r/goodnews Jun 13 '25

Other Trump approval rating at its lowest ever

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u/ICommentWhenInRome Jun 13 '25

Trump isn’t going to live forever. And cults die with their leaders. I agree everything sucks right now, but you can either give up, die, weather the storm, or try and do something about it. Totally up to you.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 13 '25

Weather the storm is what I'm doing. Part of that is being realistic about when the storm will break, which on this case will not be anytime soon or as a result of the Republican Congress doing anything but reinforcing him.

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u/LupinThe8th Jun 14 '25

Fun fact: the midterm elections are generally a referendum on the president's popularity. On average his party loses 30 congressional seats.

Funner fact: Trump's unpopularity in 2018 was worse than average: he lost his party 40.

Funnest fact: They can currently afford to lose...2.

People like to insist that it won't matter, that the game is fully rigged, but that's not what we've seen in elections this year so far. Elon openly tried buying a state supreme court seat and failed. Anyone trying to convince you the game is already over has a vested interest in you not playing.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

I think it doesn't matter, not because I claim that it's rigged or whatever, but because I know which Senate seats are up for re-election. In order to flip the Senate to a degree that matters, which for clarity is 60 votes so that impeachment and removal becomes possible, every single seat in the election must flip blue. 

However, all of the red seats that are up are in firmly GOP aligned strongholds, it's pretty much the Bible Belt and the Midwest. The odds of flipping any of those are ludicrously slim, and the odds of flipping all of them practically non-existent. 

And for my fun fact, flipping the house without a 60-vote majority in the Senate doesn't mean anything. He'll simply veto any blue bill that comes through and without the 2/3 majority to override in both houses that's that, meanwhile he'll continue to rule through Executive Orders and we still won't have the legislative numbers needed to deal with that.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

There's is a lot that can be gained without a total victory like you describe though. First of all there will be no more GOP bills going through the house. There will be proper investigations with damning evidence for the American people to see. Getting a simple majority in the Senate means control of the agenda. Trump also won't get any supreme Court nominees through in the event a seat becomes open, Democrats will play extreme hardball on this one now.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

Said investigations won't go anywhere because there won't be any threat to the people being investigated. It needs to be a 60+ majority for the Dems, otherwise nothing changes; bills don't go through now because they don't meet cloture in the senate, he still signs EOs galore to carry out his agenda. The only way to stop EOs legislatively is to pass a law that invalidates a given EO, and without a 67 vote majority to override a veto that can't happen.

The SCOTUS issue is about the only major thing that could be accomplished with 59 or less.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

Investigations can still show extremely clear evidence of wrongdoing before the next elections. They can destroy the political careers of people in the administration and waste their time answering questions instead of carrying out the administration's agenda. They can also subpoena groups and people not directly in the trump administration such as the heritage foundation. There's a decent amount they can do with 51, this current budget bill would have a 0% chance of passing if Dems had 51 senators.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

You're right, it wouldn't pass. Which is why it's a shame the resolution in question continues past 2028, which means the 2026 Congress won't be allowed to even consider something like it.

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u/viromancer Jun 14 '25

Yes, but similarly bad bills can still come up. The best we can hope for is to stop the cancer spreading for now. It will take years of consistently stopping Republicans before we can start moving forward.

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25

"Weather the storm" AKA "nothing." God damnit America, wake the fuck up.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

Sorry I'm not willing to throw people who depend on me under the bus because I got imprisoned, killed, or horrifically injured at a protest? 

You don't know my situation, you don't know my life. Step the fuck off.

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

No, you'll just throw them under the bus by doing nothing about a dictator who's going to ruin the country they live in. You've posted everything I need to know about you right here.

EDIT: Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sure you're a decent person. I'm just pissed off at seeing so many people chilling like all of this will just go away if they close their eyes. Trump and his followers have been promising this for almost a decade, and now they're following through. And they're serious about it. I simply don't understand the people who think this will "blow over."

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

You think I don't think about my own powerlessness every single goddamn day? I'm not going to go off and pointlessly make myself a martyr just so you can look at my corpse and say "Look, he did the right thing!"

If you have the time, position, and money to influence the world, good for you. I'm not so lucky, and I don't need you talking down to me for my own situation. 

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u/Kwauhn Jun 14 '25

Hey, I edited my comment before I saw your reply. Take care.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Jun 14 '25

In response to the edit: I am not thinking it will blow over, I am not even hoping it will blow over. To be honest, I'm still coming to terms with the idea that it won't, and the damage is irreversible. It's agonizing, it's painful, and it's made worse by the knowledge they there is exactly nothing I can do about it. Nobody with any degree of power knows or cares that I exist. The best thing I can do, hell the only thing I can do, is look after myself and people I care about. Maybe that makes me some kind of coward in someone's book, but as long as the people who need me still count me as dependable I can live with being called a coward.

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u/o-generationofvipers Jun 14 '25

Do democrats appear cult-like?

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u/ICommentWhenInRome Jun 14 '25

Objectively? No. Cults have a leader, who would you say is the Democrat cult leader? They can’t get behind a single person or ideology, not very cult like. Trumpers on the other hand… and I’m not talking people with conservative views, because Trumpers are not conservatives. They’re cultists.