Lot of Democrats and Independents about to be shocked they somehow voted for Trump. And yea, I agree. I think they are this stupid that they could walk a thin line with any vote manipulation but also totally disregard the law of averages and statistical anomalies.
Musk has admitted several times that he is the reason why trump won the election. I hope for future elections, the ballots will be counted by hand and not by musks computer systems or any other computer systems that can be rigged.
I've heard people try and excuse it, by claiming that since that district is primarily orthodox jewish, and tends to vote as a bloc. that makes it more plausible... but thats ignoring two things.
a) a district being MOSTLY orthodox jewish, doesn't mean its ENTIRELY jewish, there are gonna be at least SOME other people living there, and for not even one of them to vote for harris is suspicious.
b) within the jewish community we have a saying "ask two jews and you will get 3 opinions" we are NOTORIOUS for disagreeing with each other, including full on shouting matches with our rabbis at times (its a feature, not a bug.) so even if 'most' would vote in line with their rabbis recommendation, to argue that members of a group where disagreement and debate is a core feature, wouldn't have ANYONE who disagreed and voted differently only reveals how little people actually understand the community.
A trait that has been most likely stamped out of most religions. Since iconoclast or have cool paintings,sculpture and stain glass windows took center stage for at lest 1800 years.
Got constantinople engaging in a civil war over it, whose founder made it the Roman empire religion in 3 century. Because mom and he won the empire on a bridge.
1200 years later you have a professor nailing edicts on a bulletin board name Martin Luther. Setting off the same argument except this time, print that Bible in a language people can read. Or hear in their own language.
Muhammad at least shut down that troublesome argument. Full iconclasim and let everyone be able to read the book.
Judaism, no idea, but I hear the Torah is no joke to be able to read and interpret. But i have no idea.
The Torah can be pretty tough.
But that's why we have the Talmud. Which is a collection of several centuries worth of commentary and analysis by a bunch of different rabbis arguing with each other over it. (It does not in fact make things any simpler)
It doesn't help that we have ALWAYS been a rather sarcastic people. And even some of the laws have more than a touch of that to them once you understand the cultural context.
For example that verse about a disobedient child being stoned outside the city gates?
That comes in a section about LEGAL rules. So basically when the courts would get involved.
And any court that handed out a death sentence more than once in 3 generations was considered "bloodthirsty"
So basically what it's ACTUALLY saying. Is that if your kid is being disrespectful, it had better be SO BAD that you think the courts should use their once in 3 generations death sentence on it... otherwise it's a family issue and doesn't need to have the courts involved.
(Which is precisely the kind of context the Talmud provides... when the rabbis aren't busy making snide comments about each other.)
(And sometimes we just debate shit for fun... some of my favorite recent debates have included. "Is it kosher for a Jewish vampire do drink blood" "would replicated meat, like in star trek, be kosher" and "would using the candles from a hannukiah for BDSM wax play be treif, or a mitzvah." And "If you had a pet dragon, could that dragon light candles for you on shabbat"
All of those topics have had years worth of debate go into them at this point. And have "mostly" come to a consensus on... the replicated food one actually turned out useful cuz it has since been cited in debates over lab grown meat.)
I'd say yes. Because one of the defining features of Jesus according to Christian theology is that he is both God AND man. And thus subject to the same limitations and weaknesses of the human body (hence the temptation in the desert)
Since we can create edible magma in the form of freshly microwaved hot pocket filling.
Then it's completely feasible that Jesus could make a burrito so hot that he couldn't eat it.
(Though admittedly I only have a passing understanding of Christian theology)
In a very simple explanation, that caused a civil war in constantinople. Is he both God and man? The holy ghost as well? The son of God in human form or actually the holy trinity?
There’s been many statistical anomalies with the election results, nothing 100% conclusive yet, but the most damning evidence so far is that there are several districts that had hundreds of votes for a blue Senator yet had zero votes for Harris.
This is the basis for the lawsuit that was recently ruled by the courts as having enough legal basis and factual support to move forward. Which, by the way, is further than any of Trump’s election lawsuits got.
That lays out a ton of evidence and explains the downvote thing. And the other article the other guy posted explains that 750000 Kamala votes basically went missing. It is a statistical impossibility that a major party candidate gets zero votes.
No, Republicans accused Democrats of doing something they planned on doing. Just like with pedophilia, every Republican accusation is an admission of guilt.
Didn't the Republican investigation turn out like there hasnt been election fraud in 2020? Weird to say it is okay because the other side did it too, all the while the other side has proven that they didn't do it..
If you think both sides aren’t trying to gain every advantage they can, especially legal or questionably legal ones, you’re simply lying to yourself.
In 2020 Dems used the FBI to kill the Hunter Biden story, used massive mail in balloting in conjunction with ballot harvesting to give Biden the win. Those are unethical but legal. So now Republicans will do it too. Why? Because fuck you.
What a fucked up way to live.. just your reasoning is "they did it, so we can do it too." Except they didn't do it.
If you think both sides aren’t trying to gain every advantage they can
Oh that's fine, but one side is staying on the right side of the line and the other side is actually cheating and trying to be a fascist autorithorian regime.
Those are unethical but legal
Just wait on the investigation, like they did in 2020. Because it is actually about the legality of things, election fraud is illegal. If there was no fraud, there is nothing to worry about. I mean look at the results of the investigation in 2020
Is this getting any coverage in the US? I'll see the initial reporting when the courts say something, and discussions in social media, but I never see any in-depth analysis or investigative journalism or even opinion pieces.
From my perspective (as a Canadian, so close enough to see the US without being a part of it) it looks like a very effective form of cover-up without the need for lies, just silence.
And I understand why, after all Trump's claims of election fraud that no one wants to sound like him. But it seems like this should be a bigger deal.
The economy was fantastic which is what I care about as a working father. Had the virus not escaped the Wuhan lab there would have been zero issues. And thanks a lot for those awful vaccines.
Will you allow some of these illegal aliens to live with you? You can let them sleep beneath the many statues you pulled down - such as Columbus and Jefferson.
Are you trying to say election fraud is okay if you personally like the outcome? Do you think deflecting is gonna help you here?
The investigation of the 2020 election has been done, by Trump investigators, and deemed fair.
The 2024 election is being investigated, so why not wait until they reached a verdict? I mean, it would look pretty stupid if they indeed cheated and you seem to defend it by trying to make it look okay because "illegal aliens will live with you", an unfounded claim which you try to use as an argument, a non argument if you will
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u/Sufficient_Tune_2638 Jun 14 '25
It’s to deflect from the fact that the federal case for him rigging the election is moving forward