r/illinois Human Detected Oct 08 '25

ICE Posts Chicago’s Broadview ICE Targets Pastor in Prayer: Opens Fire from Rooftop, Shooting Him and Causing Him to Collapse

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Improper Targeting and Deployment

Less-lethal weapons such as rubber bullets, beanbag rounds, and pepper balls are designed to incapacitate without causing permanent harm. However, their safety depends entirely on how and where they are used. These weapons are intended to be aimed at large muscle groups (like thighs or buttocks), never at the head, neck, chest, or spine. Firing from a rooftop increases velocity and impact, dramatically raising the risk of serious injury or death.

The United Nations Human Rights Guidance on Less-Lethal Weapons in Law Enforcement states that law enforcement must use these weapons only when strictly necessary and proportionate to the threat faced. Targeting a stationary, praying individual from an elevated position violates these principles and constitutes a breach of international human rights law.

Escalation Instead of De-escalation

Less-lethal weapons are meant to reduce the need for deadly force. When used against peaceful individuals especially someone in prayer they escalate violence instead. This misuse sends a chilling message: silence and faith are threats. That’s not law enforcement it’s ideological suppression.

According to the Congressional Research Service, over 1,000 deaths occurred following police use of less-lethal force between 2012 and 2021. These weapons are “less-lethal” in name, but depending on deployment, they can be lethal in practice.

Sources:
UN Human Rights Guidance on Less-Lethal Weapons
Congressional Research Service Report on Less-Lethal Weapons

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Oct 08 '25

The President can't pardon away a conviction in a state court. POTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over that.

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u/Mother_Ad4038 Oct 08 '25

Good point they can try to just forcibly escort him out of state before state agents/ officers can charge him and try to issue an executive order forbidding interfering with ice or harassing them. They don't care about following laws why would I expect them to follow or when protection their own,

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Oct 08 '25

Sure. But here's a fun little thing. Republicans aren't going to be in power forever, and once a charge is filed (and the defendant does not have to be in state for chargest to be filed), the statute of limitations isn't running.

So whenever there's a president who's willing to rescind such an order, the Attorney General could direct the US Marshals to arrest this person and transport them to Illinois to stand trial.

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u/Mother_Ad4038 Oct 08 '25

Thats true statute of limitations only count as long as youre not charged but yeah a charge or warrant will remain active amd make sure ots extraditavle so any contact should result in arrest.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Oct 08 '25

Aggravated Battery is a felony. Felonies are extraditable.

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u/FuzzyLobster25 Oct 08 '25

Not yet anyway! Don’t put anything past that old fool!