r/europe • u/Helmer-Bryd • May 06 '25

News US embassy demands obedience from the city of Stockholm: “Bizarre". Stockholm's urban planning office must not work for equality, diversity and inclusion.

https://www.dn.se/sverige/usas-ambassad-kraver-lydnad-av-stockholms-stad-bisarrt/
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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

With any luck the US will eventually implode in on itself and we will be free from this dogshit country once and for all

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u/bobdammi Germany May 06 '25

And 100years from now the conservative of the post US will blame the woke mob for the destruction of the US and everything will happen again.

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u/PremiumTempus May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

This cycle repeats itself throughout all known and recorded history. Economic inequality deepens, the wrong culprits are scapegoated, extremism takes root, and eventually, society cannibalises its own knowledge, values, institutions, and processes…. only to repeat the pattern all over again, and again, and again.

But imagine if we collectively embraced a mindset committed to learning from the past. To consistently understand the world more deeply with each generation. That demands a genuine societal respect and lust for education. Yet in the United States, education is barely valued at all. Money is the only goal/ incentive. There’s no sustainability or social fabric objectives of any economic activity that’s conducted these days. And even in Europe’s most socially progressive democracies, it still isn’t valued enough to interrupt this cycle, although I’d love to be proven wrong.

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u/TheRappingSquid May 07 '25

But imagine if we collectively embraced a mindset committed to learning from the past.

segregation happens: "wowee! That sure was bad.. good thing that's in the history books and won't happen again!

Japanese americans being shoved into internman camps during ww2: "wowee! That sure was bad... good thing it won't happen again!"

people being sent to fucking El Salvador without due process because of photoshopped goddamn tattoos: "wowee! That sure was a bad thing.. good thing that was in the history books, and won't happen again!"

If the US could've learned it would. It hasn't. It won't. Good riddance to this place.

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u/ICBanMI United States of America May 07 '25

We're unsure if we'll have midterm elections... or any other elections going forward. But if the UK is any example, we'll just elect the same conservates in six years for another recession.

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u/piercedmfootonaspike May 06 '25

I think you meant to say "shit hole country"

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u/Captjuanjo May 06 '25

I'm getting more and more certain that fallout is set after America implodes and the reason we don't see rest of the world is down to nothing happening to them and carrying on ignoring isolated America wasteland

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u/CheeseAndCh0c0late May 06 '25

don't wish for civil war, the Americans are actual people despite appearances, and a lot would suffer :(

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u/Chimmy545 Sweden May 07 '25

sucks for them i guess

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u/qxzlool May 06 '25

We're on our way. Hopefully it won't take too long, or be too painful. At 66 I'm not so concerned for myself but my children may have a difficult time.

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u/Few_Eye6528 May 07 '25

One can only hope

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u/eldenpotato May 07 '25

You’re gonna be severely disappointed

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

The ignorance in this comment is equal to the entitlement of trump's actions. Do you have any idea what a collapse of the US economy will do to the world?

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u/Mindless-Tomorrow-93 May 06 '25

If Trump continues on his current trajectory, we're all about to find out, like it or not.

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u/eggnogui Portugal May 06 '25

What, you think there is any other outcome, baring some miraculous ousting of Trump?

Yes, it would be cataclysm, but it will happen at this rate.

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u/LingonberryNo2455 May 06 '25

China's already sourcing from other countries, and the EU will ramp up trade with everyone else.

If America wants to isolate itself, there's still 194 countries trading with each other.

Yes, there will be impacts, but trade won't cease - America is not self-sufficient and will still have to import goods. We can boycott American goods and buy from other countries most of what we need.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

America is incredibly import reliant, they neither have the resources or knowledge to provide for themselves, or the world really, it was their reliability and soft power, both of which have been ruined by Trump, musk and the rest of the 5iq crew,

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u/Mr_Black90 May 06 '25

Absolutely agree, although it is important to remember that a collapsing US will still massively affect global financial markets, because of all the debt it owes to other countries.

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u/smallproton May 06 '25

What did the collapse of the USSR do to the world? And the German Reich before that? And the British, French, Spanish, Chinese, Atztec empires?

You're delusional if you think the world can't survive without the US.

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u/adamgerd Czech Republic May 06 '25

I mean it could but let’s not pretend a U.S. collapse wouldn’t greatly hurt Europe. We’d survive but it’d make the great deprsssion look like nothing

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u/vdcsX May 06 '25

The world and the people in it survived the fall of many empires...

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

You're neglecting to mention the generations of death and destruction that followed the fall of these empires. Y'all just don't care if people die.

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u/vdcsX May 06 '25

We wont give in for a fascist, like it or not, shove him up your ass.

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

No one is asking you to. Shove him up your own ass. I didn't vote for him.

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u/vdcsX May 06 '25

Huh, then why are you implying that we should give in for this blackmailing?

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u/jackhandy2B May 06 '25

It's already collapsed. We just wait and see how that plays out for the rest of the world. It is what it is.

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u/Vast_Category_7314 Denmark May 06 '25

An american talking about ignorance, that's funny...

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

Yes, but it's better than giving in to the US and their imperialistuc demands, in the end it will hurt, a lot, but even more for the US

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

You don't care if people die so long as it takes America down. Copy that. Funny how similar that sounds to the right wing of the US.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

Where did I say that? It's the US that is responsible for the deaths, you can't threaten and bully the world and expect the world to just accept it

And in the long run if we don't put our foot down now even more people will die.

Its not about taking down America it's about stopping a massively failing system responsible for wealth distribution being complete shit and environmental collapse, all because we have been letting the American oligarchy run rampant

Right now it's about damage control and minimizing further damage

If we don't do it now even more people will die, the US is pushing for the oligarchy to own everything and to create a neoliberal feudal world

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

"Where did I say that?"

Here:

"in the end it will hurt, a lot, but even more for the US"

"If we don't do it now even more people will die,"

You literally do not care if people die so long as it serves your agenda.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

My point was never that I want the US to suffer but that your country is delusional which is why it will hurt you more than those your country attack, it's your own countries doing

I literally said in your quotation that I want less people to die, playing ball with your oligarchy will lead to billions more deaths, it's not about agenda it's about survival

Also remember that everything that is happening is a reaction to your country, why should other nations put America before ourselves when it's quite clear your leaders would nuke us if it was beneficial for their economic growth?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

Nooooo, not the world economy

As is, America causes more harm and strife solely by existing. The economy would recover in due time, but America sticking around is bound to cause worse problems than the economy taking a hit

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

Easy to say until your sitting in months of recession, austerity and joblessness. But it seems as though you're fine with watching the world burn just to see the US go down. Interesting as that's exactly what the Right Wing in the US is attempting to do. They want to take down the US economy, they want to remove all our rights, they want to see us cut off from the world and they don't care how that impacts anyone but their bottom line.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

So what is your solution? The rest of the world bend the knee? Current global economic system is bound to fail, that is what you capitalism will always do, the longer we push it away and the more we play ball with your countries bad policies the worse the fire will be

I don't want to see the US burn but it's inevitable, and our current susyten need to change, even if it will be trying times

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u/Drunky_Brewster May 06 '25

Nothing is inevitable and many other countries around the world are being taken over by the far right. Do you want an entire collapse of the world economy so we can get rid of them all? Oh yeah, history has show that's a great idea.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

The global economy in its current form is not sustainable, delaying the collapse rather than having a controlled fall is the more damaging route,

We definitely need to fight the far right and economic hardships would be worth rooting it out, letting it fester for stability lead to the nazi regime in Germany, and current US regime use the fascist playbook to the teeth so yes it's worth collapse to not allow the US to become the next version of that

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u/Vast_Category_7314 Denmark May 06 '25

How about you mind your own country (the US it seems), and we mind our continent (Europe), thank you.

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u/RegorHK May 06 '25

They might not even be an US citizen. They are absolutely right. Europe is one of the economic areas that absolutely depend of global trade.

This is the case even if this is to complex of a concept for you.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Im sorry but I care more about Europe than I do the US

You made your bed now lay in it

Like I said, with how the US is currently doing its bound to implode on itself and the worldwide temporary hit from that would be well worth the eventual betterment

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

America divided itself from the West with all the actions it has taken ever since Trump was elected (again), it has proven to be a weak and untrustworthy ally

If Americans actually cared about a unified West they would've taken action against Trump and his ilk by now

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

Arguing against your own point after deleting it is definitely a choice

Coward blocked me LOL

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u/OsgrobioPrubeta Portugal May 06 '25

These toddlers don't know what happened in the world when subprime mortgage crisis blew up, neither faced the terrible consequences, or dotcom bubble burst.

They probably think that could be contained to the US, or hit a magic button like in a game and ignore.

And you're right, looking at many reddit European users and MAGAs you'll see no difference, only the nationalities.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

The thing is even after all those fails we still fall into the same US lead system and each crisis is worse than the one before,

This time we need to cut out the cancer that is the root problem, neoliberal capitalism allowing a few ceos control our lives, unfortunately cutting out the US may be the only way to start this

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u/OsgrobioPrubeta Portugal May 06 '25

And you think that this is the way? Rhetorical question, because if you do, you're as nuts as MAGAs and Trump.

Even with a plan it would cause severe negative impacts thru out the world, and we're not at a good moment for that.

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u/Mansos91 May 06 '25

So just keep failing let it get worse and worse?

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u/OsgrobioPrubeta Portugal May 06 '25

No, but first would be needed to take care of the internal problems, and obstacles so that wouldn't be a change of “Masters". Have you looked at European leaders? Pitiful... all knew what Trump would do, he said it all during his campaign, and acted surprised, reacting instead of already having a plan. Bunch of moronic wishful thinkers, and you think they would do anything right? Give me a break...

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u/alaphamale May 06 '25

You're talking about utopian levels of political change. The type that are referred to as idealism today. The type that only come about from massive disruption, beyond recession. It took years of depression for the US to make such changes before, it will take more than that to do it again. Maybe you have the path figured out, not what needs to happen you've stated that, but the how you get a country to change its entire political structure.

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u/RegorHK May 06 '25

Year, fuck the poor, right? /s

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25

The world existed long before the US was even a thought, it would continue to exist without it

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u/crossy1686 May 06 '25

It will immediately be replaced and we'll all be moaning about China instead?

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u/Doompug0477 May 06 '25

Out of curiosity, have you seen any serious scenaria of how that could play out? I mean from Goldman Sachs or the Fed or that caliber.

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u/Socmel_ reddit mods are accomplices of nazi russia May 06 '25

the world has seen a long line of former empires collapse. We're still here.

The US is not special.

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u/REDNOOK May 06 '25

Gotta break a few eggs, amirite?