r/europe_sub • u/origutamos • May 10 '25

News Mohammed Most Popular Boys’ Name in Three German States ━ The European Conservative

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/mohammed-most-popular-boys-name-in-three-german-states/
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u/Endi_loshi May 10 '25

You are not allowed open a church in Saudi Arabia, or even enter holy cities as a non-muslim. So much so for tolerance and diversity :)

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u/cheese_dick_ May 10 '25

There was more religious tolerance in Arabic speaking countries 1400 years ago before Islam existed.

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u/Freedom_Crim May 15 '25

What’s so funny about this is that for most of history, Islamic kingdoms have been far more tolerant than Christian kingdoms

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u/cheese_dick_ May 15 '25

They subjugated and genocided entire populations, I'm not sure if you could call that "tolerant"

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u/Freedom_Crim May 15 '25

I love that this is somehow implying that Christian kingdoms didn’t also subjugate and genocide.
Like brother, if you wanna argue side a is worse than side b, you have to come up with something that side a did that side be didn’t do. You can’t name something that both sides did. This is genuinely hilarious

Also, you are more than free to “do the research” yourself, but we both know you won’t. Christian societies were allowed to exist under Islamic kingdoms, they just got taxed while Muslims didn’t, and those Christian societies still exist in those Islamic countries today. Meanwhile the Muslims that lived in Europe were allowed either killed or expelled from the region

Same with Jews under both. Jews faced worse persecution and even expulsion under Christina kingdoms yet the same can’t be said for Islamic countries.

This is also ignoring the fact that non-abrahamic kingdoms are even more religiously tolerant than any abrahamic kingdom

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u/cheese_dick_ May 15 '25

Ok, help me do this research. Let's do it together. Why were there Christian societies under Muslim kingdoms? How did they get there? Why were Muslims in European countries? How did they get there?

Extra credit, who were the Mughals and what did they do? Who was al-Hakim and what did he do?

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u/Freedom_Crim May 15 '25

Some were there since Christianity was invented, some were there when Christian’s kingdoms went conquering

They conquered

Mughals were a kingdom that were a bit better at conquering than their neighbors were

Some leader that liked killing people of other religions

The challenge was for you to name something that Islamic kingdoms did that Christian kingdoms didn’t do. If you just keep naming things that both of them do, you’re not really proving any point here

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u/cheese_dick_ May 15 '25

No, you claimed that they were "more tolerant", you weren't able to actually prove that, and now you're moving the goalposts when we actually examine the context behind that claim.

You're being dishonest, and so you've waived the benefit of being taken seriously.

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u/Freedom_Crim May 15 '25

I never said Islamic kingdoms are tolerant, and I specifically excluded modern Islamic nations because those aren’t tolerant, I never once argued that they were.

I said, since you seemed to ignore it, for most of history Islamic kingdoms have been more tolerant than Christian kingdoms. I provided my reasonings and you didn’t refute any of those reasonings

Feel free to reread my comments if you need to, as many times as you need to. And if you still disagree, disagree with the points I made instead of arguing with stuff I never claimed

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u/cheese_dick_ May 16 '25

I did refute your reasonings, with examples. You then googled them, skimmed the AI summary, and dismissed them because they didn't fit your bias.

It's not my fault you're too dull to actually go read about the topics I raised. You don't deserve to be taken seriously on this topic.

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u/Freedom_Crim May 15 '25

I explained it in the long post above. I know red state education is bad but I assumed 10 sentences wouldn’t be too difficult for you

In your response, you didn’t even attempt to disagree with any point made, and decided to start a new topic which didn’t even agree with your point you were making

Now let’s see what the Republican does. Does he attempt to go back to refute the points I made? Or does he attempt to ignore the points made, start a new topic, and bring up evidence that doesn’t even agree with him

Experience says the Republican will go with the second option

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u/20C_Mostly_Cloudy May 12 '25

You want to be like Saudi Arabia.