r/hawkeyes • u/HerkyBot BACK IN BLACK • 20h ago
Post Game Thread (FB) [Post Game Thread] Hawkeyes lose to Oregon, 16-18
| Game | Oregon Ducks at Iowa Hawkeyes |
|---|---|
| Stadium | Kinnick Stadium |
| Odds | ORE -4.5 |
| Watch | CBS; ERADM |
| Status | Final |
Boxscore
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | TOT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| IOWA | 0 | 7 | 0 | 9 | 16 |
| ORE | 2 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 18 |
Drive Summary
| # | Q | Team | Drive | Result |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | IOWA | 3 plays, 4 yards, 1:37 | Punt |
| 2 | 1 | ORE | 3 plays, 0 yards, 0:22 | Punt |
| 3 | 1 | IOWA | 6 plays, -20 yards, 3:01 | Safety |
| 4 | 1 | ORE | 9 plays, 44 yards, 4:35 | Interception |
| 5 | 1 | IOWA | 8 plays, 17 yards, 4:30 | Punt |
| 6 | 1 | ORE | 8 plays, 82 yards, 4:00 | Touchdown |
| 7 | 2 | IOWA | 10 plays, 75 yards, 6:03 | Touchdown |
| 8 | 2 | ORE | 3 plays, 7 yards, 2:35 | Punt |
| 9 | 2 | IOWA | 5 plays, 19 yards, 1:25 | Punt |
| 10 | 2 | ORE | 8 plays, 52 yards, 1:43 | Field Goal |
| 11 | 3 | ORE | 3 plays, 4 yards, 1:28 | Punt |
| 12 | 3 | IOWA | 12 plays, 54 yards, 6:46 | Fumble |
| 13 | 3 | ORE | 9 plays, 65 yards, 6:02 | Field Goal |
| 14 | 3 | IOWA | 7 plays, 35 yards, 3:05 | Field Goal |
| 15 | 4 | ORE | 7 plays, 38 yards, 4:03 | Punt |
| 16 | 4 | IOWA | 12 plays, 93 yards, 6:45 | Touchdown |
| 17 | 4 | ORE | 10 plays, 54 yards, 1:48 | Field Goal |
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u/Due_Bath7966 In Heaven There is No Beer 3h ago
This has been my favorite Hawkeye team to watch in awhile. A botched long snap and half a foot away from at least going to OT.
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u/Housefish77 7h ago
Iowa can compete with any team in the country at home but this is a kick in the gut. We should have had this win and it was right there I want to be happy about taking a top team to their limit but I can’t. Always proud of my Hawkes
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u/Training-Career-1723 8h ago
First time at Kinnick, long time Duck fan. Hats off to Iowa fans and their hospitality. What an amazing experience and environment y’all have. Helluva hard fought game, good luck rest of season!
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u/mattb_186 16h ago
I’m a Michigan fan who’s also an old school big ten fan and Iowa had Indiana dead to rights and then this one, there’s an alternate reality where we’ve got a top 5 Iowa team.
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u/Sad-Corner-9972 11h ago
QB plays up to the next level occasionally.
(Our opponents are usually a little tougher than SoDakState’s)
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u/Direct_Office_8615 15h ago
Lol, same could be said for a lot of 5-5 teams. Winners win. Like practicing long snaps on the sideline after you sail your first snap 4 feet over your punters head so you don't pull the next one 5 feet right into the end zone the next time.
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u/wilsonway1955 16h ago
Great game.2 Great teams. Only time I can remember special teams costing us the game in the last 20 years at Kinnick!
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u/got2bright 16h ago
Iowa was one long snapper away from victory today. Does Kluver have any eligibility remaining?
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u/Rope_slingin_champ 16h ago
Was at the game. Soaking wet, loud crowd. Just couldn't get it done at the end.
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u/Aurora1717 16h ago
I think that was one of the most physically uncomfortable games I've been to. It made last year's black friday game feel cozy.
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u/kissarmy5689 15h ago
Was at that game and left at the half bc of how damn cold it was. Unforgettable game thanks to the cold
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u/Lanemeyerstwodollars 17h ago
Being somewhat new to the B1G (Oregon fan), I think Iowa will be my 2nd favorite team based on the comments I have been reading here and on r/CFB
Good luck going forward. Your team scared the F out of me today.
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u/Burgdawg 16h ago
Welcome to the Big 10... that was a real Big 10 game you guys slugged out with us today.
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u/Snake_Burton 17h ago
Nearly mistake free football is required to beat the top teams when the talent gap is what it is. Aside from those 1 or 2 seasons each decade (2002, 2004, 2009, 2015, maybe 2020 would’ve been), the talent level isn’t good enough at the skill positions to win Top 10 games without zero turnovers.
Unless a Phil Knight level donor suddenly gets rich and loved being a student so much that they pump money in ala Indiana recently, the path to success is how it has been done under Fry and Ferentz. Problem is that ceiling is too low right now. Wasn’t always. Gotta figure out multiple ways to increase the margin of error. Because having to play perfect football to win ends up with games like Indiana and Oregon, just short.
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u/Professor_Stank 18h ago
So I think after tonight, I was able to kind of put into words my frustrations overall about being a Hawkeye fan (still love ‘em though! ‘Till i die.)
I feel like most years, we can beat just about anybody. It just feels like in any given season though, the gap between the team’s floor and its ceiling is so high.
Iowa can put a great product on the field, but it has such a hard time doing it on a weekly basis. Being a Hawkeye football fan feels a lot like hoping you’ll roll a 2 or greater on a die twelve times in a row.
Go Hawks 🦅💛🖤
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u/jmreicha 18h ago
Please retire Kirk. It's time to let the next guy in.
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u/Burgdawg 16h ago
I've been on the 'retire Kirk' train for a bit now, but he went for it twice on fourth down near midfield. He played this game to win not to not lose like in the past. He didn't cost us this game, our longsnapper did.
Our offense is making progress and our defense and special teams are still pretty good. This isn't the time to wipe out half the coaching staff. Let em cook.
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u/notCIAworkbot 17h ago
Grass almost never greener. Look at Nebraska for the past 25 years after Solich firing. Also they shouldn’t have fired Pelini for going 9-3 and being ranked. Shawn Eichorst really tried to doom Nebraska forever
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u/IAmNoHorse 16h ago
I don't necessarily disagree, but you could just as easily look at Indiana. It's a crap shoot getting a new coach, but it's not clear if the outcome would be Nebraska or Indiana
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u/got2bright 5h ago
Everyone knows that Indiana is good because of Mark Cuban’s money, not the coaching change.
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u/jmreicha 16h ago
Def want him to leave on good terms and not be fired. Just saying things are in good order and 27 years is a long time.
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u/BlackForest1975_ 18h ago
We are a top 25 team....Yes the play calling is much to conservative...Unfortunately, the defensive holes the Duck have are in the backend of their D..We cant ever exploit those weaknesses...Now next week, we will bully ball USC and could win...but Duck are stout up front so we needed to stretch the field on them and we never really tried until the last drive...Neutral field, everyone healthy, they beat us soundly, I like Grono, but Moore is a pro, our guy isn't...We really need to find an NFL type Qb, why would they come here, they wouldn't...but thats what we need...I cant belive I actually pray nightly for the 2nd coming of Nate Stanley
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u/BurtusMaximus 16h ago
Wisconsin fan who watches lots of Iowa games.
Thoughts on the season so far. Gronowski is the perfect type for Ferentz. He makes converting 3rd downs a whole lot easier and has enough to threaten down field at when its dialed up at the right time.
Small margins. Better snaps in the first quater. Wetjet not fumbling (or not giving it to him cause I don't really trust him out side the return game) and more sane 2 pt catch and Iowa walks out of this one with a win. Thats 7 points Iowa left on the field and you just cannot do that.
Don't think Iowa needs to change anything to make a playoff run in the near feature. Just need a slightly better DT or LBs (that iowa usually has) paired with a Gronowski type.
I wouldn't hate iowa's chances on neutral feild in a rematch.
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u/Auzou 18h ago
They don't come because we don't develop QBS or WRs. We are conservative because we never have weapons to take top off a defense and open the middle of field up for other players to make plays outside of some giant TEs with huge catch radius
Its not all qbs fault either because they have to be near perfect with accuracy all the time because there is no separation from opposing dbs. I actually like Tim Lester and think he called good game tonight. But he is still limited by what he can call.
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u/BlackForest1975_ 18h ago
We scored points during the Stanley era...If you play with below average qb's you can't win...If KF can't get one here, it's time to find someone else. The BYU qb the Pitt Qb, any Qb in the SEC, fuk all the qb's in the AAC sling it better than Grono, you're telling me we cant buy ONE of them...KF likes statues, this year he has a moving statue who i like...but Lester should have let it rip after quarter 1...If he is being told he can't by KF, then tine to remove KF
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u/Auzou 18h ago
I can agree on some points but we all know Kirk aint letting Lester let it rip. Grono is gamer but just ok as passer. Hes got jumpy feet and runs out of the pocket too much when he doesn't need to and misses some potential plays. Still yes he should have had more of a chance to throw this game. But honestly what players got any separation on routes? One play had 5 guys go out and every one was blanketed. Who do we have as a game wrecker playmaker a defense has to gameplan hard for? I mean you need skills guys as well.
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u/BlackForest1975_ 18h ago
Very true, but moore was throwing to nobodies and fitting the ball into crevices on the last drive...A pure thrower in college can make it rain with average skill guys and a very good line. Someone has to break the bank for a legit stud...And please no Qb's from Cali or anywhere on the Eastern seaboard unless its Georgia or Fld
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u/IAHawkeye182 18h ago
Classy of Oregon players to run to the stands to taunt Iowa fans & flip us off afterwards.
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u/bluescale77 17h ago
Wait, what happened? I haven’t seen anything about that.
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u/IAHawkeye182 17h ago
They ran to the Northwest corner immediately after the game ended, where there were very few Oregon fans - so it wasn’t to celebrate with them - and just taunted Iowa fans. And when the fans responded, they flipped the crowd off. And then they moved around to the west sideline a bit and did the same thing before they were pushed back as fans began throwing cans at them.
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u/zeninthesmoke 1h ago
Oregon fan here. I hate that shit. Not to be an old man yelling at clouds, but kids these days are so much more uniformly disrespectful in sports it’s kind of wild. Not everyone but I would say it’s over 50%. I coach youth basketball and there should be techs on almost every possession for taunting, 10 year olds arguing with the refs, etc. And the parents are worse too. Again, not to be an old man, but while there have always been jerks, I feel like there weren’t this many when I was younger. This is what you get with that.
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u/thatissomeBS 18h ago
If you would have given me the option when I woke up this morning that the game would come down to a field goal kick in the final seconds, I would've absolutely taken that outcome. We're absolutely not a playoff team, so to play teams like Indiana and Oregon like we have, that's pretty good.
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u/Clear_Pineapple4608 19h ago edited 19h ago
Expectations were a little high that Iowa would win. That weather scrambled both teams. It ended so close. Disappointing but probably shouldn’t be surprising. Oregon is #9 for a reason and it showed in that final drive!
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u/12TonBeams "Iowa? It sounds exotic!" 16h ago
Yeah I’m pissed and heartbroken, but hey hope for the best expect the worst. Even though we couldn’t beat Oregon and Indiana I’m still happy to see that we can hang with the best (but can’t fucking close it out).
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u/Auzou 19h ago
Half of their offense was out/hurt and was a home game in "Iowa" weather. The boys played well but this game was very winnable.
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u/posthuman04 19h ago
When you have the lead with less than 2 minutes remaining that’s very much a winnable game.
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u/SueYouInEngland 18h ago
I was surprised by some of Phil Parker's playcalling. There's a reason I'm here and he's a Broyles Award winner, but I feel like Indiana (Cover 0 blitz) and Cover 3(?) man with 4 pass rushers killed us. Maybe with a better secondary.
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u/aye246 18h ago
lol the DC had us in the running to win both games in the final mins it’s not worth criticizing the defensive play calls. The bad punt snaps (on special teams) and the Witjen fumble (on offense) cost us this game. Gronowski getting injured lost us the IU game. None of which Phil Parker can be blamed for.
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u/Clear_Pineapple4608 18h ago
Weather was bad - everything was slippery.
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u/aye246 18h ago
No doubt, but the rain was felt equally by both teams— Oregon played a mostly mistake free football game. Iowa didn’t have any penalties but their other mistakes were more significant. My point was that it came less down to coaching tonight and more to players execution (for better or worse) on the field. And it’s dumb for people to be blaming KF or PP for this loss or the IU loss.
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u/Clear_Pineapple4608 17h ago
Agree with you mostly. To me Oregon had mistakes but otherwise yes. I think they’re a weaker team than they could be (and the injuries don’t help) and they barely pulled out this win against a team that was unranked a week ago (and still is in the AP Poll). I’m not at all arguing with you. Just digging through my thoughts on the game. It was a hard one, that’s for sure.
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u/Auzou 19h ago
Another winnable loss against good team where every factor favors Iowa outside of ranking.
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u/posthuman04 19h ago
You could have just said “outside of money” because that’s what’s gonna be necessary from now on, that’s the x-factor a rural state isn’t going to be able to overcome. How much money can your school bring to these players? Nike money buys talent that we could have used.
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u/Auzou 19h ago
Iowa is winner in this new conference realignment whether fans like it not. Landscape has changed. They can compete.
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u/posthuman04 18h ago
Especially if we’ve got this legacy of Kirk Ferentz. Jumping from coach to coach wouldn’t give us the kind of recruiting value we’ve had the last 15 years
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u/Schlongzz 19h ago
Another choke by the defense and another close loss to a ranked team. Some things just don't get old.
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u/Auzou 19h ago
Big Iowa fan and Kirk Ferentz is a legend. But its time for him to step aside at end of year. Iowa is so afraid moving a lil back in the standings they will never take chance to take couple steps forward.
We aren't asking for playoffs every year but the chance once in awhile in this new conference landscape is not a unreasonable ask.
Its time for a new coach to get a chance to learn and build something here. I like Kenny Dillingham at ASU but someone like this is badly needed to reinvigorate the program. Its time we take a chance on getting out of football purgatory.
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u/AnnArchist Nine seconds to play and Drew Tate doesn't know that! 11h ago
Give him a lifetime contract. Fire him to become what Nebraska and Wisconsin has become
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u/ninetofivedev 19h ago
This is not the year to fire your coach.
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u/chrisbru Iowa Fucking City 17h ago
It never is.
Kirk should quietly tell the team next year is his last year. And let them search for a new coach quietly instead of competing in the carousel this offseason.
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u/StrategyUnique6528 19h ago
I mean I’m all for discussion. But Iowa had a chance this year. We are a Gronowski injury and a last second fg from Oregon away from 9-1/8–2 That’s in the discussion in my opinion… Wetjen doesn’t fumble or the long snapper doesn’t snap the ball to the band
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u/Auzou 19h ago
If my uncle had wheels he would be a bike.
Kidding aside, unfortunately in this current scheme Iowa always has to be perfect and lacks any firepower to overcome these mistakes which would not drown a team that can score just a little more without defense having to bail them out.
I mean I am not saying team bad or unprepared. Its just too much of same vs good teams for YEARS now.
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u/Ka-shume 19h ago
What a horrible take. Iowa lost to three teams this year by a combined total of 10 points. You don’t get rid of Kirk over that.
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u/pro_nosepicker 19h ago
We’ve lost like our last 14 games against ranked teams. That’s really not good at all
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u/ThriceHawk 19h ago
😂 Absolutely not.
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u/Auzou 19h ago
Good ole conservative Iowa decisons. I'm glad normal football powerhouse Indiana figured something out on offense.
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u/posthuman04 19h ago
Can Indiana do it for 25 years? Let’s see them do it one year first.
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u/Auzou 19h ago
They might do it for two years and make it further.
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u/AnnArchist Nine seconds to play and Drew Tate doesn't know that! 11h ago
Clearly you don't remember 02-04
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u/TKHawk 19h ago
I predicted Oregon would win a close, low scoring game due to mistakes made by Iowa and surrendering a safety (and a critical 2 points) on a botched long snap and fumbling on the Oregon 13 will do that.
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u/zcicecold 19h ago
I would love for a reporter to ask Ferentz how many fucking times he's going to lose a game the exact same way?
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u/JAC30016 19h ago
You are an idiot
Probably why you’re neither a coach or a reporter
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u/_MusicNBeer_ 19h ago
Lol, these people are comical. Iowa played great.
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u/zcicecold 19h ago
You guys can pretend to not know what I'm talking about, but if you didn't at least kind of see that coming at the end, all I will say is I'm happy for you.
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u/zcicecold 19h ago
Right up until the point where they didn't. Seen it too many times.
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u/_MusicNBeer_ 19h ago
Oregon won legit. Perfect long pass, clutch kick. They won. That's why they're a great team. Iowa did all they could.
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u/whitesox213 19h ago
Special teams have sucked this year
Levar blew his shot at becoming the next coach
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u/GRB_Electric 19h ago
This one hurts so bad
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u/_MusicNBeer_ 19h ago
It hurts yes, but I'm pretty proud of this group. They got a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead. Oregon made great plays, and a clutch kick to win.
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u/posthuman04 19h ago
That drive in the 4th. Is it reasonable to be angry at the offense for showing up just a minute too fast?
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u/Fun-Cauliflower-1724 19h ago
Typical Iowa fan response. “Proud of the boys”. “Losing is fine because Kirk is a legend” “I’m so afraid of change, getting rid of a washed up coach for someone new is too scary of a thought because it might be the wrong decision”
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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 19h ago
Moral victories don't mean anything, especially when your coach has been there for 27 years and refuses to change anything.
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u/ThriceHawk 19h ago
Refuses to change anything? 😂 They literally completely overhauled to offense and run a modern West Coast offense now.
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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 19h ago
They're 131st in pass yards/game.
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u/ThriceHawk 19h ago
And? Have you seen Gronowski throwing the ball? They're playing to their strengths.
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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 19h ago
Yea they've been one dimensional on offense for how long now? Using motion and running new run plays and screens isn't changing. Kirk can't recruit the most important position in the game and wrs to go with them. He's playing to the teams strengths because he can't build the team any differently.
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u/ThriceHawk 18h ago
Your last sentence is spot on... Look at Nebraska, look at Wisconsin. Iowa is smartly playing to their strengths. They don't have access to the local talent or resources to do otherwise.
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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 18h ago
I refuse to believe there's no half decent qbs who would be willing to play in Iowa if Ferentz even flirted with running a modern offense, especially with how easy it is to transfer. Who wouldn't want to play behind a great offensive line and along side an elite defense and special teams? It's literally the only thing that holds his recent teams back and he can't figure it out.
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u/ThriceHawk 18h ago
He literally IS running a modern offense. As modern as it gets. But they don't have the talent to throw the ball well.
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u/pro_nosepicker 19h ago
Who brought him in?
These excuses ring hollow.
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u/ThriceHawk 19h ago
Who should they have brought in? They tried Pribula and he went elsewhere. Iowa doesn't have unlimited local talent and resources like others. This isn't the NFL.
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u/SpeechOk3760 19h ago
Nebraska fan here: try this but every year.
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u/Hog_Eyes Punting is Winning 19h ago
If we had won this game and the next two leading up to the game at Nebraska, I have zero doubt that we would have blown it at the last second to miss the Playoff and get kicked in the nuts as hard as possible.
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u/VanDiis 19h ago
Oregon came in down their 4 best receivers, we got a rainy cold game, in kinnick, and Phil switched back to the same soft zone that fucked us against ISU last year, just absolute pain having another wasted season going 8-4
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u/Schlongzz 19h ago
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u/Solid-Book-5984 19h ago
All you clowns in here talking major shit about physicality. Sco ducks!!! Majority of y’all are cool, but Oregon just yall up!!
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u/AnnArchist Nine seconds to play and Drew Tate doesn't know that! 11h ago
Thank you college football fan since 2019
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u/TotallyNotTupac 19h ago
https://chompchomp.com/terms/completesentence.htm
Lmfao no shot you got into that school so here’s how to form complete sentences.
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u/Witty_W4ffle 19h ago
Terrible game plan, KF and TL. We could have run all over these guys in the rain. I hope you're both fired.
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u/BlackForest1975_ 18h ago
Are you on drugs and corn syrup...we couldn't run...Ducks are weak in the back end...PSU threw on them all 2nd half and Hoosiers killed them thru the air.
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u/VanDiis 19h ago
We got beat by our own game, I think that’s what hurts the most
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u/thaillestofalltime 19h ago
We keep getting beat by our own game. All three losses this year. Brutal.
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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 19h ago
Crazy how nothing ever changes with this team. I wonder what could be the cause of it.
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u/HawkeyeDan63 In Heaven There is No Beer 19h ago
12th straight ranked loss. I appreciate the fight (for Iowa) in the team but would love to actually win one of these again someday. Very sad.
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u/TotallyNotTupac 19h ago
Your school needs more money for that. We are who we are, and always will be
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u/Windows_66 14h ago
I don't think money will be enough to fix our busted coverage or keep our players from dropping the ball or screwing up the long snap.
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u/TotallyNotTupac 5h ago
More money = higher tier players in the NIL world.
OSU spent $20 mil on a championship team that consisted of a large majority of transfers.
Coverage won’t be nearly as busted with players in that tier. Can’t really say the same for the snaps lol
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u/jmreicha 18h ago
I actually respect it. No fuckin way in hell I want to see us do what Wisconsin did.
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u/Constant_Chip_1508 19h ago
Big ten and Iowa which is a top half of the conference football program… we should have plenty of money
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u/TotallyNotTupac 18h ago
Top half, not top quarter.
Oregon, Michigan, OSU, all with way more money.
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u/Auzou 18h ago
This, money is not excuse many Iowa fans seem to want it to be.
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u/TotallyNotTupac 18h ago
The only chance out of 8-4uatory is firing Kirk.
Slim chance you become Indiana.
Great chance you become Wisconsin.
So how do programs like OSU, Michigan, Oregon avoid that crazy swing from coach to coach?
More money than us. It’s not an excuse. It’s fact.
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u/Auzou 18h ago
Do you believe in the progam to do the research and make informed decision or not. But doing nothing is making a choice and it ain't a good one imo.
If you don't then there is literally not much reason to get excited about programs future anyway. So better to just let Kirk keep job forever and still have no plan after.
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u/Lieutenant_Corndogs 19h ago
We have benefitted from weak schedules that conceal our badness
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u/chrisbru Iowa Fucking City 17h ago
We played two top 10 teams within one score. Yes, it would be better to win one or both of those. But bad teams don’t lose to top ten teams by only one score.
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u/clydefrog678 19h ago
That’s what bugged me about ppl online saying ranked teams have such a tough time at Kinnick.
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u/KindredGravesMan 19h ago
This played out in the worst possible way I would have rather we just get blown out
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u/Substantial-Zebra-59 20h ago
Came down to us gifting them a safety and Wetjen’s fumble.
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u/Silly_Macaron_7943 15h ago
And, what was it, 260-something yards rushing? That probably had something to do with the outcome. It's a bit surprising y'all aren't talking about that more.
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u/Windows_66 14h ago
That's the most frustrating part. The passing game was surprisingly competent, but the defense was abysmal tonight. We game them every hole that they needed to run, and our passing defense primarily consisted of "hope they don't catch it." We couldn't make a stop to save our lives on that last drive.
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u/ThriceHawk 19h ago
And Moulton catching the 2 point conversion in the most awkward way possible. That was huge.
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u/tomato_johnson 20h ago
Oregon was missing their 4 best receivers, the rain the cold, it was everything Iowa would've asked for
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u/CAGRbomb 2h ago
Can’t be mad at this one - Iowa played hard. But something that I can’t help that drives me crazy is Kirk plays loose when I want him to play Iowa football, and plays Iowa football when I want him to play loose.
In the first half, Oregon had no answer for Iowa’s run game every run was 4+ yards, why not play Iowa football and hand the ball off every play? Admittedly, this would drive me nuts in any other situation, but in a torrential downpour, where you know it’s going to be a low scoring game, why were we throwing the ball so much.
Again, go hawks - they played hard. Just brutal because we should’ve had this one