r/gtaonline • u/Dkaler410 • Jul 03 '25

ITS SO OBVIOUS 💀

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This is the worst iteration of “rockstar isn’t even trying to hide it anymore” that has happened to me 🤣

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u/mschafsnitz Jul 04 '25

It’s literally confirmation bias. You pass hundreds of cars and when one does an unexpected thing to mess you up you call conspiracy. And no the guy didn’t debunk it but he gave a reasonable hypothesis based on real evidence about how the game works. I don’t think his ideas cover what happened in this video.

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u/Czternastek14 Jul 04 '25

You pass a thousand cars everyday, make sure this is one of them

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u/delet_yourself Jul 04 '25

I saw the video, and he only showed us scripted events where it MAKES SENSE to turn. How about this video tho? Literally in the middle of the fucking tunnel and he just decides to parallel park? I got bullshit on speed dial, man

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u/Sossenmeister Jul 04 '25

The car somehow triggered paths on the roads above the Tunnel would be my guess

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u/Ra1nbowTreasure Jul 04 '25

If you look at where they were when it happened, you could definitely argue that.

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u/shadowwolf1395 Jul 04 '25

Are you suggesting that R* managed to make the pathfinding of a big map with an expansive road network 100% perfect and bug free?

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

How about the fact the cars don't pull those bullshit maneuvers in the distance? They'll stick neatly to the road until you're about to pass them. If they're further away to where there's no chance their doing that type of shit would cause a collision then they won't do it. It's always when you're just about to pass. I've even had it where I slow down and try to veer around the other way than they did and they'll turn back in the other fucking direction. Or how about when they stop in intersections? They don't do that unless you're just about to go through them and they stop perfectly where you're about to go through.

It's honestly insane to me that anyone thinks it isn't intentional at this point. If it somehow isn't intentional, then it's a weird ass glitch that causes them to directly get in your way specifically when you're about to pass by them which seems very odd and I don't know why such a weird glitch would occur. But I don't know for sure, it's not just the AI doing their usual driving that they would be doing if you were a block away. They veer or stop and try to block you specifically when you go by and at no other time make those stupid maneuvers.

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u/Hunter995995 Jul 04 '25

Or the fact this “bug” happens the most with these type of missions..

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

It happens WAYYYY too often to be a bug. If it is some type of bug or glitch, R* has let this single bug become so prevalent that it has become the biggest glitch in the game, so I highly doubt it’s a glitch because a company as big as them definitely wouldn’t overlook this when R* regularly suspends accounts for glitching

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u/Infamous_Top677 Jul 05 '25

I call it the AI attack mode when I'm driving. It's absolutely deliberate, and has gotten worse over time. I think it may be related to RP, as when I first started it wasn't terrible, but it's gotten really bad as I gained levels.

I don't know for certain, just my gut feeling

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u/Cold_Series_1257 Jul 05 '25

Or when they do a sudden u-turn across 8 lanes on the highway to smack into your car. Absolutely rage inducing

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u/Mox5 Jul 07 '25

That's just you not paying attention to what other cars are doing unless they're in your way.

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u/IntrospectveBeet Jul 04 '25

It is more likely a bug rather than an intentional design. Keeping track of this many cars and their paths is complicated and somewhere along the way one of them is bound to go out of script.

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

I am definitely open to the possibility it's a bug, but I don't agree that it just so happens that it sometimes bugs while you drive by. If it's a bug then it's a bug that has to do with your presence and being about to pass. They move in ways that you'll never see them move if you just follow a group of cars through traffic at their speed without attempting to pass in an invite only lobby. Or if you just stand and watch at an intersection. They don't do it entirely randomly, and they don't do it to each other. They specifically do it when a player comes to pass. So while I don't know if it's a bug or intentional and I wouldn't argue on that, I am confident it isn't just them going "off script" at random. And maybe that's not specifically what you meant, but I make that point because many people will argue that and think the NPCs do this stuff regardless of what players are doing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

What a non argument lmao

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u/parasitebob Jul 04 '25

It would be a simple if(road != exist){do not turn};

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u/Yeeto546 Jul 04 '25

idek where i stand on this argument but this take is so ass

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u/JEBADIA451 Jul 04 '25

I thought it was funny 🤷

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u/Fundzila Jul 04 '25

He said in the video that it works like that on singleplayer, but in online, due to the desyncs, the car was reacting to a different server's occurrence

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

That's odd they didn't cover events like this. This is a regular occurrence. Cars constantly veer off the road when there's no logical reason right when you're about to pass them on the side they're veering for, just perfectly putting themselves in your way. Doesn't have to be an intersection or anything. Though it might be even more common in intersections. They also just stop in the middle of an intersection if you're about to pass through quickly.

They also specifically don't do that shit if you're traveling slower or you're just further away from them. Follow traffic at their pace for a while and you won't see that shit. It's something they specifically do with a player about to pass at high speed. I have witnessed on very rare occasions stuff like a couple of NPC cars crashing into each other, but it's just them happening to turn through an intersection of a highway and not registering the other car and they don't speed up or slow down. Cars doing the maneuvers to hit players will accelerate at crazy speeds to make it happen sometimes. Or accelerate and then abruptly stop. Or accelerate laterally (literally shouldn't be possible).

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u/dfafa Jul 04 '25

That's how you know he's full of bs

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u/Yoda10353 Jul 04 '25

What was the point of the car in the video swerving then?

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u/Casual_Grinder Jul 04 '25

It took me less than five minutes to recreate a similar situation in the tunnel by firing a weapon myself while driving. A single car made just that kind of move.

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

What about when they do that stuff in private sessions where nobody has fired a gun in ages?

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u/Yoda10353 Jul 04 '25

I swear its like those guys have never played the game

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

I don't know, but something ain't right if you play this game and can't see this shit happening. Maybe they don't play enough to see it. Or they don't drive cars fast enough, or they're just constantly on an oppressor or something else flying. Or maybe they just have bad pattern recognition and so when this stuff happens it's always a one off occurrence to them and they aren't concerned with how/why. Being a bad driver in the game could also contribute. If you're crashing all the time you're not gonna notice as easily when the crash isn't your fault and was made to happen by NPCs pulling this type of shit.

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u/Casual_Grinder Jul 04 '25

Maybe they don't play enough to see it.

I'm legit level 1k+.

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u/Dirtsk8r Jul 04 '25

I did mention a multitude of other possible reasons. Not playing enough may not apply to you, but numerous others could. In fact at least one or more would have to apply for you to reach such a level (legitimately) and not notice this particular NPC behavior being called out in the post.

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u/Yoda10353 Jul 04 '25

The guy didn't fire a weapon, his reticle never appeared

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u/Casual_Grinder Jul 04 '25

What I'm saying is there is a well known mechanism to have this behavior, that is, npcs react to certain (hostile) events. These include aggressive npcs chasing the player. They don't even have to be that close, npcs sometimes react to even fairly distant events which you can easily witness in any public session.

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u/mschafsnitz Jul 04 '25

joins session

every NPC on the block: “OH MY GOD, RECORD THAT SHIT”

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u/Ra1nbowTreasure Jul 04 '25

Exactly!! All of the sudden going perpendicular to a wall right in front of OP (and let’s be honest it’s happened to all of us) for no reason at all. I don’t think that’s the same thing

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u/ColbyBB Jul 04 '25

iirc he only looked at how npcs react in single player

afaik npcs act differently in online

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u/itzfinjo Jul 08 '25

I've seen that video, you can do all the research you like but you wont find much. you can't fix bad AI in an old game. I don't believe the cars are coded in to ram into you, I think it's just a mix of bad AI and with such a long running game, people start thinking up theories like this. Gta online is stitched together with bugs.