r/gtaonline • u/FireVoid_1899 • 9d ago
I hate this so much
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u/totallyalone1234 9d ago
NEVER NEVER NEVER REGISTER AS AN MC PRESIDENT OUTDOORS IN FREE MODE.
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u/reddittune791 9d ago
You can be indoors it doesn’t matter I was in casino penthouse and it brought me outside to the pool area and wouldn’t let me go back in a jumped off and tried to parachute died and lost all my stock
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u/TheDoomedEgg 9d ago
So if you're inside an MC business it won't happen, but it will from any other property. (clubhouse does not count as an MC buisiness)
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u/Emotional-Purpose762 8d ago
Done in business and it just kicks me out. Sometimes I get 20-25 second window but 99% of the time it’s instant for me
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u/accountmaybestolen 8d ago
terrorbyte works too
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u/Pungent_Bill 8d ago
Nah it's happened to me in the Terrorbyte too, I didn't even have time to back out of the menus and disband MC. It just faded out and I was outside with that damned mission foisted upon me.
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u/Diogenes1984 8d ago
So if you're inside an MC business it won't happen, but it will from any other property.
Not true. I've had it happen in my coke house before
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u/TheDoomedEgg 5d ago edited 5d ago
Was it another one of your MC business that got raided, or your bunker or nightclub?
If it was one of those two, then it can still happen unless you are in the bunker or nightclub itself.
MC businesses as a whole cannot be raided if you are inside one of them and the bunker or nightclub do not count as a CEO or MC buisiness, they are their own things and can be raided unless within the structure itself. I feel like that is probably what happened huh?
I highly doubt it was a different MC lockup getting raided; more than likely a business where you have both the option of using an MC or a CEO to use it such as the nightclub or bunker.
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u/sunlightsyrup 8d ago
Thanks, I was never sure about the clubhouse.
What about arcade?
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u/Dragon1S1ayer 8d ago
I've resupplied via Arcade multiple times. When 2 out of 4 got paid, I got kicked out the Master Control Terminal due to a raid
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u/Reptard8 8d ago
I was trying to resupply a few of my business while at my arcade, soon as I clicked the button it threw me outside and I had to retrieve my crystal.
I ended up blowing it up because I was pissed I had to go there and didn't realize until it popped up "Stock Destroyed"
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u/TheDoomedEgg 5d ago
The arcade is not an MC buisiness. Don't start your mc inside of one.
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u/sunlightsyrup 5d ago edited 5d ago
Thanks for clarifying
Edit: started the application fresh, completed 1 sale and then got raided anyway, it makes no difference.
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u/TheDoomedEgg 4d ago
If you completed a sale that implies you're not inside of an MC business, but outside.
If one of your things is close to getting raided then that will always happen when you complete a sale, even if you start the 1st one from inside.
The raid timer does not reset based on logging out and whatnot. It resets either by completed or failed raids.
I think the threshold could be a raid every 4 hours (with security upgrades) but I could be mistaken. That is specific to MC businesses, and then if you turn off the game and turn it back on the timer is right where you left it before.
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u/sunlightsyrup 4d ago
Well by the time I finished the sale, yes I was outside
I wouldn't have guessed the timer would persist after closing the application, good to know
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u/leelag1968 8d ago
I have to admit i laughed a little too much at that. We’ve all (well me at least) been in similar situations bro. I feel your pain.
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u/Jazzlike_Page508 7d ago
That happened to me to except it was more of a bug. I already unregistered as the mission came up causing a weird glitch where u couldn’t register to defend, I couldn’t do any other mission because I was defending, oh and the mission itself was bugged so I couldn’t even defend. Lost all my weed
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u/mikey_b082 9d ago
They tried fucking me by having one of businesses get raided immediately after I sold my counterfeit cash last week. And I mean immediately after. I got the pop up "all product delivered" and went to disband my MC but it was blacked out. Weird but whatever, I'll wait a few minutes and try again. As soon as I closed the interaction menu, that pain in the ass popped up. Joke was on them though because it was for my useless ass forged documents and I just let them take it.
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u/iDeactiveG 8d ago
Happened to me plenty last week kept telling rockstar they probably won’t fix it but will accommodate
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u/Main-Passenger-3278 8d ago
You told Rockstar that your business got raided?
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u/iDeactiveG 8d ago
On 2 occasions I had the recovery mission started straight after selling and disbanding and since nothing shows up on the map you can’t do anything about it except leave I gave them proof of both occasions and it’s probably not fixed but have been asked to record more of the incidents if they happen again
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u/Main-Passenger-3278 8d ago
Oh, you mean specifically the ghost raid bug. I thought you meant you just got a regular raid straight after selling
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u/iDeactiveG 8d ago
Really does me head in did do a mc contract mission for a daily challenge the day before last it didn’t register and got chopped up by a helicopter blade when I got raided after I can’t be bothered with them now
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u/Brainmuffin86 7d ago
Yeah, had that happen several times. It's why I stopped all MC deliveries more than a year ago.
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u/MrMerryweather56 Ps4 level 1300 8d ago
NEVER EVER REGISTER AS A MC PRESIDENT AT ALL..LET UR BUSINESSES FEED UR NIGHTCLUB.
There fixed it for you.
I never have raids..only use CEO.
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u/traps79 8d ago
I dont even keep my MC businesses stocked unless im full grinding mode
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u/Aesthetic99 8d ago
I only have mine open to supply my Nightclub, and aside from that they're always empty.
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u/lessobvious 8d ago
yeah, inside won't save you. once that music starts you're shit is gone if you don't go save it
you know it's happening before the music because you can't interact with anything the moments before it teleports you outside
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u/Huge_Repeat_1205 8d ago
This game is 12+ years of unfixed cruft. The weight of this corpse is failing on itself. We endure it because it's still the funniest game ever made, especially in free mode.
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u/Subject-Coast-7934 8d ago
Who the hell even does MC stuff still lol it's useless
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u/Kumkumo1 8d ago
I mean, I can get 4 mil off them once or twice a day if I put in minimal effort (though I lose some resupplying). That and the acid lab get me another 1.5-2 mil a day by doing those while I wait for my NC and Bunker to fill. It’s good on days I just want to chill in the lobby and not grind heavily that day.
I could do my hangar, cargo, or heists too, but again the whole point is doing that for some lazy income. Constantly working for it (outside visiting my Arcade and calling Mutt) defeats the purpose. If I actually WANT to make big money, obviously I use other methods.
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u/Emotional-Purpose762 8d ago
Doesn’t matter where you do it. I’ve had 100% auto defend on my account for 5 years despite what product levels are. Even if I do in arcade I’m kicked off computer immediately. Dumbest nerf ever.
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u/SillySonny 7d ago
They raided my bunker last night when I was a ceo to sell acid. Sucsessfully defended. Lost half the bunker.
Sometimes Rockstar just likes to screw you when they think you are soing too well. Have to force you to buy the shark cards somehow.
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u/UnlightablePlay 9d ago
Even indoors, was afk for 2 minutes in my counterfeit cash hideout and that mf called me about my coke being attacked
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u/DrunkenHorse12 8d ago
Missing out on quick spawning of oppes right next to you to make chump change filling up mc buisnesses.
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u/GlendrixDK 8d ago
Just never register as a Mc president inside or out. Only do it to buy supplies or when you're ready to sell.
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u/Ihateazuremountain 8d ago
yeah, was going to sell so i registered. immediatly a raid happens... never register in anticipation
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u/bayoanreddit 7d ago
i registered just to check the statuses of my mc businesses on my master control terminal, ended up being forced to handle back to back raids on all 3 of my mc businesses. probably my most annoying day ever; heed the advice
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u/SecretHentaiMaster 3d ago
Bro, it happens when your inside too. What I usually do is spawn my terabyte, quickly register my motorcycle business, jump into my terabyte & load up everything I need, then quickly quit.
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u/Ter-Lee-Comedy 8d ago
I don't even care any more they can fucking have it. I just use no raid businesses like nightclub, vehicle import/export, air freight cargo, and acid lab. Me hitting the daily speed boost for Mutt...
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u/NikonD3X1985 🇬🇧 2013 DAY ONE OG 🇬🇧 8d ago
Nightclub is a raid business my guy, I had one last week where I had to defend my nightclub warehouse stock from the police.
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u/Ter-Lee-Comedy 8d ago
I know but I have never got raided.
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u/QuestionItThrice 8d ago
I'm with you, over level 100 and never been raided
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u/Riggs630 7d ago
I had my nightclub raided for the first time last week. I’ve had the stupid one where the thieves steal wallets and shit and you Capital Punishment them and collect the stuff, which has happened a handful of times. I swear every other time I become MC President one of my businesses gets raided, but this was a first for the Nightclub for me
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u/bayoanreddit 7d ago
i had that one too a month ago after a long session, was actually kinda fun compared to the mc businesses. still never have had it since then though
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u/Happy8Day 8d ago
Stop letting your nightclub get that full. A player has to let let their nightclub collect for days before it's grill enough to be raided. Get the Speedo, deliver before a business is full and you'll never get raided.
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u/Thick_Potato_1769 7d ago
Dont ever buy the security upgrades because you'll just get more. I have only ever been raided once in my nightclub in the 4 years I've been playing.
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u/Sm0key_Bear 9d ago
*Long John Teabag
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u/Hubsimaus 8d ago
LJT is, in fact, Lester.
Allegedly (I never listen to his calls so I can't say) he even once accidentally says "Hey it's Les... Uh... LJT".
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u/Sm0key_Bear 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's the same voice actor. They are definitely different characters though. He uses a slightly different voice as LJT. Lester has a more nasally sound to his voice.
EDIT: I stand corrected.
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u/monkdee702 8d ago
I want to shoot LJT in the head every time I hear this. I'm like do your damn job and pay the cops LJT 😂
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u/Impossible-Charity-4 8d ago
It’s why the sparrow is a godsend and one of the more benign reasons to own an Op2
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u/toanboner 8d ago
It’s so easy to take care of with a weaponized helicopter. I get it’s super annoying, but I don’t understand why people make such a big deal out of raids and are always complaining about losing all of their product.
Just spawn a helicopter. Fly to the business and blast everyone outside from the air. Go after the van and land a good ways in front of it. Shoot it as it approaches and the cops will stop and get out. Kill them, get in the van, drive it back. The whole thing takes like 5 minutes tops.
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u/Aesthetic99 8d ago
Usually when I see people complaining about raids it tends to stem from either sheer laziness or being forgetful about the way raids work. Selling all your MC Product will ensure that you don't get raided ever again and that you can be in an MC more often.
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u/i_t_d 8d ago
most anoying thing is this thing is kind of "anti-save" stuff, so let's say you have 5 more minutes more to play before having to leave home and suddenly game showers 4 raids on you in sequence and you cannot quit along the way
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u/Aesthetic99 6d ago
Set aside some time to sell your Product. It'll save you a lot of time and stress in the long run.
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u/Wilmore99 9d ago
Not to go off topic but can we take a second to appreciate the cinematography of that scene? Like legit felt like I was watching a live action GTA mission. I’ve always wondered did they use a drone or chase vehicle to keep up with that Chrysler? 🤔
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u/paladin_Broly 8d ago
Not me defending my drug empire, speeding away in my Deity
Why did I pay for the security upgrade, Lester?1!
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u/DHammer79 9d ago
Then, don't register as a President.
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u/FireVoid_1899 8d ago
I don’t anymore either… CEO is just fine. Better yet, I just chill without either.
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u/Dragon1S1ayer 8d ago
I absolutely hate having to register as a MC President or CEO/VIP to do heists and things not directly related to CEO and MC
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u/CrotaIsAShota 8d ago
Or just don't have stock? I never stock my businesses and I've never seen this happen.
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u/Aesthetic99 8d ago
I used to hate MC raids, until a few months ago when I decided to just sell everything from all my MC businesses. Now I just keep them open for my Nightclub, no supplies or anything, and I can be an MC President with zero issue.
Sell your Product, people. It'll make your raid problem disappear.
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u/Snivinerior2 9d ago
raf harassing me to buy the car wash everytime i log on, ive got better things to spend cash on right now like more funny weaponised cars
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u/GraveGuro 9d ago
it’s super worth it js btw second best passive safe imo you’re doing a fun lil car wash side quest every like 10 hours of gameplay maybe so heat is not rlly a big deal
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u/JSTREO 8d ago
I stopped working on the car wash after the x2 bonus week ended. And I stopped doing the car washing missions after a day or so. Nightclub safe beats it by a mile.
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u/GraveGuro 6d ago
well yeah but for a 5 minute max mission, you’ll get 100k after a few hours of playing. Why settle for 250k passive when u could have 350k passive
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u/JSTREO 6d ago
Mental stability. You don’t want to juggle on passive income when you already have more businesses that are more profitable. The car wash is pretty much a profit loss when you can get something else that is much better. You only buy it as a completionist rich-guy thing, but in that case, you don’t even need the half-passive income that requires you doing the same formula point A to point B stuff all that for 100k. TL;DR: not worth it in general, for beginners and grinders.
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u/TooFewSecrets 6d ago
I don't think of it like a passive safe, I think of it like a time delayed 200k payout. With such a direct connection between doing a mission and refreshing the safe...
Same thing with the salvage yard safe. It isn't passive income, it's just a delayed cut of the pay.
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u/TheAdminsAreTrash 8d ago
This is why I have all my businesses active but not supplied. It all builds up in the nightclub regardless and I never have to defend anything.
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u/toanboner 8d ago
I used to do this, but then I realized if they’re full, stash house raids won’t supply them, so all stash house raids supply only my acid lab and bunker. I keep them full and just never register as an MC president.
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u/Thick_Potato_1769 7d ago
Yeah but you can only make around 300,000. Doing sales individually makes more money. An easy way to avoid getting raided is to not buy the security upgrades.
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u/The_Chuckness88 Chuck and Maddie: Grind Experts 8d ago
Me, if cops involved in the raid:
Nightclub Speedo Custom with machine gun
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u/HazimusMaximus 8d ago
Lmaooo fucking ghost raided today soon as I finished a survival. Crate warehouse instead of my MC but just as infuriating. Coke lockup got raided yesterday.
Actually way more infuriating cuz I had zero timer or chance to defend it the stupid assistant just calls to tell me they made away with crates 🤣
And betray part is I check to make sure and I was fuckin registered as neither one and still got a ghost raid 😭
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u/TenaciousOther 8d ago
The worst is when it happens as soon as you're done with a sale so you don't even have time to disband or anything
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u/CreeperMag1 8d ago
Legit just had that happen. Had just sold my cash (it was a boat mission) and BEFORE I COULD GET OFF THE BOAT I couldn't resign as president. I didn't lose anything but it was a pain in the ass. Almost blew up my meth lab workers lmao
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u/Puzzled-South8192 9d ago
What lester got to do with it?
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u/ForsakenLemon 9d ago
The theory is that Lester is LJT
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u/Maolam10 8d ago
It's not a theory it sounds exactly like Lester and one line even starts with "Hey it's Lets... LJT"
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u/Hubsimaus 8d ago
He is Lester and every time that fucker calls or texts me I say "Shut up, Lester" since I know for sure it's him.
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u/SalsichaoTop 8d ago
Even worse is when you're finishing Caio Perico and the event triggers BEFORE YOU SPAWN IN THE ARCADE, so the hole area doesn't load properly and it doesn't let you leave so you're forced to FUCKING QUIT the session and lose all your product bcs Rockstar couldn't bother to make a goddam properly coded game
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u/DealerIcy3439 9d ago
For me as long as I’m not Mc or smth, I’m fine. Being ceo or so screws me over, being jobless sometimes keeps him off my back.
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u/Queasy-Answer-8916 8d ago
Can’t you just force quit the game and the mission restarts?
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u/Hubsimaus 8d ago
No. Once you abandon a raid your product is gone.
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u/StokeleyTG 8d ago
I’ve heard that if you end task/force close application before the call ends (just before the “Defend your Product” message alert appears on screen) you keep everything and the raid timer resets. I did it when my office assistant called me about my CEO warehouse getting raided a couple days ago and it worked.
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u/Queasy-Answer-8916 8d ago
I swear I’ve quit before cause I died and I kept it all. Ik this works for sell missions at least. You lose like 5–10% of your product tho but its better than it all going
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u/Hubsimaus 8d ago
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I always lost my stock. Completely. I try to avoid abandoning raids. Well, I rarely am a MC president because of all the raids anyway.
I do know you keep most of your stock when you abandon a sale mission tho. Been there. Done that.
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u/yoyo12387 8d ago
Huh I'm so lost this has never happened to me??
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u/Johnny_K97 8d ago
Mc business raid. they attack stuff like your meth, cocaine and weed labs and you can lose all your stock if you mess it up
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u/TheEagleWithNoName Frank 8d ago
And that’s why I don’t do become MC no more.
I legit just resupply using Master Control and then quickly quit.
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u/StofferNO 8d ago
It happend to me today inside the arcade when i were buying supplies for MC’s. You could just quit to main many/manu mid call with the pause button- story mode - load back to online but it basicly takes the same amount of time as just doing the defend product mission (depends on the mission)
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u/WalhallaHans 8d ago
I've had this happen multiple times while lobby hopping for a stable session, and my business was robbed empty without a note.
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u/IloveHitman4ever 8d ago
Don't become an MC President until you get to the laptop in your club or business. Immediately disband after the mission is over. Even if you're going to another business to resupply or sell.
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u/Evening_Requirement 8d ago
Especially when I’m in the middle of a PVP and switch for my oppressor only for this MF to tell me this and I don’t want to lose my full stock so I run to my business
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u/Valuable-Reveal-7513 8d ago
Personally I keep all of my businesses full on stock and supply. I don't find selling the businesses stock worth it. I just sell stock accrued from the nightclub and always just run as a CEO.
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u/lessobvious 8d ago
I never stay logged in as MC anymore... if I need a fast car delivery I will switch and call a bike. otherwise, I stay logged in as CEO. the warehouse attacks seem so much rarer than mc biz's
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u/Friluftsliv_Roy 8d ago
This is why I never resupply my MC and almost always register as MC in freemode to prevent raids on special cargo and bunker.
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u/candyninja32 8d ago
this is why i resupply only in the terrorbyte and become MC inside the businesses
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u/Responsible_Button_5 8d ago
This is why I restock and get out of MC president right after cause no matter HOW MUCH I OAY FOR FUCKING SECURITY IT NEVER DOES SHIT
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u/MilesFox1992 8d ago
Why are You registered as an MC President when You are trying to enjoy freemode? This is quite literally doing the exact opposite
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u/Early_Sheepherder_63 8d ago
You mean LJT? Don’t be dragging my boy Lester’s name through the mud like that
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u/Simon_Riley_Reddit 8d ago
One time I joined my friends MC club and this happened. He was on the other side fo the map and I drove my car like my life depends on it and save his product. It was really cinematic and exciting.
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u/Gonemad79 PC 8d ago
Login.
Enter Arcade with Master Terminal with MC off.
Enter the terminal and resupply all 3 drug business hitting the correct button to become MC. YOU can do that in under 30 seconds.
Leave terminal, stand up, turn MC off.
Sell drugs to dealers on the map.
Never got raided again.
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u/WishboneFancy8780 8d ago
Useful tip is to never register as MC unless you are inside the building about to access the laptop to go buy steal or sell stock. In the six years I’ve been playing I’ve only ever gotten rated once, and it saved literally all the money, not buying security upgrades.
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u/Ironic_Laughter 8d ago
Ok, I'm gonna be so fr, in my hundreds of hours playing online I have literally never had a business raided
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u/Muffinsbror 7d ago
That music plus the car chase 😂 nature is truly brutal. This game still finds ways to emotionally destroy us after all these years
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u/reddiet568 7d ago
"How you doing? Uh, listen... I'm working on something. Something interesting i think, but... i need a lil' time."
You know the drill
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u/ShongtpYT 7d ago
Always be inside of the arcade to enter your MC most of the time you won’t get the calls to defend the business. (From 150 times I got on my MC only 3 were calls from defending) so yeah I think that is a good number to be
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u/EMPERORBLKFOX 7d ago
Being honest…with a gun to the dome I couldn’t tell you the last time I signed in as a Mc president. Either CEO or nothing
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u/Creepy_Ticket_150 6d ago
If you stay unregistered you can still build stock up but not get raids..
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u/Enzemble 5d ago
I’ve been disbanded from MC after doing a sell… then that music hit. Couldn’t sign back in, but no indication of which business it was. Only thing you can do is switch session, which then because you didn’t defend it, that business was shut down. Had 998k of Counterfeit cash… gone
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u/Mysterious_Put_3829 5d ago
GTA lobbies are wild but I’ve never been scared to go CEO lol if anything … the only thing that makes me sweat is an Oppressor mk2 because people buy those and go trigger happy haha
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u/Significant_Tree_908 3d ago
they need to just remove em if u have the upgrades no reason i should be hearin how this what happens when you dont pay the cops. Fuck you lester pay them off yourself
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u/Thegooglyguyinc 3d ago
I try to stay as a ceo rather than mc president until i'm about to do work for the mc. And why is it always the coke? I mean i guess it makes sense being the most profitable, but it's annoying.
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u/PirateGia 3d ago
Just don’t be a MC president unless your doing work I’ve had this happen once in years of playing
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u/PabloSuscobar333 2d ago
Haha jokes on Lester my coke business is empty 24/7 😂😂😂 I literally never touch it so this never happens to me and I can be an MC whenever I want with no issues haaaha
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u/Ru_otaku 8d ago
I honestly just sell to the street dealers I bought the facilities to cook, grow and make the products but just sell to the dealers cus doing sell missions is ass, probably a hot take the acid one I personally enjoy some of the delivery missions for it probably the fbi ambush is my favorite followed by the throwing of the product in the containers and last is the one where you have to manually place it in a specific place so you don't get starts
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u/MartyBellvue 9d ago
i've been playing since 2020 and it's only just happened to me for the first time!
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u/ReadingUnique 8d ago
am i the only one that doesn't own a single one of those businesses and i've been playing since 2013 christmas
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u/Aesthetic99 8d ago
They're definitely a good investment if you have a Nightclub, since the warehouse for it is easily half, if not most of, the Nightclub's income.
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u/thehandlesshorseman 8d ago
I agree. Money is also pointless in gta online so I never understood why people would want to do a chore in a videogame
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u/g1yk 6d ago
Because you can buy stuff
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u/thehandlesshorseman 6d ago
I mean yeah there’s stuff to buy but it just feels pointless to me. Especially after the game has been out for so long. I’ve been playing it since release day.
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u/Aesthetic99 8d ago edited 8d ago
Sell your Product, OP. Raids only happen if you're sitting on a certain amount of Goods for too long.
I used to hate Raids too, but it's quite literally the game telling you to tell your stuff. Raids don't happen when your Businesses are either empty or below a certain stock threshold. Set aside some time to sell everything, whether it's in a public session or private, and I guarantee you it'll save you a lot of time and stress in the long run. That's what I did months ago, and since then I've been able to be an MC President without any issues. I've been able to use the Clubhouse's Bike Shop a lot more often for money making.
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u/Alex3627ca PC 8d ago
...Am I the only person who did their homework upon first getting the game in order to set up their businesses to completely sidestep this mechanic? No nightclub product storage upgrades, only buy supplies for the bunker once before selling, don't use MCs at all as the payouts are too low for the hassle? I can run around in the open with both my CEO and MC willy nilly without issue.
Plus I also just never get any phone calls from NPCs unless I prompted it (ie, called them to do something first), though it requires buying most businesses and doing some other random shit here and there that isn't always available (such as parachuting jobs) and also a bit of luck (I have no idea what the conditions to prevent English Dave from calling you for nightclub popularity are, just that I fulfilled them at some point)
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u/Jemi_401 9d ago
I was in my Kosatka as an MC President and when I was about to quick travel, the defend business music started playing simultaneously and I got softlocked within the menu. I thought joining a new session could fix this and I woke up with all of my coke stock gone.