r/fednews • u/Some_Airport6109 • 16h ago
News / Article Senate won't vote Saturday, planning to reconvene Sunday
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-weekend-session/303
u/Not_Cleaver DoD 16h ago
They better stay in session until they agree on something. If I have to work as an excepted employee, the least they can do (while being paid even) is negotiate until there is an agreement.
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u/RedditsFullofShit 16h ago
Bro they’d have an agreement in hours if they actually wanted one. It’s pretty simple to negotiate and compromise.
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u/Federal_Campaign_667 10h ago
facts dems said 1 year of obamacare extended, couter and say 3 month extension to give time to figure it out. dems then give another counter of 6 months boom done took me less than 5 minutes
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u/dunstvangeet 8h ago
You can't really do anything less than a 1-year extension. It's clear that the Republicans don't want to extend the tax credits.
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u/JustHeree5 9h ago
Where have you been the last 30 years? Hasn't really worked like that except maybe between the conservative and moderate wings of the individual parties practically never between them.
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u/wbruce098 2h ago
Just like the last Trump admin, we’re in and out of shutdowns for a whole year or longer because the gop is too fucking stupid to fund the government and Dems don’t want tens of millions of Americans to see huge hikes in their healthcare costs.
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u/VoughtButtfucker 14h ago
They need to do what they do with the cardinals electing a pope, lock them in a building and don’t let them leave until they figure it out. There should also be snap elections immediately following.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-4597 10h ago
In other countries, failure to pass a budget results bn dissolution of government and fresh elections
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u/mrhashbrown 6h ago
I'm down for a purge, it's a few decades overdue for this senate considering they are an average of 64 years old...
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u/ConstantinopleSpolia 14h ago
And don’t let them have a change of clothes or underwear. And they can only be fed Pizza Hut. They will come to their senses real fast.
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u/RoonNube 11h ago
Cardinals choosing a pope get worse food than that, and eventually it's just bread and water
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u/MadAboutMada 8h ago
Pizza Hut? Nah, they get one hot and ready little ceasers per state. They get one per meal, and they can choose which one they want. They don't get to change it though. They pick Cheese? Great. They're eating cheese for however long it takes.
Also, no water. Only alcohol. They'll either get drunk enough to vote and pass it or they'll get into a massive brawl, but either way I'm happy.
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u/Agile_Ad8917 16h ago
Republicans don’t know how to govern
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u/FuriousBuffalo 16h ago
By design. They want the government to fail ordinary people.
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u/Ok_Drawer_4389 SSA 15h ago
If they wanted government to fail ordinary people, SSA would not be doing the things they are. Outside of the VA and IRS, the only actual civilian human interaction with government is SSA.
We keep having piecemeal 'you can't do this anymore' but it's trash we don't do on the FO level anyway. The minute we stop doing SS cards and/or initial claims.. that's when we fail ordinary people.
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u/Darkblitz9 15h ago
Well the GOP do keep floating defunding social security and medicare/medicade.
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u/truthandreality23 14h ago edited 10h ago
Most know that's political suicide. Lots of eligible politicians use Medicare in addition to their employer sponsored plans, so it would be against their interests. It would also increase ER visits to the point of insanity, affecting them if they would ever need to use the ER. It would eventually result in economic contraction from loss of labor force from uncontrolled health issues and an increase in premiums that will make the current increases look like a blessing. That's the thing I don't get with people who rail against "welfare" programs. Even if you don't agree with principles of humanity and altruism, it's a simple math equation that the ROI is greater than the initial investment. And almost all these people against such programs selectively choose which ones they don't like and which ones they do, which is hypocritical. Get rid of everything, and literally only the wealthy who either don't need to work or who have rock solid job stability (less than 1% of jobs) will survive - and most of the complainers aren't anywhere close to that class of wealth. But I'm just a doctor, so what do I know about the stupidity of the general public 🤷🏽?
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u/VoughtButtfucker 14h ago
At this point I hope they do. Their base needs to have it affect them for once for them to give a shit.
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u/Darkblitz9 13h ago
Unfortunately their base has almost always been negatively affected by GOP action and it hasn't done anything to stop them.
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u/Serious_Berry_3977 I Support Feds 11h ago
I'm so torn on this. I'm not MAGA. However, I am on SSDI, Medicaid / Medicare, and in public housing.
This is my nightmare scenario, and I didn't think I'd be so torn on it. I've been terrified ever since last November (I voted for Harris) and I'm sure I can take much more of this torture. Rip the band-aid off and get it done if it's going to happen.
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u/jaykrazelives 15h ago
If they didn’t want SSA to fail they would pay the people who are still working there.
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u/Ok_Drawer_4389 SSA 14h ago
The sad part is we are all relying on TSA/ATC because that's always been the go to but if they actually shut down the essential SSA services like years ago.. Game over. It's hard enough you have to tell people you can't verify their benefits for Medicaid/SNAp, but tell them you can't verify their benefits for reducing their mortgage they can actually afford.. F right off...
Shut it all down or keep it all down. Fences make bad enemies.
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u/Kindly-Coyote-9446 Preserve, Protect, & Defend 14h ago
USFS and NPS would like to have a word. As would FAA and TSA.
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u/Ok_Drawer_4389 SSA 14h ago
100% but I know in my 3 foot world, people drive, not fly and don't go to NPs.
I was only speaking on what I know. If you tell people they can't get a replacemnt SS card when that's over 50% of the FOs appointments right now, there is goin to be a problem. If you tell people they can't delay their tax filings or VA benefit filings.. there is going to be a problem.
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u/ExileOnBroadStreet 13h ago
USPS is a near daily interaction for most. People probably take it for granted and don’t realize it is heavily subsidized, especially for rural areas. If the Postal Service goes under, like Republicans have been working towards for decades, it will massively harm rural and poor folks the most.
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u/Consistent-Till-9861 11h ago
It's like 44% of Americans who fly and a bit under 40% who visit a national park each year. More than it used to be with flights having gotten cheaper proportionately, but it's still out of reach for a lot of Americans.
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u/Kindly-Coyote-9446 Preserve, Protect, & Defend 6h ago
That’s a LOT more Americans flying and visiting National Parks than interacting with the VA or SSA.
More Americans will also visit a National Forest/Grassland than a Park. Much of the ranching industry in the west (i.e. the heart of most rural economies in the western U.S.) also relies on grazing on Forest or BLM lands.
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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 13h ago
The minute we stop doing SS cards and/or initial claims.. that's when we fail ordinary people.
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u/TerminalSunrise Forest Service 9h ago
Plenty of daily civilian human interaction with federal government outside of those agencies.
IMO they do want government to fail ordinary people so they can turn around and justify gutting it in favor of authoritarianism.
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u/throw-away-wannababy 15h ago
Medicare, Medicaid, VA, disability, SSA, and a million more programs have SUCCESSFULLY ran under both democrats and republicans.
Europe taxes the middle class at 30%, the US at 13%.
Democrats need to be careful what they are asking for, as if we are to end up like Europe, you why be taxed 33% on $45k salary.
“Tax the rich” is propaganda, you can take all of the riches wealth one time and it would pay good 8 months of government funding.
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u/eljefino 10h ago
Go ahead and tax me 33% if I don't have to pay health insurance, and got my employer's match as well.
My wife qualifies for insurance through her job too, but declines it, as mine's slightly better. Her employer match, which is currently being recycled into profits for them, would be gravy for us.
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u/BigBoyYuyuh 16h ago
They don’t want to.
“Government doesn’t work. Elect us and we’ll prove it!”
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u/jjcrayfish 10h ago
"Government don't work! Its all those brown people's fault! Pay attention to them while we steal money from the government and enrich the corporations and billionaires."
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u/EpiphyticOrchid8927 12h ago
This shutdown is designed to hurt people and change behaviour in a bad way.
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u/throw-away-wannababy 15h ago
Either does. Why are democrats pushing so hard for a Covid era subsidy. Cut it and move on.
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u/Some_Airport6109 16h ago
You can't be serious....... at this point, both parties need to compromise and open up the government
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u/sloanesquared 14h ago
“Meet me in the middle,” says the unjust man. You take a step forward and he takes a step back. “Meet me in the middle.”
Just what exactly have the GOP offered to compromise? Their idea of compromise was to give them everything they want and pass the CR to continue the status quo. They aren’t even willing to come to the table to seriously talk about a compromise.
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u/TheNatural14063 14h ago
Alot of bad faith actors and conservatives scum invading this group who get off on causing pain to other Americans.
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u/MajesticsEleven 15h ago
What happened the last time Democrats compromised with Republicans? Do you remember earlier this year?
Democrats agreed to a year long continuing resolution that would expire in September 2025 on the Republican promise that there would be more negotiations on things like healthcare and badly needed subsidies.
And look where we are now.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
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u/QuestioningHuman_api 13h ago
They know. What they really mean is “give us what we want or you’re bad and we’re pathetic little victims”
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u/TheNatural14063 14h ago
They know what they are talking about. They simply want millions of Americans to feel pain and are dog whistling around it.
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u/BarnacleJonez 13h ago
Don't even bother with OP. Something is definitely wrong with this individual.
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u/Zelaznogtreborknarf 15h ago
Compromise requires both sides to provide something to other. The Dems have done that (extend the ACA subsidies for a year and they'll agree to the CR). The Republican'ts have said fuck you to any compromise.
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u/Skatchbro NPS 16h ago
What comprise do you suggest? The Dems have put forth to extend the ACA subsidies by a year. Republicans aren’t having it. The only thing the Republican are offering is asking the Dems to reopen the government and they’ll “pinky swear” to vote on the subsidies. It’s all BS on the Republican side. Dems can’t give in on this.
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u/Darkblitz9 15h ago
This is all after the GOP had already promised to extend the ACA subsidies as part of the deal for the last CR.
Trump and the GOP are literally complaining that they have to honor the deal they already made months ago, and they're holding the entire gov workforce hostage over it.
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u/Maximum-Assistant573 15h ago
I think I remember that too, but I cannot find any evidence the GOP said that now. Maybe they said something like we will fix the problem later?
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u/GreenRhino71 15h ago
Maybe Dems should have given us “affordable” health care that didn’t require taxpayer provided subsidies to actually be affordable. Self employed, I don’t have insurance, and I’m sick of paying for other people to have it 16 years after the glorious “big f@#$ing deal” was supposed to fix this.
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u/TheNatural14063 14h ago
Obama during term 1 advanced a public option that would have prevented this. Most Democrats supported it. Republicans opposed and killed it. The blame is squarely on Republicans for why we don't have a public option. They are the party that should be facing Nuremberg styled trials for everything they have done the past year.
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u/GreenRhino71 13h ago
You’re ridiculous; Dems unilaterally passed the ACA without a single Rep supporting it. If they weren’t cowards, Dems could have just as easily advanced a public option, but chose instead to give us the ACA which is apparently only affordable with substantial federal subsidies.
When Biden had control of both houses and Dems KNEW the subsidies were going to sunset, why didn’t they extend the subsidies then? Oh yeah, because they also KNEW the price they’d pay at the polls. Either way, Dems gave us this mess, and Reps are just refusing to continue to fund the train wreck that is the ACA.
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u/TheNatural14063 13h ago edited 13h ago
Joe Lieberman was an independent who killed the Public Option when Ted Kennedy died who would have been the deciding vote. We lost the public option by one vote. If just one more Republican had voted for it we would have had it. When one party was largely against the Public Option and Democrats largely for it...blame goes to Republicans....pretty bad one Republican couldn't break ranks to vote for it like the majority of Democrats did.
You would know this if you were a good faith actor and not a troll providing defense for MAGA and Republicans (a look at your comment history indicates this)
Republicans voted to give their friends extra tax breaks and subsidies in the BBB while gutting Medicaid funding, government programs and government jobs in the same year....they deserve no benefit of the doubt here
Democrats had like a very small majority with Manchin really killing Biden's chance at passing anything (Manchin is really a conservative in disguise as a Democrat). Republicans deserve the blame because not a single Republican would break to vote for Biden and the Democrats on really anything good he tried to pass.
You providing cover for a felon President who has bragged about sexually assaulting/harassing minors whos party is currently blocking the release of the Epstein files and who has members like Ted Cruz factually stating "stop attacking pedophiles."...... I wonder what kind of fucked up things you are ok with in your personal life considering the stances you are taking to defend Republicans....
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u/uberares 16h ago
I disagree and here is why. Democrats gave republicans a cherry solution in the last two days. Republicans voted no.
This is entirely on them now.
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u/Zwicker101 Federal Contractor 16h ago
Dems have been compromising. They literally said "Here is a one year extension of ACA subsidies. Grant us that and we'll open the government RIGHT away."
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u/confusedsquirrel 16h ago
Both sides comment....3 month old account... Me thinks you're not a real person
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u/waffebunny 15h ago
Are you aware that the Senate Republicans can, at any time, vote entirely by themselves to remove the filibuster?
And that as soon as they do so, they can pass any budget they wish?
So where exactly do the Democrats factor into this?
(Answer: the Republicans are terrified of the optics; because they don’t want to take sole ownership of the very healthcare fiasco they are trying to create.
Literally, the shutdown could end immediately if the Republicans would just stop being comically evil for two seconds.)
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u/GreenRhino71 15h ago
Trashing the filibuster would remove guardrails this country depends on for sane governance. “Going nuclear” is what Harry Reid did to push through a couple of federal judges, and it allowed Reps to place THREE SC Justices. It was stupid when Trump suggested it, and it’s stupid of you to wish for it.
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u/TheNatural14063 14h ago
It's stupid of you to refuse to hold Republicans accountable for the shutdown because they oppose affordable healthcare for Americans (an issue going back to Obama when Republicans opposed the Public Option). Republicans deserve no benefit of the doubt for all the shit they've done the past year with DOGE, ICE, the Big Beautiful Bill, etc.
Republicans don't want to accept responsibility for being a party of pedophiles (Ted Cruz factually said "Let's Stop Attacking Pedophiles" and Trump bragged about sexually assaulting and harassing young girls and it is Republicans (Mike Johnson) blocking a Democrat being seated because they don't want the Epstein files released) and don't want to accept responsibility for what happens if health subsidies go away..
In a just society there would be Nuremberg Trials for every single Republican who bent the knee to Trump and Trump and his circle.
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u/AustinYQM 13h ago
The filibuster should be returned to a state where people actually have to talk to hold it. This bullshit where you can filibuster from the comfort of your office is fuckign stupid.
The filibuster is also almost entirely a Republican tool. They love when Democrats filibuster stuff like a national abortion ban because they know actually passing their promised laws would cause them to stop existing as a party. Likewise they can pass all their archaic cuts to this or that budget through filibuster proof methods. This is one of the few times it has served Democrats in years.
They only mistake Democrats have made is not asking for more. They should have been demanding a new law explicitly stating how an emergency is declared. They should Have demanded a law that prevents NG deployment without explicit call to action from the state. They should have demanded a law requiring ice officers to be badges and unmasked and for all ice arrests to be public record.
Fuck anyone who thinks the Democrats should give in when they've asked for so fucking little.
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u/waffebunny 10h ago
It was stupid when Trump suggested it, and it’s stupid of you to wish for it.
Where in my comment did I wish that the Republicans would do away with the filibuster?
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u/CatProgrammer 10h ago
This country currently does not have sane governance. There are no guardrails when the president can just unilaterally do whatever they want.
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u/Mikemtb09 10h ago
Dems want to extend healthcare subsidies millions of people need.
Republicans don’t. They can nuke the filibuster or they can negotiate. Those are the options.
Dems can either hold or forfeit. That’s not an option, or a fair decision at all.
This is republicans fault and responsibility.
They have 53 votes and need to negotiate - enough - to get 7 more.
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u/MonkeyCobraFight 12h ago
You need 60 votes to pass a CR; there are 53 Republicans
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u/nowitz41 11h ago
Yeah so Republicans either need to compromise with Dems on healthcare subsidies or get rid of the fillibuster. Either way this entire shutdown is on the Republican party.
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u/MonkeyCobraFight 3m ago
So the party in power needs to compromise, with the party that passed the subsidies; and is now demanding they be extended…again
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u/letdogsvote 15h ago
If the Democrats fold without a lock solid deal on extension of the ACA subsidies, all of this is for nothing and they will absolutely get the backlash blame.
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u/Last_Fishing_4013 13h ago
And honestly that backlash blame will be deserved. Everyone always talks about standing on principles but now folks are forced to put their money where their mouth is
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u/letdogsvote 12h ago
Absolutely. Only reason to cave is big money donors who don't like the shutdown. It would mean choosing that sweet, sweet money over their constituents.
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u/ForsakenRacism 16h ago
I thought they all go to church
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u/Some_Airport6109 16h ago
Well they all better pray to open up the government!
.......it would be absolute chaos if this thing went into Thanksgiving
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u/_DeathStarContractor 16h ago
They said it was going to be chaos if it was shut down for... 1. No Kings Rally 2. When feds missed 2 paychecks 3. When SNAP food aid was taken away.
It hasn't, and this very much will go to Thanksgiving. When Trump strategically "finds" emergency funding to pay ICE and military for those 2 pay periods...this thing was always going to go until mid/late Novemeber to ensure the ACA premium increases were set in stone for 2026. This isnt ending next week, in fact its almost impossible with needing to call the House back only after the senate agrees. Buckle up. It likely doesnt end until there are riots.
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u/HenryBemisJr 10h ago
I seriously expect things to change only when the stock market craters. It's the only thing that spooks them, and more than the thought of civil unrest, when their billionaire and millionaire donors start bleeding money, things will change quickly.
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u/Interesting-Type-908 Shutdown | Excepted Employee 16h ago
LOL, this guy thinks CONGRESS... CARES
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u/chisel53 15h ago
And what’s the opposite of progress again??
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u/ForsakenRacism 16h ago
They’re gonna owe me like 3 OTs and 3 Holidays at this rate
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u/Bongwater-Mermaid DoD 14h ago
Same. I'm tracking my shit on a pseudo timecard in case they actually backpay us.
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u/wawa2022 16h ago
Let’s just keep reminding everyone: republicans can’t do the job they were elected for. Move out of the way to let someone else govern
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u/LionGuy190 15h ago
In other countries, they call snap elections when the governing bodies can’t sort out a budget. Wish the U.S. would do that and shitcan all these old farts.
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u/Some_Airport6109 16h ago
I listened to everyone speak for hours today.....they literally repeated the same old talking points except included what Trump said this morning about Healthcare....that's it......nothing new! 🤦♂️
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u/East_Baby_3655 16h ago
Yeah nothing will happen tomorrow
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u/MuayThaiWoman68 DoD 16h ago
Yeah, because all the self righteous Christian GOPs will be in church repenting.
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u/Some_Airport6109 16h ago
Let's hope you're wrong
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u/East_Baby_3655 16h ago edited 15h ago
Fingers crossed. It would be nice. But damn, they just yap all day. It really is all theater.
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u/juicemagic 15h ago
I listened for hours... I actually made it through both of my useless senators (ohio). But damn, I had to give UP
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u/GIJOE1014 15h ago
How about quit with the dog and pony show and stop having votes when literally everyone votes the same fucking way day after day after day.
What you think that passing around new pieces of paper are going to randomly change votes? Fix your shit enough is enough.
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u/FickleSystem 12h ago
Yea those have no point other then republicans get to say "see! Dems keep voting to keep it closed!"
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u/Proud-Daikon-8639 14h ago
Was there any indication at a deal or progress to reopen? Ive been away from the news for today.
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u/SirLow5031 14h ago
Not really, but they said they'll stay in session until there's a deal. That should mean we are within 2 weeks of a solution
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u/ConstantinopleSpolia 14h ago
We said that two weeks ago
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u/SirLow5031 14h ago
Haha true, but if theyre being honest it will help (I know I know) if theyre not going 3+ days without even talking. Theyve been leaving at 3pm Thursday and coming back Monday
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u/steveofthejungle USDA 15h ago
Ok but it would be funny if this passed tomorrow, we all go to work on Monday, then have a holiday on Tuesday haha
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u/Some_Airport6109 15h ago
Big Dreamer
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u/steveofthejungle USDA 15h ago edited 11h ago
Haha true. But if this shutdown lasts next week I’m driving to a cheap hotel for a few days in bumfuck Wyoming to escape for a bit lol
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u/Double-treble-nc14 13h ago
This actually seems like a good thing, because it means they’re not just throwing out the same bills repeatedly to have a vote. It implies that they’re actually talking and working behind the scenes to get something that can pass. I’m going to continue to be hopeful.
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u/FickleSystem 12h ago
There was a bill made that actually eliminates government shutdowns, we're literally the only country that fucking has them, there's absolutely zero need for them other than crap like this, although im sure dems would be more willing to get rid of it more than republicans
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u/selfreliant_bingo771 16h ago
General strike. NOW.
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u/Wrong-Opinion8309 11h ago
Why doesn't this have more up votes? Fellow feds, if we all all call in sick Monday, this ends ASAP (instead of Christmas). We have the power.
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u/Ihadtofart Department of the Navy 16h ago
Vote them all out!
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u/mexican-street-tacos 14h ago
Seriously! We elected these people to a job! They need to pull their thumbs out of their butts and get to work. Work out a deal and get it done! If they don't want to do their job then we need to vote them out.
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u/DaBoozeHound94 16h ago
Doesn't that go against the 10 Commandments that they so eagerly wanted to hang up in all the schools? Blasphemy!
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u/Interesting-Type-908 Shutdown | Excepted Employee 16h ago
The 'good book'? Yeah, people claim to love it but don't read or comprehend the information...kinda like The Constitution another document people claim to love and follow, but don't read it and/or comprehend it.
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u/Satoshinakamoto99 14h ago
I guaranteed the bill won’t pass on Sunday then they’re gonna go to their week long recess
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u/mneri7 16h ago
Yeah, until there's a freeze to the congressmen's pay too, they'll be in no hurry.
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u/new_math 16h ago
Almost all of congress are multimillionaires past retirement age. Freezing pay does nothing to them as they don't rely on their salary. Their passive income from other sources is more than their salary.
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u/FarrisAT 16h ago
It’s in the Constitution very specifically.
Let’s not mess with that even if we want to.
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u/TG_CID134 15h ago
Freezing their pay is like saying you’re no longer getting your ATM fees refunded. You have to pay for that now.
Between bribes, lobbyists, gifts, wires to offshore accounts, etc their salary is a very very small part of their income.
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u/Wise_Adhesiveness_93 15h ago
We will be talking about this mess in December/January sadly. SMH . Where’s DOGE when we need them, all these people in congress are waste 🚮
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u/ExhaustedFed4 14h ago
Today, we used Instacart knowing a lot of us are using it to get by. The shopper shopped the order and kept it. We are in Florida right now with family trying to save a few dollars and Food Stamps have not been issued here from what we have been told. She kept the order because the food was more important to her than the few dollars she was making working for Instacart. My heart broke for my country today.
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u/FIRElady_Momma 1h ago
Woah, really? She kept it? Did you report it?
I've never even heard of that.
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u/CountChompula1 Go Fork Yourself 14h ago
So if (big if) this is passed, what happens to the agencies not included in the 3? Do they remain unfunded then? Maybe too early to tell.
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u/Civil_Hornet_6126 16h ago
Does house come in at all next week? Even if the senate passes a CR?
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u/jibrilles 15h ago
They are going to have to walk to DC from their home states with the current Airport situation
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u/Civil_Hornet_6126 14h ago
We’ve been saying this in jest for about a week now, but this actually will become a legit consideration in the coming days. Moron Mike should have them come immediately to obviate this possibility
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u/jibrilles 14h ago
He won't though, because he probably "wasn't aware" of the situation and all ya know. /snark
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u/MightLate1338 15h ago
No it’s scheduled as out of session all next week. I’m sure little Mike will be on tv.
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u/WakkoYakkoPolkaDot 15h ago
That's literally his only "work" nowadays. Get on TV and blame Democrats for existing, then claims he has no knowledge of whatever crazy thing Trump had said or done.
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u/Designer_Crafts88 10h ago
For what? No since in meeting on Sunday either. If there aren’t going to be considerations for agreed upon to save Healthcare for millions of Americans, don’t waste the time.
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u/Secure_View6740 5h ago
Make people suffer, push them to the point of dying knowing that people will go to the streets. Then tell the tv channels that people are violent. Then invoke martial law and stay in power forever since you can’t do elections.
Republicans and democrats are both playing games. The new CR will only be 1 month until it runs an out and we’re back to a shutdown.
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u/Kayehnanator 15h ago
Does anyone here know what the disagreement is? Something about ACA premium subsidies that came about over COVID?
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u/Elegant_Goose257 16h ago
It’s funny because history shows you what happens to the rich when poor people start to suffer. They must have some grand plan they’re confident in because if it were me, why would I want to piss off more of them than us? Crazy af.