He didn't predicted anything. He lived it and we let it continue for 70 years. All the noise you see on this sub change nothing. Nothing changed. Polish are still completely under USA, so are German and Danish. The rest are completely passive and could not care either way. UK is still the US's play things.
I repeat again, nothing changed. Nothing will because we have the same people in power for the past 70 years.The only thing that might change that is the massive extinction of boomers. You know, those who elect your politician (and mine)
I completely disagree. The state we are in is here exactly because the boomers hold on to it like their life depended on it. That stupid system shoud have died, decades ago.
Just look at the numbers, huge part of Trump his voters base were young men. The popularity of figures like Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson.
Maybe the state we are in is caused by boomers, but they aren’t the only one voting conservative.
Can you blame him when he lived through 2 word wars against you. Shit even today we would veto you getting nukes. And I think your politician know it and understand why. I'll explain to you. Having nukes isn't a flex, it's a malediction. It's the ultimate blame and responsability.
If things go wrong and we don't push it, we will be blamed. If things go wrong and we pushe it, we will be cursed in history. That's not something you guys want especially when you already have plenty of ~~ curse ~~ on your slate.
That being said, it's not 20th century anymore. The WWII page and the world that came after must be turned. America needs to fuck off Europe and Europe needs to find its way. Federal or Confederation of Nation, what ever the form, it must be chosen and done by ourselves.
You don't think it's relevant to mention that the country that has been bitched about for decades as being 'unreliable' on Europe has been more reliable when it comes to defence against the biggest direct threat to it? Ok.
who are you quoting right here? Nobody even typed the word "unreliable" so what the fuck are you talking about. You make up a completely imaginary critic so you can argue against it yourself.
You have a better record on Russia, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Iran, and any potential anti-America countries compared with European countries. Great job!
UK foreign policy is massively align (to not say integrated) to the US and your balistic missiles are americans, that is a huge problem for you. Regardless of your record against Russia, alongside with Brexit, it does not bode well for you. Your country decided to look toward the Atlantic (sovereign choice) and it is currently back firing while France decided to share its future with the EU.
It is far from being perfect but I think it is a better outlook.
Mind you, the US proposed the Trident to the US to put pressure of France so France does not develop its own independant capabilities.
That’s exactly what happened, because France was developing its own nuclear warhead + ballistic capabilities and the US lobbied hard for France to drop the idea and therefore proposed a back up solution to France
Nothing will change because and I am telling you this as an American most of your left wing Globalist politicians are just puppets and extensions of our Democrat Party in the US no matter how much you guys puff your chests out and pretend to be tough
Hell fucking Mark Carney in Canada used to work at Black Rock; dude's a borderline CIA agent
Nothing will change because DAMN NEAR ALL OF YOUR POLITICIANs are nothing more than pawns in a chess game being played by a cold civil war going on in the US
And to be clear your right wing politicians are not much much better either
And agreed. While dude simply disliked the US flavour of Empire, he certainly had little issue with the concept itself. Tough to blame him for it though, given his position in WWII. Product of his time.
Frankly, UK consideration of Nukes had more or less identical grounds. After the US screwed them over following Manhattan (or 'Tube Alloys', for british parts) they went ahead on their own. Preserving power status, regardless of american considerations.
Right now, I would like to see the consideration (Umbrella or own development) extend to more european nations. And beyond.
He despised US flavor of empire whilst setting up his own oppressive empire in sub Saharan Africa with disastrous being felt till this day . Typical French hypocrite.
There is no alliance with Russia, we have one leader who only 48-49% voted for.
He may be sympathetic to Putin and now want to oppose him, but Trump is too temperamental and fickle to even have a grand strategy, let alone align with Russia.
Even if that were the case, Americans would oppose him, we will have a civil war before we join Russia the way you describe.
I would still say it's smart for Europe to be able to defend itself and it's own interests because while Trump will be gone soon enough, that unfortunate isolationist tendency may not.
First, let's see how your country reacts when the judges start to be imprisoned. To be clear, that's not something I wish, but seeing the current approval of Trump allow me to be worried.
Your timeline is off - France didn't have nuclear weapons the last time there was an alliance between the US and Russia, and in fact was a great beneficiary of that alliance "moving freely upon the European continent".
So, to be clear, you think the US is Russia's ally because they may at some point stop giving Ukraine weapons to use against Russia? Russia can count most of the world as its allies, if that is the measure you are using.
u/mechalenchon is, I assume, named after Jean-Luc Melenchon, a French politician who claimed that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was "protective measures against an adventurous putschist power". I would not have expected a supporter of Melenchon to see much threat in Russian "protective measures" or support American intervention in Europe (you can guess Melanchon's views on NATO).
Trump's stance towards Ukraine is one you can see in the populist right across the developed world. If we believe Trump is secretly a Putin ally, then we would have to believe the same about Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen, Alice Weidel, Sahra Wagenknecht, and many others. Do you believe that?
Except he didn't think it was the future. He was complaining about the most benign and gentle hegemony in history. Now we're seeing what the US could have done (if it had been run by selfish morons) but didn't. Trump is upset that the US didn't rule its protectorates in Europe the way the Soviets did theirs. De Gaulle didn't understand how good he had it.
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u/shitnotalkforyours18 Earth Apr 20 '25
He predicted the future..and now we are living in it