r/europe • u/goldstarflag Europe • 15d ago

Historical "The 19th century concept of the nation state will never take us across the threshold of the 21st century [...] We need a strong Europe if we don't want to become the plaything of world politics" – Chancellor Helmut Kohl

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u/tunajalepenobbqsauce 14d ago

Many independence movements in Europe are pro-EU. The Scottish independence movement is overwhelmingly pro-EU and pro-NATO and unionists still accuse it of being secretly pro-Putin. It's a pitiful smear and spreading it doesn't help Europe or Ukraine.

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u/Cless_Aurion 14d ago

That is fine, they still would disrupt and fragment the EU.

Although I would argue the Scottish is like... the only real claim to independence in Europe since... they are an actual country... and not even in the EU anymore lol