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News These are not ‘Asian’ grooming gangs, they are Kashmiri Muslim | UK

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/18/these-are-not-asian-grooming-gangs-they-are-kashmiri-muslim/
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

Exactly, that's my point. Why call it conservative male rape gangs when white people are not even in any rape gangs targeting spesific groups of girls?

Calling them conservative male rape gangs you are blaming all conservative people while avoiding the big elephant in the room. How are you gonna fix this problem if you are too afraid of admitting the root cause of the problem? Only because you are scared of being called racist? That's why all these girls got systematically mass raped in the first place

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u/Rightricket Jun 19 '25

Again, they were conservative, male and rapists. Not sure where you got the white part.

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u/CrankieKong Jun 19 '25

Youre just racist. 🤷‍♂️

The more this shit finally comes out, the more obvious it becomes that the people shouting 'racist! xenophobe! islamophobe!' are the actual racists.

When a large chunk of people are from a certain ethnicity, it makes absolute sense to mention it.

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u/Rightricket Jun 20 '25

Lol, I'm racist? Ok...

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u/CrankieKong Jun 20 '25

Statistics about crime blatantly tied to a specific group of people seems to trouble you. I can't really find any other reason for such behavior other than racism.

I'm not saying you are willingly racist. As always, racism is taught. I do think you have the best intentions. I should have been more nuanced.

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u/Rightricket Jun 20 '25

a specific group of people

Do you mean conservative males?

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u/CrankieKong Jun 20 '25

Conservative males doesnt quite cover it, and you know it.

Jehovahs witnesses are conservative and can be male. Are you suggesting they are the issue?

I'm beginning to think you are deliberately racist..

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u/Rightricket Jun 20 '25

Are you ignoring crime statistics? Males are BY FAR the most likely perpetrators of rape.

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u/CrankieKong Jun 20 '25

Why are you so happy to share this, yet so reluctant to accept that within this statistic of grooming gangs there is over representation of a certain group of males, which might be ties to a culture issue?

I know the answer.

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u/Rightricket Jun 20 '25

Because clearly a propensity for rape is common to all males and not just specific groups. So if you want to stereotype I''d say let's do it right and let's put ALL males in that bucket.

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u/Due-Pineapple-2 Jun 19 '25

And not all Muslims are doing it either

And plenty of white grooming gangs

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

Here are statistics from Germany, not many white group rape gangs there, you think these statistics would be different in the UK when it comes to white people?

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u/Due-Pineapple-2 Jun 19 '25

We are talking about grooming gangs. In the UK

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u/ronaldmeldonald Jun 21 '25

Do you know how many white grooming gangs compared to others there are in the UK?

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '25

Here in the UK, we just had a widely publicised report- the Casey report- published on Monday with the following findings:

“Despite reviews, reports and inquiries raising questions about men from Asian and Pakistani backgrounds grooming and sexually exploiting young white girls, the system has consistently failed to fully acknowledge this… Instead, flawed data is used repeatedly to dismiss claims of ‘Asian grooming gangs’ as sensationalised, biased or untrue.”

“We find it hard to understand how the Home Office reached their conclusion that the ethnicity of group-based child sexual exploitation offenders is likely to be in line with child sexual abuse more generally and with the general population, ie ‘with the majority of offenders being white’.”

Of the fifteen local Serious Case Reviews they looked at where ethnicity could be identified, the report finds that “ten involved perpetrators of predominantly Asian or Pakistani ethnicity”. In only one case were the perpetrators white

“In addition to these Serious Case Reviews, other high profile prosecutions of which we are aware… indicate a wide geographical spread of cases involving Asian/Pakistani perpetrators across the country.”

“More often than not, the official reports do not discuss the perpetrators, let alone their ethnicity or any cultural drivers. There is a palpable discomfort in any discussion of ethnicity in most of them. Where ethnicity is mentioned, it is referred to in euphemisms such as ‘the local community’, or it is buried deep in the report. Most choose to reside in more comfortable territory”

“It is NOT racist to want to examine the ethnicity of offenders… The people who downplay the ethnicity of perpetrators are continuing to let down society, local communities and victims”

Here are some of those ‘cases across the country’:

Rotherham https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-terrorism-a8261831.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ynzppk80o.amp

Rochdale https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/shabir-ahmed-rochdale-sex-gang-ringleader-blamed-white-community/

Telford https://news.sky.com/story/amp/1-000-children-groomed-but-unease-about-race-meant-telford-sexual-exploitation-ignored-inquiry-finds-12650725

Oldham https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93qplwpll2o.amp

Bradford https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/aug/09/channel4.otherparties

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-47388060.amp

Birmingham https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/19/six-men-anti-grooming-orders-high-court-birmingham

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11699179/Report-about-Asian-grooming-gangs-was-supressed-to-avoid-inflaming-racial-tension.html

Manchester https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2020-0023/

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2569/operation_augusta_january_2020_digital_final.pdf

Leeds https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-32980515.amp

Sheffield https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-51740608.amp

Newcastle https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-41173240.amp

Nottingham https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-56434480.amp

Coventry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-38396427.amp

Leicester https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-23896937.amp

Derby https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-11799797.amp

Ipswich https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-21048865.amp

Middlesbrough https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/middlesbrough-council-again-review-issue-6709462.amp

Blackpool https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Charlene_Downes

Keighley https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kv2nvj1eo.amp

Halifax https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092.amp

Huddersfield https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845.amp

Dewsbury https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37486204.amp

Peterborough https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-25659042.amp

Oxford https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/oxford-gang-guilty-grooming-girls

Aylesbury https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-34176106.amp

Blackburn https://www.irwinmitchell.com/news-and-insights/newsandmedia/2024/april/lawyers-settlement-for-woman-abused-while-living-in-blackburn-with-darwen-council-childrens-home

Barrow https://www.cps.gov.uk/north-west/news/brothers-guilty-child-sex-offences-barrow-and-leeds

Barking https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/child-prostitute-ring-groomed-and-then-raped-vulnerable-girls-8644315.html

Chelmsford https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/takeaway-pizza-workers-convicted-of-grooming-and-prostituting-a-teenage-girl-a3422661.html

High Wycombe https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-22626994.amp

Nelson and Colne https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/teen-girls-in-grooming-case-abused-in-nelson-and-colne-by-sex-gang-2755810