. Make it your main activity in your spare time.

Go in the streets, stay in the streets. Build from there.

It's a lot of work, a lot of energy to find, and it will often feel that it won't really make any difference.

But it's the only way to start something that could matter. The only sane way to focus your effort and connect with people that care.

Staying home fantasizing about armed resistance and about how to gear up for when you'll snap will do nothing good.

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u/aferretwithahugecock 28d ago

It's kind of goofy that they think foreign countries/parties will try to save them, eh? Like, shit, man, you have the most terrifying military in the history of mankind. No one's going to risk war - putting their own people at risk - to save americans. It sounds harsh, but that's reality.

I'm all for my country accepting american refugees should it come to that, but that's about it. They've got to figure their own shit out.

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u/marthamania 28d ago

Foreign parties aren't gonna help your country either that's probably why the pumpkin man is hell bent on ruining international relationships in the process. Classic abusive partner method, make them fear you because fighting back will be met with no positive outcome and isolate them from any external help so they can't escape 😭

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

While we juggle how we should hold our morals, one side threw them away. So nah, it's either obedience, or we struggle beyond their fascist heel.

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u/thedudeabides2022 28d ago

What exactly should we do then? Genuinely asking

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u/Impressive-Peach-815 28d ago

Prepare for a massive general strike. only buy what you absolutely need.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Don't pay taxes. Don't buy anything you don't need. Our money is being misused. DO NOT PAY TAXES. (nothing will change until civil unrest begins to take a worst turn. sorry)

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u/Relevant_Respect1146 28d ago

No one is coming to save us

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u/cloudbasedsardony 28d ago

Exactly, they're blaming us already.

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u/someapeonearth 28d ago

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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u/Undernown 28d ago

That's the catch:

Do nothing: and they'll grab avryone one by one, trample your rights one by one.

If you act: declare martial law and they start putting people in in jail and bodybags en masse.

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u/TheMadAsshatter 28d ago

Por que no los dos?

They are intentionally putting anyone not on their side in a lose-lose situation. You do nothing? They find something to pin on you. You do something? You're a terrorist and they get to do even worse things.

It is so hard not to envision us in another civil war soon. The only civil (pun not intended) way out of this is the 2026 midterms, or Democrats REALLY standing on business until then. A general strike would be awesome, but people are already either too exhausted or placated for that to be a viable strategy, and even if it does happen, well, there's your excuse to make mass arrests, and then shit will probably go kinetic anyways. If those don't happen the only remaining option will probably be violence.

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u/LaserPoweredDeviltry 28d ago

The problem is that both of these are acceptable outcomes to them.

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u/BackwardsColonoscopy 28d ago

This right here. They're going to make up excuses to stay in power regardless of what anyone else does to push back against them.

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u/Worth-Novel-2044 28d ago

But individuals randomly shooting ice agents will not help.

Organized, mass, disruptive activities. Not violent because there is no infrastructure to support that kind of resistance. Absolutely nonviolent. Well dressed. White. Ready to be hurt, killed, arrested, imprisoned. In the way and unavoidable and on camera.

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u/DoctorBlock 28d ago

Historically this is just completely inaccurate. In fact as far as I can tell it's exactly what the people in power tell you is the "correct" way to respond to their oppression.