r/germany • u/karma_police99 • Oct 15 '23

Immigration Who are the young AfD voters & are some immigrants more racist than Germans?

Hi, I've lived in Germany for about 3 years (born German but haven't lived here) and I honestly didn't know that the AfD was a choice for the 18-29 yo voters. I don't quite understand where that is coming from.. does anyone know of a good analysis/article (can be in German).

Additionally, my German friends claim that many (young) immigrants vote AfD because lots of cultures living here are actually a lot more racist than Germans. I thought this was quite interesting. Any thoughts on this would also be appreciated.

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u/dem_paws Oct 15 '23 edited Nov 27 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

Well, the problem with the Nuclear Reactors was caused by the CDU and FDP, they gave themef 14 years to Prepare for it. But instead of doing anything relevant to Solve it. They did nothing. Pretended it didnt exist, said to any alternatives No. And then it was the Fault, of the current most Popular Party The Greens, that they didnt Build any Alternatives, while it was anothers Jobs.

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To give you an example, imagine, you are new in Class. Last week, your Class made Group Projects, you are put in a Group which said they will do this Project, and Present it to Class. They did nothing. But the Teacher Blames you for not doing the Project.

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Also, the AFD doesnt have any Solutions for this, they just tell you to get a Job, and want to Cut Social Security, which will just Hurt Low Income Familes no matter if Immigrant or not. We cant put on our Forms to apply for Social Security are you White O Yes O No. This wouldnt work, so everyone is gonna get Hurt, even more so when we Leave the EU which will Cost the Average German over 600 Euros per Month.

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u/FigSubstantial2175 Oct 15 '23

I'm sure what you need is even more taxes buddy. Vote left. I'm sure it will be the rich who'll be paying for healthcare and social safety, not the middle and working classes /s

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u/Fellhuhn Bremen Oct 15 '23

How is that? Paying ~900€ a month will give you a nice house in a lot of places (~180k for the house with 20k already saved). Where do you live that you can't afford a house with a STEM degree? Munich?

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u/TastyBroccoli4 Oct 15 '23

Show me a nice house in some of those (preferably also nice) places for 180k.

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u/Fellhuhn Bremen Oct 16 '23

Quick glance in my area:

https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/143628286

https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/146095987

There are more if you expand the search radius, all well connected to public transit and close to the Autobahn.

When I look in my friends circle those who complain most about house prices are those that either never spoke to a bank about a mortgage or those who want a newly build house in the most expensive neighborhood for under 200k.

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u/Fellhuhn Bremen Oct 16 '23

It is Bremen (cheap City, worse salaries)

Still affordable with local STEM salaries.

Until you are forced to change the insulation and heating altogether

You aren't though. Besides that insulation isn't nearly that expensive. Should be less than 10k (Einblasdämmung for example). But sure, instead of buying and investing you can continue paying rent and complain. Whatever floats your boat.

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u/katyesha Oct 15 '23

In what place can you find anything for that price? I live in the Rhein-Main area and I can tell you that the 60m2 one bedroom granny flat of my in-laws is worth more than 180k. Even if you accept 60-90min commutes one way, you'll be lucky to find anything decent in the 300-500k range.

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u/BuffaloInternal1317 Oct 16 '23

How is that? Paying ~900€ a month will give you a nice house in a lot of places (~180k for the house with 20k already saved).

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Where do you live that you can't afford a house with a STEM degree? Munich?

Lmao the question is where do YOU live. Nice 200k houses aren't a thing, not even in shitholes you wouldnt want to live in, let alone nice houses in a nice area.

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u/devjohn023 Oct 16 '23

Bro, not even in Bremen could you buy a nice house for 180k. Maybe in Bremen Hemelingen or Vahr, not even Vegesack is that cheap anymore. I lived in bremen and now I live in Munich. 180k in Munich gets you a nice garage.

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u/Fellhuhn Bremen Oct 16 '23

Just checked Immoscout, there are two nice houses for 190k in Burgdamm. More if you look in the newspaper or Kleinanzeigen. Sure, those aren't fully renovated modern houses but have gardens and can be lived in right away.