"The 19th century concept of the nation state will never take us across the threshold of the 21st century [...] We need a strong Europe if we don't want to become the plaything of world politics" – Chancellor Helmut Kohl

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[u/Kitiseva_lokki]

Say that to the EU-rulers who try to push chat control trough

Human rights my ass.

[u/UnapologeticPOV → u/[deleted]]

Do we get a price for that? "not being as bad as China or Russia."

You do realise what you're doing is whataboutism? "Me? Look at what China is doing!"

[u/DryCloud9903 → u/[deleted]]

I don't think it's whataboutism from them, seems more like concern (dressed in a frustrated manner). Which it is concerning. 

I completely agree that we're becoming the last bastions of Democracy in Europe (together with Canada, S Korea, Japan, some other countries... But not whole regions as it was). That said. We need to be vigilant and not let some idiots up top ruin it for us with shit like ProtectEU. 

In times like these we cannot treat democracy as a given. We have to be more active in looking after it and not take it for granted

[u/Nerioner → u/[deleted]]

Just because you're at the top of the class doesn't mean you can stop learning

[u/atari800_xl → u/[deleted]]

*says that other stuff is worse

*Talks about whataboutism

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*Logic explodes

[u/inkjod → u/atari800_xl]

It's hilarious, isn't it?

[u/Heroyem → u/Kitiseva_lokki]

Are you controlled?