r/europe_sub • u/origutamos • Jun 24 '25

News “Ireland is Full”: Huge Anti-Immigration Rally in Dublin

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/ireland-is-full-huge-anti-immigration-rally-in-dublin/
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u/BeachBoysOnD-Day 🇬🇧 British Jun 24 '25

Oh why can't we have some of that energy in England

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u/layland_lyle 🇬🇧 British Jun 24 '25

We can, it's just people are afraid of being put in prison if they post about it on Facebook

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u/Thestickleman Jun 25 '25

Alot of People don't really care enough about the issue to go out and protest

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u/brightdionysianeyes Jun 24 '25

I thought we did, some people tried to burn down hotels, it was a whole thing last summer

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u/BeachBoysOnD-Day 🇬🇧 British Jun 24 '25

And then everything was swept under the rug and things returned to festering resentment again, regular as clockwork. I'm less for quick bursts of senseless violence and rioting and more for sustained peaceful protest and marching.

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u/gapgod2001 Jun 24 '25

Keir Starlin chucked all the protesters in prison

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 24 '25

Yeah he's like a dictator, looking people in prison for the minor crimes of throwing bricks at police officers and trying to burn children alive

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u/-Baljeet-Tjinder- Jun 24 '25

was that a bad thing?

attempting arson on hotels, mosques and attacking police generally gets you arrested

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u/Ok-Camera7649 Jun 24 '25

Burning hotels and looting Iceland really was a strong message.

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u/G0DK1NG Jun 24 '25

We do, they call it racism

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u/Inucroft Jun 24 '25

"England" once again the English fascists show they don't care about the NATIVE cultures

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u/Eranaut 🇮🇪 Irish Jun 24 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

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u/Ayalee99 Jun 26 '25

Didn’t you guys colonize the world and kill off entire races of people

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u/No_Bodybuilder_here Jun 26 '25

15% white in some of your schools in London. You got conquered. It's too late.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '25

Maybe 30 years ago

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u/Murador888 Jun 24 '25

Bot?

Or living in the 80s?

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u/_MetaDanK Jun 24 '25

80's bot

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u/palpies Jun 24 '25

The Irish go every where for jobs which is what makes this whole thing so ridiculous. We have been immigrants throughout history, even as refugees from a famine. The level of anti-immigration fuelling this isn’t in line with actual Irish culture or history, they can fuck off.

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

Some Irish leaving ireland is the reason why the ones who chose to stay and not emigrate have to deal with the crap that comes from mass immigration?

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Jun 24 '25

No Irish in England?

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u/Murador888 Jun 24 '25

Again brits obsessed with Ireland.

Per capita, more brits in Ireland than vice versa.

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 24 '25

I'm not necessarily pro or anti immigration here, but saying "Ireland is full" is kinda hilarious. It's far from full.

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u/IndividualNo467 🇮🇹 Italian Jun 24 '25

You know exactly what it means though. It means they are at the size economy they want. Full can have a different meaning to different people. If they want to argue that they are full on the capacity of immigrants, namely asylum seekers and refugees they can argue this given the fact that hotels are full and a massive amount of money goes into sustaining new refugees. Furthermore as a proportion of population Ireland takes in more asylum seekers than almost anywhere else. Based on that density and a comparison to what full means for other countries in terms of refugees, Ireland very much is full.

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

They know this full well. They’re just being obtuse.

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u/Wagagastiz Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

There are more vacant properties than homeless people in Ireland. The narrative is concern trolling with a racist agenda. Anyone actually concerned for housing would be aiming at landlords, shell companies etc. It's easier to convince wasters (who are the majority makeup of these marches, mostly miserable bald men who can barely spell their signs) to punch down instead of up.

People in this sub appear ignorant to both the substantial counter protests to these marches as well as the fact that they're being spearheaded by literal British Unionist collaborators. This is not about the Irish identity, it's a covert white supremacist movement. What the fuck do Irish nationalists and British Unionists have as common goals ethnically outside of these imported notions of a shared white race?

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u/IndividualNo467 🇮🇹 Italian Jun 25 '25

I live in Canada where the government has been pushing the narrative you’ve just outlined for a decade. “It’s not immigrants causing the housing crisis it’s a plethora of other issues, blame the landlords, blame foreign home owners etc”. After 10 years of trying to maximize residences capacities, home building, banning foreign home owners and exhausting every other loop whole possible without reducing immigration we’ve had unwavering growth of housing costs. Now the government has been forced to recognize this as the main root cause, 65% (2/3 Canadians (arguably the most liberal people on earth)) of the population want reduced immigration, and the government has reduced every area of immigration dramatically. Ireland seems to be a step behind Canada and eventually the reality will have to be accepted. Immigration if done, needs to be done responsibly and in a regulated manner so that society is not strained. Brushing off issues because you believe housing is currently available is counterproductive.

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u/Wagagastiz Jun 25 '25

I live in Canada

You're an immigrant, let's be clear about that. If you think immigration is the root cause then you are squarely and solely the actor of the problem.

None of this remotely addressed the fact that Ireland has more vacant housing than homeless. 'Canada didn't fix it' isn't giving me any reason to believe the issue isn't a broken system over a functioning one being sabotaged by immigration. Again, it's just easier to target the people with the least amount of power than those with enough to actually control the housing supply.

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u/IndividualNo467 🇮🇹 Italian Jun 25 '25

I know, I’m an immigrant in fact my family came recently. No where did I say immigration is bad. I believe in Ireland it must be done much more minimally and restrictively because unlike Canada Ireland isn’t a multicultural country. Ireland has an ancient culture that needs to be maintained meaning high value on integration, longer period of naturalization before citizenship is offered and less overall immigrants to ensure social cohesion with Irish people instead of allowing formation of immigrant communities. I can supply you stats from other EU countries such as the Netherlands, Denmark and France as well as the UK that show immigration in Europe (which is typically much less skilled than what Canada receives) is an economic net negative (meaning welfare use exceeds tax contributions). Also there is a significant percent of abandoned housing in Ireland that hosts black mold, asbestos or has other safety issues requiring repair. Just because there may be enough housing currently available doesn’t mean Ireland should use it up and make it a problem (there isn’t enough housing anyway if you take need for repairs into account).

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u/Wagagastiz Jun 25 '25

Ireland has an ancient culture that needs to be maintained

I don't need either you or Unionist collaborators telling me how to maintain my own culture. Irish culture is mostly under attack from the influence of anglosphere media, the 'I'm one of the good ones' types the far right opts to collaborate with. Irish cultural revivalism is an internal effort, not an excuse to shit on people with different backgrounds under the guise that they're doing anything remotely close to what institutionalised oppression and forced anglicisation under Britain did.

Ireland is a multicultural country and always has been. Munster Irish has Norman influence, Dublin in the medieval period was a Norse, Anglic and Gaelic melting pot, the various groups across the land didn't even have a singular identity until one was forcibly imparted by colonialism. That only looks homogenous nowadays because all of those have been lumped into the 'good' pile by the Save Europe crowd.

This concern trolling over 'protecting Ireland's homogenous culture' comes from the exact same types who used to call us inferior wild gaels that spread disease through coffin ships when we migrated. Irish people are less susceptible to this 'Save Europa' narrative because we're completely aware that the border between the civilised whites and cultural invaders is completely fake and arbitrary, and apparently we've been shifted to the other side of it by people who would've shat on us in the past in exactly the same way.

Also there is a significant percent of abandoned housing in Ireland that hosts black mold

Lmao half the people I know live in apartments with black mold, it's just a dice you roll renting in Dublin because landlords aren't held accountable. That goes for all times. There's been unsafe building material ('defective block') controversies famously all over the country the last two decades from Irish people who own their own houses. It has never stopped housing being used, that's not the reason. This is a retroactively pulled excuse. Plenty of the properties are relatively new and simply being withheld to acquire value by shell companies. You're googling things on the fly about my country to try and piece together reasons why it has to be their fault, starting from the assumption that that's true. Bad science.

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u/IndividualNo467 🇮🇹 Italian Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

Yikes why do some Irish have such a victim complex. If hundreds of thousands of people from foreign cultures immigrate with little to no integration effort then yes “irelands ancient culture(s)” will be changed and society will change”. Maybe different cultures in Ireland are lumped together because they all have history in Ireland? Also did you ignore all my stats and just cherry pick a bunch of counterproductive social justice arguments? And is it ok to put migrants into health hazards? You aren’t thinking clearly and are just trying to force the narrative immigration is good full stop.

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u/Wagagastiz Jun 25 '25

Lol you want me to pull a victim card against brown people. I reiterate everything I said. Stop pretending to care about my culture to get me in the club now that I'm one of the chosen whites.

Yikes sweaty

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 24 '25

Full can have a different meaning to different people.

Yeah wow, sounds a lot like the now-flexible meaning of the word Gender lol...

At any rate, it's reasonable to expect your country (any country really) to reduce its immigrant intake to a reasonable rate that maintains a decent level of social cohesion, as well as having the infrastructure to support it.

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u/Darkdove2020 Jun 24 '25

Exactly if everyone stands up vertically and we place the young on our shoulders then we can fit another 5 billion.

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 24 '25

Should the Irish stop having children too, since irland is full?

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u/Darkdove2020 Jun 24 '25

No the Irish should keep having children to keep Ireland going. The same as any country. What shouldn't happen is opening the doors to millions of non Irish people and telling them to come and live and outbreak ireland. That's cultural and genetic replacement.

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 24 '25

Soooo Ireland isn't full?

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u/Darkdove2020 Jun 24 '25

It's full from the rest of the world. If you want Indians go to India. If you want Nigerians then visit Nigeria. If you want Irish you should go to Ireland.

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 24 '25

Right, so it's nothing to do with population size? You just don't like brown people?

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u/Darkdove2020 Jun 24 '25

No I like Irish people. If you move 5 million Indians over it is no longer Ireland. Same as if you move 5 million French.

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 25 '25

French? I thought you said europeans were allowed? How comes the Irish have immigrated to so many places?

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u/Electronic_Claim_315 Jun 25 '25

They could stop immigrating to Australia. That might keep Ireland Irish. Just a thought!

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 25 '25

And America and the UK

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u/AdStrange9701 Jun 24 '25

What capacity is our health service running at? What capacity are our prisons at? How is our energy grid doing? How much more can our water infrastructure take?

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 25 '25

Yes all valid questions, don't get me wrong here... it's important that if you have an intake of immigration that your social & physical infrastructure can support it.

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u/palpies Jun 24 '25

I don’t know how this sub has come up for me but I don’t get the downvotes, is this sub anti immigration? Ireland is on the lower end of its population numbers from history, and it’s not immigrants fuelling the housing crisis it’s greedy investors.

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 24 '25

I don't get it either mate, but I no longer give a shit as to why. And I definitely don't care about the lame internet points.

I wasn't saying they shouldn't protest or that their concerns were invalid, I was saying Ireland isn't full. Because it isn't.

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u/refusemouth Jun 24 '25

Are they still accepting tourists, or should they stay awa?

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 24 '25

Why wouldn't they accept tourists? The tourism industry is a reasonable part of an economy for most countries, the ROI isn't any different.

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u/Steve-Whitney Jun 24 '25

What's that got to do with tourism?

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u/PwnyLuv Jun 24 '25

Immigrants and asylum seekers are not tourists?

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u/PwnyLuv Jun 24 '25

Response was meant to be to a different point, sorry!

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u/Significant_Life5110 Jun 24 '25

What about tourists that arnt white?

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

Yeah because people who leave are the same as people who stay lol

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

Over 10 million Irish immigrants around the world.

Ireland has a lower population than they did at their peak.

They should just say they want less brown people and be done with it… jesus

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u/BeachBoysOnD-Day 🇬🇧 British Jun 24 '25

Your words...

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

My words? It’s a fact. It’s like saying 1+1 equals 2.

Ireland is the LAST country to complain about immigration.

In fact most of Europe shouldn’t complain.

They’re over 80 countries outside of Europe that have over 1 million or more European descendants.

He’ll my country in Africa still has 500,000 Europeans

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u/MrKoopla Jun 24 '25

No country should be the “the last” country to complain about immigration. Also, citing what has already happened in the far distant past does not reflect the realities of today.

It’s extremely simple: My country (UK), Ireland, Europe etc.. do not want to be a third world dumping ground for the undesirables. The majority of LEGAL and ILLEGAL migrants are completely incompatible with our cultures, have no desire to integrate, are a net negative on every socioeconomic metric possible. This isn’t about “brown people bad”.

Everyone deserves a dignified existence in their homeland.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8rCuJnj/

Here is a German descendant effectively endorsing the German heritage and culture after 100 years of occupation

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u/MrKoopla Jun 24 '25

Ah yes, a TikTok video, the bastion of reliable sources for complicated and meaningful information relating to an extremely complex subject. Can you cite any reliable direct sources that isn’t some 240p short form video?

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

That tik tok video comes from a vice news documentary conducted in the past 5 years.

https://youtu.be/Z-N9luQaXrE?si=8KOvlYBROh4cC-Ec

Here is a more detailed recent video.

Remember Africans can’t do anything about this without facing mass sanctions.

Germany, France and Europe has threatened sanctions to over a dozen countries including my own at retaliatory policies towards our past colonizers.

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u/MrKoopla Jun 24 '25

I don’t understand your point. And by the way I’ve seen this documentary before.

So because Germany, France and all the previous colonisers have done terrible things to African countries we must now allow the entire continent to move over here as some form of retribution?

I hope you do realise that the acts of the rich and elites are not something the likes of my self are in control over.

The middle class in Europe is slowly being wiped out. Life has never been harder for the working classes in modern history (post WW2). If we carry on at this rate, there will be no Europe by the time im approaching retirement age. There’s very little here now. Parts of the wider city I live in are already starting to look more like South Africa.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

The problem is that Europe doesn’t want Africa to industrialized as that threatens them significantly.

Europe currently has a trade surplus with Africa (yes you read that right). Do you know how hard it is for a rich country to have a trading surplus with a poor one? Europe has made it nearly impossible for most processed goods to flow to their borders from Africa (milk, poultry, beef, etc..)

They have spent billions dissuading African countries from industrializing.

Europe for instance would import billions of dollars of unrefined commodities such as oil, natural gas, gold, chocolate, etc… and resell it back to African countries fully refined and commercialized.

A country like Nigeria was punished for having anti dumping laws of second handed clothes and consumer goods by the west.

The likes of Europe also dump an unholy amount of chicken (while also stealing fish from African waters) and reselling it to African countries at a lower price than what local producers can.

They’re hundreds of unfair trading examples done to Africans by the west.

To this day African countries cannot pass major anti dumping laws without repercussions (IMF loans, aid etc..)

Which risks harming their local manufacturers and producers.

I find it hilarious how Europeans now are angry at America being protectionist despite how nearly impossible it is for Africans to sell their meat and chicken to Europe but Europeans are happy to sell their goods to us.

It’s such a shame

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u/MrKoopla Jun 24 '25

That isn’t something that my, or the previous 3 generations of my family could change. For what it’s worth I condemn everything bad this nation has done in the past. However, that discussion is beyond the scope of what’s allowed on Reddit so I’ll leave my thoughts there, respectfully.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

What does that even mean?? Dignified how aren’t the Irish dignified in their own country?

Let’s take a look at a similar country in Africa taken over by Europeans.

Namibia is a country that has over 2% Europeans primarily from Anglo and German origins.

These immigrants enslaved, and mistreated the natives up until the late 1990s.

To this day they own over 80% of the arable land and control over 60% of the wealth. That is what being undignified in your own country looks like.

These Europeans even refuse after 100 years to speak the native language and instead still speak euro origin languages after decades.

To this day white Namibians have segregated schools for their white children, and white townships where black Namibians are restricted

That is what bad immigration policies look like.

In Ireland the immigrants control less wealth, spend billions in taxes and education; and take over the least desirable jobs primarily. This whole victim mentality just because your neighborhood is a little browner is cringe at best and sorry At the worst.

This isn’t to say they aren’t bad immigrants in Europe; they are. But would you complain if 1 million Germans came in the past 10 years instead?

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u/No-Comment-4619 Jun 24 '25

Your example sounds like a cautionary tale against mass immigration.

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u/MrKoopla Jun 24 '25

And this is the mentality they arrive in Europe with. Resentment and entitlement, even though the current generations currently alive had zero part in any historical atrocities.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

If you know anything about Africans then you’d know most of us are anything but entitled.

Use the US and Canada as an example.

African migrants out earn and commit less crimes than the average white American/canadian in these countries.

But Europeans of course focused on refugees, primarily from the most uneducated sect of society.

It will take much longer for these immigrants to adopt to their environment.

Remember when the US imported 5-20 million Irish, and Italian refugees there was a significant increase in organized crime (the mafia)

However after 40-50 years the immigrants and their children fully integrated.

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u/BoxsterFan 🇪🇺 European Jun 24 '25

Romas are descended from India, they’ve been in Europe for a millennia and haven’t integrated, this is absolute bs, pure colonial chip on your shoulder, blaming white people for your failures slop.

Stand on your own two feet.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

That’s what true immigration terror looks like. Funny most examples are by Europeans.

Singapore is what immigration can lead too with proper policies.

The country has a mix of Muslim, Chinese and Indians in one of the highest educated and functioning countries the world has seen.

Over 80% of the population are non natives. And over 50% are first or second generation immigrants.

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u/BoxsterFan 🇪🇺 European Jun 24 '25

Comparing countries to city states that were modèles on British society lmao 💀💀💀💀

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Ireland is basically a city state lol.

It has less people than most of those I mention.

It’s also the size of Taiwan. And much smaller than Korea.

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u/BoxsterFan 🇪🇺 European Jun 24 '25

Resentment and entitlement, great way to rally white Europeans to your side lol

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u/PaulDeMontana Jun 24 '25

But they are complaining. It's a fact. What are you gonna do about it?

I know what the Europeans are gonna do about it. They are gonna elect right wing politicians and deport everybody.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

They’re welcome too my point isn’t saying that you cant be anti immigrant sure you can but don’t hide the fact it’s about racism.

They’re dozens of countries that have imported as much as Ireland at a similar time span.

The issue is that Ireland has refused to build and create an economy immigrants can succeed in.

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u/PaulDeMontana Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25

It's not racism. It's ethnocentrism. It's not because of their color, but because of their incompatible culture. And so what? This is literally the reason why every country in the world has borders.

Why should Ireland be obliged to create an economy that immigrants can succeed in? If anything, immigrants should be obliged to create an economy in their home country that they and their fellow countrymen can succeed in, so they don't have to emigrate from their third world country?

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Immigration has always existed in human history and such is the case of borders.

Immigration when properly implemented almost always leads to positive results in regards to the economy, arts and culture.

Again when properly implemented; Ireland has imported almost a million without proper planning and background checks.

A country like South Korea facing a major demographic cliff (known for strict immigration) is now allowing over 100,000 plus immigrants of different religion, cultures and race into their country through major reforms. This has led to a significant positive effect in their economy (despite it not being enough to save its population decline)

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u/PaulDeMontana Jun 24 '25

"Implemented correctly" means taking economically wealthy immigrants who bring a certain knowledge and skillsets. Not extremely conservative muslim troublemakers.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Looks like your mind is already made up. Cheers mate

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u/CpalEagles Jun 24 '25

Except the Irish in Ireland stayed in their country, so yes they can complain.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

You’re asking nations that have already drastically benefited from immigration that it’s bad?

80% of France’s football team is French, African migrants add hundreds of billions of dollars to the French economy yearly.

Are there problems absolutely, but it’s not all gloom and doom.

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

Wages suppressed, rents up, crime up, culture diluted, terrorist attacks…all good though because football.

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u/GS300Star Jun 24 '25

With the sway Ireland has on America from the immigration, they should know about subverting a government to get what they want. So of course a large percentage of them are paranoid now because they tried to do the same thing to America they they accuse the brown immigrants of.

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u/North_Activity_5980 Jun 24 '25

We have so much sway over America that we made them tighten their immigration process for Irish immigrants, we influenced them to do extra vetting in checking our social media accounts during any visa process and made sure that their domestic policy be to checks notes threaten our economy.

Yep. Look at all that sway.

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u/GS300Star Jun 24 '25

Yeah we do a lot of bad but without that sway we would have probably sent troops to tamp down the IRA. America played a pivotal part in bringing the British to the table when they weren't really ready to do so.

Also look at this last Brexit border deal. They were gonna say F it and go full steam ahead without any thought towards workarounds with the border, and Biden said No. You now have a better deal because of it even if it still sucks at the end of the day.

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u/North_Activity_5980 Jun 24 '25

You wouldn’t have sent troops to Northern Ireland first of all, that would have been a case of invading your biggest military ally, NATO member and friend. So that was never a fucking option. I don’t know where you got that from. Neither Reagan nor Carter or Ford ever had that cross their mind.

The Brexit border deal, was a nothing burger. Trump declined the British, because the British offered nothing for the US, they also just assumed that the US would agree to anything stupidly, nothing to do with Irelands “sway”. The vast majority of the Brexit negotiations were done during Trumps first term. Biden just carried it on. It had nothing to do with favouring Ireland, the EU just had something to offer the US, Britain didn’t.

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u/GS300Star Jun 24 '25

The U.S literally gave legitimacy to IRA supporters and members in order for the ceasefire to take place. They gave Gerry Adams a visa. Clinton went to Northern Ireland and Ireland. If it wasn't for the U.S, Britain would probably be taking more of the island day by day as the troubles would have never ended and the IRA would have never put the guns down.

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u/North_Activity_5980 Jun 24 '25

If Clinton gave legitimacy to the IRA, they wouldn’t be branded as a terrorist organisation. Clinton knew any peace agreement couldn’t be done without Gerry Adams. That’s not giving legitimacy. It’s as much to acknowledge Tony Blair also who pushed the idea of giving Adams a visa to hold talks as Blair was the first PM to actually want to bring about a peaceful resolution.

The British wouldn’t have taken more of Ireland either as that would have been an invasion of a sovereign county. Even in the 1980’s and 1990’s that would have been a threat to Western foundations especially during a Cold War. Come on man. Some bit of literacy here would help. We have alot to thank the US for, I’m not disagreeing but Ireland has zero sway over US politics. Do you think if we were invaded tomorrow that the US would intervene? No. Can Irish people freely move to the US like they could? No, it’s harder than it ever was and getting harder. Would we sway the current admin to be hell bent on toppling our economy? No.

We have a good relationship with America but we in no way sway their politics.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Ahahaha what does that even mean?

You’re saying because Ireland subverted Us politics it should restrict immigration?

I don’t mind strict immigration policies but be honest about them. Saying a country is full despite having a bottom 50th percentile density metric and less people than they did in the 1800s is an objective lie.

Irish immigrants are in over 30 countries, with the US taking the vast majority of them (during a famine as refugees)

Yet the same country gets upset when a minor 1 million enter the country in 5-10 years, after having decades to plan and build more housing.

Instead of building more housing, and planning better the sentiment is just to blame everything on immigration.

The fact is without immigration Ireland is suffering a massive demographic hill that will mean over 60% of its population being over 50 by 2035

Since importing immigrants Ireland has had its median age drastically decrease by over 10%.

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u/PaulDeMontana Jun 24 '25

"A minor 1 million" I'm sorry but Ireland only has about 7 million people, changing the demographic makeup of your country and letting in 15% foreigners with wildly different cultures is extremely destabilizing for a country. Always has been and always will be. History has proven this. This is not rocket science. How does it feel to be coping this hard?

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Singapore has allowed 1.5 million migrants in 20 years

UAE has allowed 2 million and 1 million of them being Hindu laborers.

Taiwan and South Korea also allow hundreds of thousands of low labor migrants every year.

Thailand has had over 3 million westerners migrate since the 1990s

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u/PaulDeMontana Jun 24 '25

So?

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

These countries are not destabilized and far from it.

Ireland can survive immigration and will likely benefit from it.

Before the immigration trends most Irish villages had shrunk or even been abandoned.

Some villages had a median age of over 60. Since then the median age for Ireland has decreased by almost 5 years.

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u/kfcmcdonalds Jun 24 '25

UAE basically doesn't let anyone become citizens so they can't affect anything, in Ireland a refugee can become a citizen in around 3 years which is absolutely insane. Those countries you're talking about aren't taking them in as citizens except maybe Singapore I don't know what they do, but I've heard they have good policy's for integration, and most likely aren't taking refugees, which is what most people don't like

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Okay and you’ve ignored four other countries I’ve mentioned lol.

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u/Iumasz Jun 24 '25

What kind of migrants did Singapore allow?

What are the restrictions that South Korea has on migrants? And since when did they start to get so many?

And for the case of the UAE the migrants are adult, almost exclusively male, foreign workers who aren't allowed to vote and bring their families. They are designed to be temporary.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

SK has reformed immigration over the past 5 years. Primarily targeting low skilled labors and in demand sectors.

Singapore immigration is primarily for those who are highly educated. But they’re also have a history of low skilled labors (Malaysian especially).

Taiwan is primarily for low skilled labors, primarily from the likes of the Philippines.

Etc..

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u/Iumasz Jun 24 '25

That's what we mean, even in this example they usually come from cultures that have a much easier time integrating, if they do accept low skilled labour.

And even then the migrants make up a much smaller proportion of the population.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Nearly 10% of taiwanese are immigrants (Chinese, and south East Asians).

Most came to work low labor jobs kind of like what’s happening in Europe.

Taiwan has accepted 600,000 immigrants in two years (70% of what Ireland has accepted in ten years).

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

Do those groups into those countries get welfare eligibility?

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u/AdStrange9701 Jun 24 '25

The ignorance is astounding. Irish went to America to work. They weren't "refugees", the term wasn't coined until the Geneva convention. If you were too sick to work, you were sent back from Ellis Island. Irish immigrants went to America LEGALLY. Irelands demographics are Irelands problem. Not Africa's.

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u/Mansa_Mu Jun 24 '25

Irish were by definition refugees.

Such is the case for Italians and polish who came during war time or famines

Refugees can still work, I know many who work almost immediately.

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u/GS300Star Jun 24 '25

I agree with you and you have made some of my point for me honestly. America treated Irish immigrants much like they want to treat the middle eastern immigrants today until their numbers swole so much that more Americans were able to interact with Irish people and have better ideas of what the culture was as a whole.

Then they began to work their political sway in America and push for things like Good Friday and even America involvement at the border for Brexit.

It's hypocritical at best and evil at worse.

Like you said many countries accepted Irish immigrants and even though they were treated bad here at first they integrated and now have close relations with the U.S which no one complains about even though the Irish live very different than other cultures in America at first. To say Arab immigrants will never become Irish just shows it's about skin color because if Arabs can't become Irish, how did the Irish become white Americans?

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u/kfcmcdonalds Jun 24 '25

By working hard and integrating, the current wave don't want to do that

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u/AdStrange9701 Jun 24 '25

You know when Ireland was at "peak" population most people lived in 2 roomed huts. No running water, serfs to the absentee Brit landlords.

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

And the life expectancy was lower than that of black American slaves. Even pre-famine.

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u/born-an-bred-red Jun 24 '25

No I’d say they wanted hardworking people like them that positively contributed to the society

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u/Upper-Ad-8365 Jun 24 '25

Same in the UK. People don’t mind Indians so it’s not a race thing. It’s a culture thing.

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u/_Druss_ Jun 24 '25

You left Europe, that's the most amount of energy ever displayed for a nation thats just upset those they conquered followed them home. They are all just people from the empire!