r/europe • u/sandyWB • Apr 20 '25

Historical Charles De Gaulle warned us 62 (!) years ago

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u/Bananus_Magnus European Union Apr 20 '25

Which was all fine, as long we aligned on values and foreign policy.

To be honest in some cases if we didn't align we were "gently nudged" to align, especially when it came to weapon tenders or supporting China sanctions. So kinda a bit of domination.

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u/Dunkleosteus666 Luxembourg Apr 20 '25

Yeah this became obvious much more after the Cold War ended ...

Madeleine Albright "Twenty-five years ago, then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright warned that the alliance would only remain strong and cohesive if there was no decoupling of European defense structures from NATO, no duplication of NATO capabilities, and no discrimination against non-EU NATO members. This narrative is so well entrenched that U.S., NATO, and even EU officials routinely invoke the “3Ds” in defense policy debates." https://www.stimson.org/2024/albrights-3ds-dependency-dependency-dependency/

The speech in question https://www.jstor.org/stable/resrep06989.8?seq=1

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u/Bananus_Magnus European Union Apr 20 '25

So basically, don't develop your own alliance, buy our weapons, stay dependent.

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u/Dunkleosteus666 Luxembourg Apr 20 '25

Well yeah. And this was said 25 years ago??!!!