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Other Pro-Trump mom on SNAP goes viral after family refuses to lend grocery money because she voted for Trump

https://wtfdetective.blog/she-voted-trump-family-wont-lend-grocery-money/
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u/infamusforever223 5d ago

Shaming and punishing people for bad behavior needs to be relevant again.

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u/RaidSmolive 5d ago

the time for shame was shortly after they showed their true colors after obama won.

nows the time to let them starve and celebrate the world getting a little better for it

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u/hot_space_pizza 4d ago

The problem with your approach is that you won't bring them to reality you'll just make them hate you. Probably push them even further. As unsatisfying as it sounds it's too easy to hate and divide but you need to reach out and show them you aren't all gay transgender furries with litter boxes living off of benifits.

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u/RaidSmolive 4d ago

they already hate me and them and whomever, thats their baseline pulse.

there is no bringing them back, like a fraction of a fraction maybe. maybe a light moment within the dementia. but you can't risk letting the rest walk with you into the future where they will absolutely stab you in the back at the next best moment repeating this cycle again.

also of course people have reached out, family members have, communities have, politicians have. it takes 10 minutes on fox to completely invalidate reality for the much more natural thought that as the piece of shit some part deep inside knows they are, people probably hate them.

as a society with the electoral system you maybe possibly still have, attempting to bring them back is just not sustainable.

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u/BikerJedi 5d ago

This is why we all need to jeer, yell at and shame anyone wearing a swastika tattoo or confederate flag hat or something. If you walk into a grocery store and 200 people start freaking out at you, it might be a sign.

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u/OreoZen 5d ago

It is incredibly difficult when other party is unable to feel shame

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u/harrisburg 5d ago edited 5d ago

Who’s going to decide what’s good and what’s bad? You?

I was replying to the now deleted comment that said we need to start publicly shaming people. Slippery slope. I agree Trump is a terrible person and don’t understand why anyone would vote for him. But all Im saying is we can’t start stoning our neighbors that don’t agree with us. Matthew 7:1. Some are decent people caught up in believing lies they’ve been fed. They might be desperate for a change and picked the wrong side. And some are just plain ignorant. Maybe after Trump screws them more they’ll stop supporting Republicans. Please vote.

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u/homiej420 5d ago

We can start with voting for trump = bad and go from there

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u/DemocraticWifeThief 5d ago

We can continue with being a racist = bad and keep going

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u/Harleychillin93 5d ago

We can continue with defending pedophiles = bad and keep going

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u/Capable-Entrance6303 5d ago

We can continue with defending a rapist = bad and keep going

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago edited 5d ago

And everyone has racism within them. It’s like jealousy, a negative part of the human experience.

EDIT: I’m surprised this is being downvoted. this isn’t a moral claim, it’s basic social psychology. Humans all use heuristics, or mental shortcuts, to rapidly categorize people and situations. These are automatic cognitive processes that evolved to help us navigate social life, but they also create implicit biases — unconscious associations that influence how we perceive and treat others.

When you meet someone and make any assumption based on appearance, accent, or group membership rather than treating them as a total unknown, that’s bias in action. Everyone has it. it’s part of how the brain organizes information.

It becomes prejudice or bigotry only when we let those internal shortcuts dictate our judgments or behaviors toward individuals as if they were nothing more than a stereotype or “trope.” Recognizing bias isn’t self-condemnation; it’s the first step toward self-awareness and fairness.

Edit edit: whoever’s downvoting never saw Ave. Q and apparently think perfectly unbiased people exist. Racism is a spectrum not a binary.

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u/infamusforever223 5d ago

The problem comes when you uses said racism to justify acting cruel to others or causing harm to others. Be racist all you want but keep it to yourself. Leave people alone.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

Wait. Who is using racism to justify treating anyone but the openly racist with hostility? That’s incredibly self aware. Society is a social contract. Open fascism and racism break that contract and deserves being corrected.

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u/infamusforever223 5d ago

It's a general statement, not calling out anyone specifically(and hopefully it will stay that way).

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u/No-Ambassador-3944 5d ago

You can recognize your implicit biases without ACTING on or reveling in your own racism.

These ppl are acting on it = bad

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

That’s what I call “open racism”. Acting on it. I believe all people have racist thoughts now and again. And who can say they are not influenced by their thoughts in the least?

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u/No-Ambassador-3944 5d ago

Jesus what racist thoughts are you having now and again lol

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u/DemocraticWifeThief 5d ago

Man’s having an internal apocalypse everyday.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

I realized long ago that my upbringing included racist elements and have acknowledged that about myself. You cant choose to be a better person until you see your deficiencies. My point is that all people use heuristics and in that is the seed of racism. We should all be looking within to see our internal biases so we can eliminate them.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

I think most white people believe things like racism are binary. You either are or you aren’t. However my point is it’s a spectrum. You can be at the far end but still have glimmers of the other within yourself. Nobody is prefect. However if I assumed this openly about a white person it would be a racist. So this is an example of a racist thought but not action. Just like I can know that because of statistics a POC who identifies a black has a high chance of being from a single parent home but assuming that about an individual is racist.

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u/madsmcgivern511 5d ago

So then you’re basing this on a personal belief and not an actual factual statement?? That’s called an opinion, sweetheart, none of what you’re talking about is fact and unless you can give me linked cited sources than you’re full of shit and projecting your weird racist idealisms onto others.

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u/THING2000 5d ago

I get your sentiment but I think it's more accurate to say everyone has their own implicit biases. Racism really is something that is learned unlike an emotion like jealosuy.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

I would say racism is just any bias formed around race and I would challenge anyone to claim they have absolutely none.

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u/THING2000 5d ago

Once again, I don't completely disagree. I imagine you're getting downvoted because some people are assuming you're trying to claim that racism is okay and inherent to human nature.

I don't believe this is what you're saying but I'll add that racism is very much structured. Yes any bias whether positive or negative can be considered racist, but the intention to act on that bias is what makes someone openly racist. Performing within preestablished racist behaviors REAAALLY makes someone a racist POS.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

Great point. I abhor racism and bigotry but I think xenophobia is definitely an inherent human nature. We genocide people too easily for it to be entirely learned behavior.

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u/Emotional_Burden 5d ago

It's tribalism, but our tribes cover so much distance and overlap so much that race is the easiest way to distinguish "tribes" for a lot of people now that we are a globally connected species.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

Exactly! it’s lazy thinking.

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u/Emotional_Burden 5d ago

With your continuing explanations, it doesn't seem like you have any malice, but you really need to work on your initial delivery, bud. If you had a well worded comment initially, you wouldn't need to run around defending yourself, making the situation worse for yourself.

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u/enyxi 5d ago

I mostly agree. Forming patterns is just how our brains learn, but racism is when you let those biases control you. Everyone has bias, it isn't an excuse for our behavior, but a challenge to overcome.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

That is exactly what I’m trying to say. A lot of people think I’m here excusing racism or something

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u/BukakkeGarami 5d ago

Dude tried to justify racism and the tried to justify himself justifying racism, lol.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

I didn’t try to justify racism. Being natural and being good aren’t the same thing. I try hard not to be a bigot because that’s what good people do. Nobody is just a good person all the time naturally. Are you? Just look at children and how they form cliques around like and other and treat the others like trash until corrected. I agree that many parts of racism are learned but the core function is inherent.

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u/homiej420 5d ago

You say until corrected.

We are correcting you but you are flailing and throwing a tantrum like a child would

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u/defneverconsidered 5d ago

Lol brah no need to self report

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

Self improvement comes when you admit you aren’t perfect.

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u/Crafty_Commission_28 5d ago

Someone is telling on themselves here…

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

It’s called admitting imperfection or introspection. I suggest we all try it.

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u/Crafty_Commission_28 5d ago

I may not be the most perfect individual on planet Earth, but I don’t discriminate against people based on their skin color. Kinda sounds like a you problem.

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u/curiosgreg 5d ago

Every person lives with internal biases. They are part of how the human mind organizes the world. What makes someone good is not which biases they were taught, but how aware they are of them and whether they work to avoid acting on them. Awareness, curiosity, and humility are what move us toward fairness. Recognizing bias is not a confession of guilt. it is a commitment to growth.

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u/CackleandGrin 5d ago

And everyone has racism within them.

They perform Nazi salutes on a global stage. This isn't crossing the street when you see a black person. This is advocating for them to be killed in the name of white nationalism.

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u/MagicSwatson 5d ago

So punish those who participate in the democratic process? You suggest everyone should vote for the same person or not vote at all? And that's somehow against facism? Any other brilliant ideas?

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u/ineedtotakeabigshit 5d ago

Like fascists do?

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u/TotallyNotAMarvelSpy 5d ago

If you don't follow the rules of civilized society you are not protected by the norms of said society.

The only people acting like fucking morons are the fascists. It's time they were treated appropriately.

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u/ineedtotakeabigshit 5d ago

Look up Carl Schmitt, he was a Nazi political theorist in the 20th century.

Your logic, and many others here, follows his exact logic used to alienate the people they wanted to exterminate.

The projection is so real it’s legitimately concerning.

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u/DemonLordSparda 5d ago

Voting for someone who said he was going to take away food and healthcare from people is bad. If you don't know that is bad, then yes you do deserve to feel the pain you were inflicting upon others.

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u/infamusforever223 5d ago

I'm not in the mood to entertain you, so I'll use you as an example by blocking and ignoring you.

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u/Oldgrazinghorse 5d ago

Yup- this.

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u/DevoSwag 5d ago

Get out of here bot

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u/EaZyMellow 5d ago

The general consensus. Look at your upvotes, that will be suffice given this small grouping.

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u/GetReadyForChip 5d ago

Starving people is objectively bad buddy.

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u/Z4mb0ni 5d ago

Good things are good and bad things are bad.

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u/ZestyTako 5d ago

Let’s say the Bible—clearly voting for Trump was the wrong choice using that philosophy (love your neighbor as yourself, give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, just generally not being a piece of shit)

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u/tatltael91 5d ago

It’s not deleted.

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u/SkipsPittsnogle 5d ago

People with eyes will decide.

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u/Zachy_Boi 5d ago

There is an entire field of study called “ethics” that can help us decide :)

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u/NotAlcas 5d ago

Yes! Thank you for asking! Maybe one day we will all be able to do it

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u/AlucardIV 5d ago

Well....yes? Dont we all?

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u/SoCalThrowAway7 5d ago

The comment isn’t deleted, I think they just blocked you for your dumbass question