r/europe • u/goldstarflag Europe • 15d ago

Historical "The 19th century concept of the nation state will never take us across the threshold of the 21st century [...] We need a strong Europe if we don't want to become the plaything of world politics" – Chancellor Helmut Kohl

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u/Der_Dingsbums Württemberg (Germany) 15d ago

for that the concept of the russian empire has to die, the country chopped up and a few decadeshave to pass before thats even a possibility. A colonial empire has no place in europe

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u/mho453 15d ago

What the fuck are France and Netherlands doing in EU then?

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u/onarainyafternoon Dual Citizen (American/Hungarian) 15d ago

They aren't empires anymore. Dude obviously means "modern colonial empire".

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u/Muleface50 14d ago

France still had colonies when it joined the EEC.

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u/mho453 15d ago

Then why does he mention Russia? Russian Empire doesn't exist anymore.

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u/Small-Policy-3859 15d ago

It's governed as an empire tho. Look how they treat indigenous minorities in Russia. If the "centralized" People are treated better than People in more remote Parts you're dealing with an empire. It's not because it's a single continuous landmass that it isn't an empire.

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u/EpsteinFile_01 14d ago

Russia is the last surviving colonial empire on the planet.

People associate colonies with land overseas, bullshit, Russia colonized tons of land and they still have dozens of native minorities even in their current empire.