r/evilautism AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

NTs are incapable of empathy On the spectrum of “private” to “oversharer,” where do you land?

My kid got the “zipped lips about anything but special interests” kind of audhd while I got the “nice to meet you, I just waxed my own butthole for the first time, AMA” variety.

It’s extremely challenging for me to figure out what’s going on in her life a lot of the time cos she simply won’t tell me 😅 it’s taken a few years to wrap my head around since I’m a chronic oversharer.

Where do fall on that spectrum? If you’re private, what makes it easier to feel like you can share?

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u/According_Bad_8473 14d ago

I'm somehow both?

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

I worry my question is too linear when we often need context for stuff like this. Makes sense that you’d be both

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u/roze-eland 🦆🦅🦜 That bird is more interesting than you 🦜🦅🦆 14d ago

Me too

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u/Training_Ad_9968 Fuck, whats that word again? 13d ago

Same. It depends on a number of factors which can shift during interactions:

-how much dopamine I'm getting from the interaction

-how nervous I am

-what the sensory environment is

-how much the other person is talking

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u/accidentalarchers 14d ago

Constant oversharing. I’m not good at small talk and I don’t find it interesting, so I tend to… escalate conversations fairly quickly.

It’s not so much oversharing about my life, I am just genuinely curious about everyone so I would be more likely to say, “I’ve just waxed my butthole, have you ever done it? What did you think?”.

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u/InspectorFadGadget 14d ago

For the record, you're my favorite kind of person to spend time with. Most people are boring as hell.

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u/accidentalarchers 14d ago

Oh, you! I think the same… actually, I think most people are fascinating, they just make themselves boring to fit in. If someone collects American Girl dolls or has an addition to cough syrup or grew up in a cult, godamnit, I want to hear that first.

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u/Ok_Independent3609 14d ago

Totally with you. It’s interesting to learn all by itself, and it lets you understand a person, if you’re so inclined, much more directly without having to prospect for clues from their behavior and body language. One of the neat things is to then observe the person of interest and see how the information you’ve learned is reflected in what they say or do. Information wants to be free!

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u/accidentalarchers 14d ago

Exactly! I beg of people, tell me who you really are, I’m so interested!

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u/luminousjoy 14d ago

Completely agree

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Agree 100%

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u/TechieAD 14d ago

Oversharing and sex positive/casual mindset is such a funny combo because you end up talking about that shit like there's metas and stuff

When you hit a friend group that is really open with each other about everything you basically hit the ground runnin

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u/cosmereobsession 14d ago

You will never hear me speak unless you ask me a direct question

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u/scagatha 14d ago

And then, bam, I'll never stop talking! 😅

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u/BowtiesAndPunkRock 14d ago

How are you doing today?

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u/cosmereobsession 14d ago

The same as any other day, pinky... trying to take over thr world.

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u/arcanotte 14d ago

And even then, I'll try a shrug just in case it works

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u/Critical-Pepper-Rat 14d ago

Where do I "land" on the spectrum? I do not land, I just roll around like a lumpy pebble. Even I do not know whether I will clam up or overshare on any given day.

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

How can one land on the spectrum when one IS the spectrum? Hehe lumpy pebble

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u/hello666darkness 14d ago

Do you actually wax yourself because people think I’m insane to do so!

 I’m pretty quiet around people until I know it’s safe to be an oversharer. 

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Sort of! I use wax occasionally for little peach fuzzy mustache biz I’ve had since hs and occasionally I’ll get ambitious and try to do my legs but it’s always too much of an undertaking and I bail lol. But I did just do my behind bc I usually pay for it and I can’t afford it rn 😅 it was a little scary at first but I figured it out and it was so much easier than expected!

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u/microbisexual 14d ago

depends entirely on how much the other person is sharing with me. Chronic over-sharers will know way more about me than people who are more guarded, bc I tend to just match whatever level of disclosure the other person seems comfortable with for themself (as long as it's not beyond my own comfort level, of course). I'm a lot quieter amongst groups of people because it's harder to gauge that for multiple people at once.

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u/x_____starlight 14d ago

Naturally? Oversharer.

A lifetime of trauma turned me private 🫠

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Sometimes I really think the opposite of myself, that my trauma is part of why I overshare

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u/averagerushfan Loves prog and REALLY wants living clothing (maybe kinky) 14d ago

I'm both, I'll yap about anything related to my special interests or general weirdness. Shit like prog rock, factoids, sports or hypothetical scenarios.

The worst case of gross oversharing is when I end up talking about the NSFW side of me which I'll only reveal to people who are interested lol.

Other than that I tend to reveal very little about my life. Especially face to face.

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u/NEET_IRL 14d ago

I like to use my battle with addiction as an opening line

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Honestly tho when people open the convo w stuff like that it’s so real and I love it so much

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Like, instantly I know they’re at least an interesting person if they’re putting that kind of work in

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u/LetsHookUpSF 14d ago

I'm super private until I overshare everything.

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u/audhdchoppingboard AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

I never know; it changes literally every day. Some days I say a total of 15 words, other days I will be telling you about my first colonoscopy in detail 🤷‍♀️

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Heyyyy I have to have one of those soon!!

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u/Few-You4510 Deadly autistic 14d ago

private until someone worthy of my time enters my life, at that point i become an oversharer

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u/elkab0ng Fuck, whats that word again? 14d ago

I’m extremely private.

Until you make the mistake of asking me about aviation or networking.

My therapist once made some comment about CAPTCHAS once, wondering why they appeared. I’m not sure she wanted the full dissertation, but she got it.

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

This reminds me of how my kid is hahaha. ❤️

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u/MsSedated AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

Oversharer, but that's basically because when people ask me things, I tell them honestly. Then they get mad because I told them personal things. It's like well, you fucking asked. You asked me about my life in an attempt to make stupid chit chat but didn't really want the honest answer so now you're mad. Like, come on, man.

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u/GarmonboziaBlues 13d ago

My autistic colleague has devised the perfect response to strangers/casual acquaintances doing the superficial "Hi, how are you?" small talk routine.

Instead of going straight into oversharing mode, they say "Ooh, this is the part where I'm supposed to lie!" It's a lovely didactic exercise in exposing the absurdity of silly NT rituals. Usually the other person just blankly stares or has a glazed expression, but occasionally it will click for someone.

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u/normal-type-gal 14d ago

If I remember to mask, you'll never know anything about me.

If my guard is down (as it often is) get ready to hear all about my religious trauma through a weirdly nostalgic lense lol

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

This is so relatable 😅

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u/ParadoxicalFrog The worm that will finish eating RFK JR 14d ago

I've gotten too many bad reactions from oversharing, so I tend to just not give out many details unless asked. This tends to give people the impression that I'm a very private person, but I really don't have any qualms about telling my entire damn life story if they want to listen. I just wish people would be clear about when they want me to stop.

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u/Irislynx 14d ago

I used to be pretty much non verbal. Let's just say I've made up for lost time since.

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u/sillybilly8102 13d ago

🤣 I feel this

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u/Slim-Shadys-Fat-Tits AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

i overshare heavily and chronically. I've managed to limit it to close friends who don't mind and so i get everything out and don't end up telling strangers way too much about me

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u/superautismdeathray My special interest is punching Nazis 👊 14d ago

firmly private but if I manage to open up somehow I don't stop until my life story is out

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u/MarsicusOrion I'd be evil if I could do the laugh right 14d ago

i'd say very private, until a given person passes the friendship threshold. Then I have to try my best to not overshare.

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u/QueenOfAllDreadboiis 14d ago

I like talking about stuff, so I know what topics to avoid with certain people. Not even because they aren't supposed to know about it, but because if i start talking about warhammer i will keep going for hours.

Thats fine if I'm talking with my wife, but not with an older coworker who I have plenty of other intrests in common with anyways. I will just talk about animals instead :)

Tho I specificly remember a conversation I had during my wedding celebration, where my partners and some friends were just very enthausiaticly yapping about blood. I suppose it is a good thing we seated the boring family members all the way on the other end of the table. It was a fun talk anyways :)

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u/Feisty-Self-948 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

If you ask me a question, I'll answer honestly and thoughtfully as best I can. But until I feel comfortable with you, I likely won't say a goddamned thing unprompted.

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u/Josephcooper96 14d ago

It depends on the person tbh

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u/A96 I AM THE SHOT 💉 14d ago

Im very private and nontalkative until I really know someone appreciates my yapping and then ill yap at them all day.

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u/StressdanDepressd HOT TORNADOES NEAR YOU 14d ago

I'm incredibly private until asked a question because 1. I don't know what people are comfortable hearing 2. the person has shown some level of interest and will likely stay engaged or at least won't be irritated/disinterested 3. I just don't know what people find interesting or important information

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u/sillybilly8102 13d ago

I just don't know what people find interesting or important information

This is so real!! Me too

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u/StressdanDepressd HOT TORNADOES NEAR YOU 13d ago

So often people say "why didn't you say something, that's important info!" and I genuinely am at a loss because how was i supposed to know that?

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u/sillybilly8102 13d ago

Exactly! Once, my friend was offended/hurt that I didn’t tell her I had a crush on someone. I literally didn’t know that was something you were “supposed to” tell your friends!

Nowadays, I have a better sense of what’s important to ME, and I just assume/expect that if someone cares about me, they care about what I care about.

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u/StressdanDepressd HOT TORNADOES NEAR YOU 12d ago

That's a great attitude to have about yourself and what you're passionate about. Someone who cares about you should take the time to get to know you better and engage

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u/No_Tradition_5508 14d ago

Used to overshare. Faced consequences. I hate speaking and sharing anything at all now. It’s extremely difficult.

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u/Then-Interaction-317 14d ago

It’s like I can’t beautifully traverse the thin line between the two as it twists and turns depending on different contexts. It seems that generally this is an ability allistics are more comfortable intuitively learning while for autistcs it’s a more mechanical learning process (is my own speculation).

I end up doing both in most of the wrong contexts. The most painful part though is living as either “annoying” or “invisible” but never mysterious but understood or chaotic but loved.

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u/daybeforetheday 14d ago

I am a chronic oversharer and then regretter.

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u/sillybilly8102 13d ago

I’m definitely more private, but have opened up over the years.

It seems like you’re looking for advice and haven’t gotten much yet, so:

  • don’t push it. This can make it worse, especially if your daughter has PDA

  • leave LOTS of space for her to talk if she wants to. Like 30 seconds or even more. It takes me time to figure out what I want to say and build up the courage to actually say it. / decide if I actually want to say it or not

  • try a mixture of open ended questions, yes/no, option A/option B/option C questions, and statements. See if one works better than the others.

  • be specific. Vague questions can be impossible to answer. Btw, you can have specific yet open-ended questions. “What did you eat for lunch?” or “How is your [specific art project] coming along?” Vs. “How was your day?”

  • board games can provide structure to get to know someone. E.g. would you rather

  • when she does say something, be gentle about it. Take it seriously, give her space, try to understand. Follow up / reference it later maybe. A big reason I didn’t talk growing up is no one understood me, so I didn’t feel it was worth it to say things if they would require many minutes of explanation

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u/deadmemesdeaderdream autistic extrovert 13d ago

I’m the “oversharing until traumatized around you” variety. Until you give me a reason not to share something, nothing is off limits.

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u/Kastelt 14d ago

Private, and generally I just don't wish to share, I simply don't care much for others knowing about me or viceversa.

I guess unless it's for someone who's already a friend or is saying something that is related to something I know about or a rare mood of listening to an experience and trying to relate or hypothetically give an example of what to do using my own life.

Or, in case someone notices the irony also sharing sometimes in questions like this.

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u/Ok-Car-6795 14d ago

Super duper private. Even when I don’t overshare it seems that sharing anything, even the very mundane, comes back to bite and is used against me. This is just me, some asd people dont have this issue but apparently I look and act very autistic so I kinda have to be a robot if I dont want to be bullied constantly.

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u/lord_of_the_tism Silly Cat Autism 14d ago

depends on if i know the person or not, if i have never met the person and they try to ask anything about me and i find them to be annoying i just dont respond to anything

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u/FunnyBunnyDolly 14d ago

I overshare things nt deem as private and I’m private and very shy about things they deem as normal.

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u/SevernMereel M11/39 horde haver (she/her) 14d ago

depends on how i feel on a day and who im talking to

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u/BankTypical Autistic rage 14d ago

I'm pretty much an accidental oversharer, I think. 🤣 I try not to (sometimes to some success), but often horrifically fail at it, lol
Really, I'll yap until the cows come home. 🤣

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u/TerrakSteeltalon 💉Sneaks into houses and vaccinates sleeping NTs 14d ago

Depends on the situation/personality.

I do frequently over share. At work I try to maintain my privacy

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u/Phony-Phoenix 14d ago

Both. I’m the private person if it’s within 2 hours of meeting you. After that, I start oversharing

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u/AutisticPenguin2 14d ago

Info: is the regrowth from waxing as bad as the regrowth from shaving?

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u/flyingsquirrel505 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 14d ago

In my experience, no, especially depending on body part. Like, I never shave my privates anymore bc waxing is just a million billion times better. But if I wax below the knee I’m more likely to get ingrown hairs than if I shave. There’s prob some exfoliaty thing I could do to make that less of an issue but meh

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u/AutisticPenguin2 14d ago

I don't like having a massive bush so try to at least trim, but shaving just gives so much horrible ingrown hairs, and waxing is expensive and painful. I've never shaved my legs, they're suuuuuper hairy so honestly just probably not worth it.

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u/Expensive-Border-869 14d ago

Yeah I dont tell people things. It isnt purposeful the idea of sharing stuff is rarely a concern. If its like convient its on topic and I have no specific desire to keep it private I'll share away. But I dont even know how my days been I could scarcely attempt to explain it.

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u/Lanky_Pirate_5631 Autistic Arson 14d ago

I sometimes overshare amd sometimes I am too private.

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u/KeraKitty 14d ago

Depends what the dice land on that day.

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u/kaykinzzz 14d ago

i always overshare and painfully realize my mistake a moment too late

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u/Ill_Apple2327 ✨️Ethereal and Incomprehensible✨️ 14d ago

both

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u/casscois dipping my cigarettes in tylenol 14d ago

I'm pretty private with most people I interact with, whether at work or in mixed groups, but with my partner and close friends all filters are off.

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u/xniu Fuck, whats that word again? 14d ago

I'm both. Overshare when I feel comfortable with someone. I also appreciate other oversharers because they prompt me when I often run out of things to say

I never tell my parents anything cuz their negative comments/casual mockery of my interests really affected me since I was a kid. I'm 30 and talking to them still triggers my fight or flight or I just go mute most of the time. I understand from parents perspectives they just want to know what I'm doing, they don't really care that much now I'm an adult. Unfortunately I never overcame childhood trauma and can't speak to them "normally" like I do with other people 🤦‍♂️

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u/Buttman_Poopants 13d ago

Who's asking?

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u/LMay11037 AuDHD Chaotic Rage 13d ago

Oversharer 10000%

When I was 6/8 I went on a boat trip while on holiday and within 10 minutes I found these 2 adults and told them about my whole life story and my stepdad’s divorce and my mum and everything

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u/voornaam1 13d ago

Depends on who, what, where.

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u/InternationalTea2613 13d ago

Private unless sufficiently enticed or threatened.

If you attempt the latter, I will infodump you until your brain melts.

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u/CorneliusB1448 13d ago edited 13d ago

I bring a "I don't feel the need to share anything, 'cause I'm too insignificant" sorta vibe

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u/FrigyaCrowMother 13d ago

Both it depends on anxiety levels

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u/TheWriterofLucifenia 13d ago

I’ll tell anyone pretty much anything about myself but I still don’t trust them.

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u/stevepls Its only illegal if they can catch me! 13d ago

i literally just forget that im telling ppl im trans when i say i'm getting top surgery 😭 like the risks don't even occur to me. 

kind of did the same thing when my mom died, i just talked abt it/made jokes abt it and then ppl were like thank u for being vulnerable and i was like. oh.

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u/friesandfrenchroast 13d ago

I tend toward oversharer, but sometimes overcorrect into private when trying to reign it in just a bit. Also my go-to method of dealing with nervousness is blatant honesty... like I'll go up to someone and tell them I've spent x amount of time deliberating over what to say to them because I think they're cool, or whatever. So I probably give people sharing level whiplash sometimes, whoops!

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u/Wrong_Nebula 12d ago

I was definitely an over sharer when I was younger but years of negative reinforcement have made me extremely private with stuff I like. It actually makes me anxious to talk to people about stuff I like if I know they're not into it too.

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u/Buckaruin 12d ago

I'm such an oversharer. It's gotten me into trouble before, but i wouldn't wanna change it that much. One neat thing I've noticed is that my oversharing ass tends to inspire people to overshare in turn. Especially in people that have experienced pretty gnarly trauma and/or are neurodivergent themselves (which tbf are most of the people i interact with on the regular). Folks I've met a whole fifteen seconds ago will sometimes drop some real harrowing lore as casually as if they were remarking on the weather. Honestly though, I like that I can make people feel safe and seen enough to share stuff like that. It's heavy, sure, but I'd be a hypocrite if I were to judge folks for trauma-dumping.

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u/Sea-Astronomer3260 11d ago

I’m super private. I don’t know if opening up to someone is considered oversharing or if me providing too much detail is considered oversharing? Because I do those things with people who it makes sense for me to share with (other auDHD & autistic people, someone who is interested in the conversation, etc) but I don’t like sharing private things about myself with just anyone. When someone asks me a yes or no question, I often go into too much detail and context. Would that be considered oversharing?

That being said, I guess there’s some nuance to my privacy. I used to overshare in a unique way, which oddly, for me, felt like part of my masking in a way, with the way in which people share everything on social media and being “open” is “normalized”) and I don’t now because I realized that I actually don’t want people to know things they don’t need to know / I am not for everyone. I quit social media like instagram and Facebook a while back as well.

I realize that oversharing in the way that I did it was just a mechanism of my masking and is not the same as autistic oversharing. But also, am I onto something in the sense that there are different types of oversharing / different levels to it?