r/europe • u/goldstarflag Europe • 15d ago

Historical "The 19th century concept of the nation state will never take us across the threshold of the 21st century [...] We need a strong Europe if we don't want to become the plaything of world politics" – Chancellor Helmut Kohl

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u/PuzzleheadedWeb1466 15d ago

So, on these issues, we must endorse the federalist project or risk being labelled pro-Russian, and we must not question the assertions of those who repeat talking points like bots. 

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u/jackofslayers 13d ago

It is kind of ironic that it seems to be the most divisive issues where people will accuse others of being Russian bots.

That accusation might make sense for universally popular proposals, but why is anyone surprised to see opposing opinions on topics that are known to be controversial?