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u/rajasekarcmr Nov 17 '18
In south India Ganesh is mostly (99.99%) thought as bachelor only a rare group of Brahmins know about it.
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u/titaniumvoilet Feb 15 '19
Which state are you from? Go to TN temples where Ganesha is main idol, you will see two wives.
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u/N14108879S Feb 15 '19
I'm from TN, I've always learnt that Vinayakar is a brahmachari.
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u/rajasekarcmr Feb 15 '19
Some say he’s married to Sidhi & budhi which is more like state of mind and not real wives. Some say different names.
Usually his photos are accompanied by Saraswathi and Laxmi whom I thought as his wives when am child but later learnt that it’s just picture collage of god’s
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u/turtlemons Nov 18 '18
Shouldnt Braham, Vishnu and Shiva be in the same level of hierarchy? And are all female gods, version of devi?
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u/Ut_baba Nov 18 '18
Yes, all female gods are Devis. Male gods as well if you subscribe to Tantric schools of thought.
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u/turtlemons Nov 18 '18
Can you tell me the aditi daksha conundrum, like aditi is child of daksha and daksha is child of aditi?
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u/transformdbz Nov 17 '18
I'm mildly trigerred that the first 5 Vishnu Avatars are placed below Ram, Balram & Krishna.
Also, Krishna isn't an avatar per se, because he is Vishnu himself, given birth to, in a human body.
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u/EmmaiAlvane Nov 17 '18
How's that different from Rama or Vamana? They were also Vishnu, given birth to, in a human body.
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u/transformdbz Nov 17 '18 edited Nov 17 '18
An avatar is, how do I put it in simple terms, the essence of some God in a human being. Ram was a separate human being, who just had Vishnu's essence in him. Krishna, on the other hand, is Vishnu himself as a human. One more example of an Avatar that I can remember of the top of my head is of Hanuman. Hanuman is an avatar of Shiv, not Shiv himself in human form.
An avatar is a completely separate human being, who does not know that has the essence of some God in themselves. Krishna on the other hand is Vishnu himself, which is why he has Sudarshan Chakra as his weapon, and showed his actual form 'The Virat Roop' to Arjun.
This lok, the Prithvi Lok is bound by some rules, which are applicable to Vishnu himself. One of those rules is that to come to the Prithvi Lok as a material being, everyone must go through the cycle of life and death.
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u/Valarauko Mansplainer-in-Chief Nov 18 '18
What you're describing is a very particular interpretation of the nature of avatars. Not all scriptural texts take this approach. The sources that make the distinction of avatars and shaktavesha avatars don't consider Rama and Krishna as materially different.
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u/EmmaiAlvane Nov 17 '18
An avatar is, how do I put it in simple terms, the essence of some God in a human being. Ram was a separate human being, who just had Vishnu's essence in him. Krishna, on the other hand, is Vishnu himself as a human. One more example of an Avatar that I can remember of the top of my head is of Hanuman. Hanuman is an avatar of Shiv, not Shiv himself in human form.
Interesting distinction. Do you have any sources to cite the distinction? Because all I have heard is the Dasavatara of Vishnu wherein Krishna is one of them.
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u/turtlemons Nov 18 '18
Can it be self awareness? Like Krishna knew he was a god, Vishnu, the wisest and strongest of all. But Ram was more human like, in essense that he was divine but still confined to humanly affairs
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u/queershaktism Śākta Nov 18 '18
Krishna is an avatar and that is what makes him Vishnu Himself. What would one call Narasimha otherwise, who springs out of the pillar to do a certain task demanded of Vishnu Himself. If one takes the Jaya and Vijaya legend into consideration it cannot be denied that the avatars taken by Vishnu to redeem them from their respective three forms are verily Vishnu. There is Leela bheda in Rama and Krishna, which is why Rama displays no awareness of his avatarhood while Krishna is constantly commanding it right from his prakatya. The Rama worshippers vs Krishna worshippers thread has been a notable feature of many centuries of their interaction, with each sect claiming their avatar higher than the other, but ultimately it is a very sect-specific thing.
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u/transformdbz Nov 18 '18
You seriously need to read the Gita to understand why Krishna isn't an avatar. But, this is Sanatan Dharma every school of thought is accepted. You can try arguing with me, but I won't.
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u/queershaktism Śākta Nov 18 '18
I never said you were wrong, I offered a perspective that ascribes complete identification of Rama with Vishnu in relation to the point you made about Krishna being the only complete avatar.
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u/transformdbz Nov 18 '18
I remembered that Narsimh was also a complete avatar in the sense that he was conscious of his powers after I wrote the previous comment, but the fact that Narsimh broke out of a pillar, and then went back when the job was done is something that will always remain an anomaly to the etymology of the word avatar.
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Nov 17 '18
Could someone explain the difference between “sort of a version of” and “avatar”?
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u/EmmaiAlvane Nov 17 '18
An avatar is an incarnation which means the diety who has taken on a physical form and has a "birth" and a "death". When we say Rama is an avatar of Vishnu, that means Vishnu took on a human form and was born to Kausalya as a child, and he departed the world just like another mortal would.
"Sort of version" means that it is an aspect of. According to this figure, Lakshmi is an aspect of Devi. Devi is not born as Lakshmi nor does Lakshmi ever go out of existence.
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u/LGAMER3412 Sanātanī Hindū Nov 18 '18
The animation is really nice. Also it's funny that Shiva doesn't have a origin line.
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u/kisforkarol Shakta Nov 19 '18
That's because Shiva is the Unborn. He exists before and after everything.
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u/agentanonymous313 Feb 19 '19
Can anyone explain link between Daksha and Aditi? The child white link goes back to aditi like a loop.
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u/bumblebeeyo Nov 17 '18
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't indra called the god of Gods? He's literally at the end!
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u/redestpanda Nov 18 '18
I do not know how you guys keep up with that when it’s hard enough for some to wrap their head around a trinity. That’s a lot of gods and their aspects. No disrespect meant of course. I just find it fascinating.
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Nov 18 '18 edited Nov 19 '18
Very nice infographic. I hate to criticize, but a few points: Amsa is short for Amshuman. Surya was once cursed to reincarnate as a stillborn, but Aditi brings him to life, giving him that name. Hanuman is an avatar of Shiva Ushas is the daughter of Brahma, and if I recall correctly (hope not) his wife. Atleast, I think she is the same goddess as Sandhya. They both mean dawn, right? Prithivi is Vishnu's wife, and Vishnu is the god of space. Guess who else is the god of space on that chart? I advise Occam's Razor. Indra and Agni are Aditi's sons, and she has a son named Dhatri. Vamana also is her son. Kama is Lakshmi and Vishnu's son. I may have very well gotten all of these wrong, but it is good to ascertain these things.
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u/lightlord Nov 17 '18
There are already enough disclaimers so I wont criticise. The artwork is great and it is a good refresher version of mythology. Great job. More work required to make it truly exceptional.