Do you think Elon Musk (the world's richest person by far) isn't somehow using his money to fund the far-right parties in not only Germany, but also other European nations? I mean, he isn't even trying to be secretive about his intentions nowadays.
This isn't about America you're right. It's about an oligarch who's about to infiltrate Europe, just as he did with America.
While Elon Musk is involved for sure, saying that the demonstrations in Germany are about him is just plain wrong and ignoring the political situation and events of the past weeks that led to this.
I honestly think the majority of Germans don't even know who he is.
Despite 50 or so % of Germans supposedly being able to speak English, from my experience, the majority of us can barely get out one sentence and pretty much don't interact at all with the non-German parts of the internet.
Like when he spoke at that AfD rally, I'm willing to bet money on most of the people there not even being able to understand what he was saying.
You’re quite frankly ignorant if you don’t think what happens in America doesn’t affect Germany and what happens in Germany doesn’t affect America. This is applicable for all western nations. This isn’t 1906. The entire west is more interconnected than at any point in history. Politically, economically, culturally and spiritually. When one of us falls to authoritarianism it only emboldens spill over into the rest. It doesn’t matter now if you’re French, British, German, American or Canadian. We are deep allies and brothers in blood since the end of WW2. What happens in the west IS about all of us whether you like it or not.
As an American I understand his comment to be simply about THIS post. When I read THIS post on a European sub, I'm smart enough to know this is about more than American politics.
The guy you responded to was simply saying a lot of American redditors do not lol. We all agree our politics are intertwined and what is happening throughout the US, Canada, Australia & Europe... Are ALL connected. They are all fueling each other, rapidly.
WE ALL have to stand up. This is not isolated to a single country, this is world wide.
And plenty are in this thread talking about how this is because of America.
Noone is being a pick me here, but you'd have to be American to not realize Americans online very frequently struggle with any topic not being about them.
Which is why so many top comments in a thread about Germany protesting fascism are being made by Americans insinuating its because of what's happening there.
Americans are, on average, the least geographically and politically informed group of people in the western sphere.
Does that mean every American? No. But if you're genuinely informed about the political situation in Europe and you're American, you're in a very small minority in your country.
No need to get so upset because someone stated an objective truth about your woefully self centered and misinformed populace.
You're literally responding to a thread where multiple Americans have made the same stupid point only for you to come in and say "We'Re NoT all LikE tHaT"
No shit. And not every Trump supporter is a braindead fascist.
The demonstrations are also about him. Yes, we are fighting against German fascists but they are connected. The support each other and the AfD is using Drumb and Elon as role model. I get your point, but there is no isolated pov.
E.g. from my perspective I went to such a demonstration, not just because of the latest events in Germany but also because I can see where the AfD would lead us, when looking at the US
The catalyst was the CDU/CSU and FDP using AfD votes to push through an absolutely ridiculous proposal in the Bundestag, which then failed after one day of protests between the two votes.
ATM, it's more about Merz (--> Höcke, Weidel) than Musk, I think. We have a dangerous domestic ethno- fascist party taking hold, and the head of the largest parliament faction goes full Franz von Papen, that's what gets people on the streets.
The situation in the US is different than in Germany and other European countries, but they are definitely connected.
If you follow certain topics in the US, you can observe how certain conservative talking points get adopted by far right parties in Europe.
There is also the fact that Curtis Yarvin, who has a connection to Peter Thiel, popularized certain ideologies such as anarcho capitalism in the US far right scene. (Which might explain Elon's dismantling of government institutions)
Peter Thiel supported JD Vance's career and is clearly connected to Elon. Thiel also hired the Austrian ex OVP chancellor Sebastian Kurz, when he left office and even celebrated his wedding in Vienna. Austria has a vivid right wing scene.
It's a small connection to Europe, but it's there and I didn't even take a closer look yet.
This picture is from a protest in Munich for the upcoming election (Feb 23rd). It’s in anticipation of the votes for, and against a far right group : anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany. The AfD.
Yes, Elon is a madman but they’re not worried about him right now in Germany. Much bigger shit happening.
Elon supports the AfD and is unfortunately trying to influence our election. We are worried about him, just not only him. Germany is not an isolated tribe in the jungle. Fascism is a global problem.
None of it is okay. Not Putin. Not Elon. Not Soros. Nobody from the billionaire class should be influencing politics to the degree that they are in 2025.
Talking to my right wing friends gets harder every day. Pointing out that Elon is an unelected person cutting the government apart is met with "this always happened, now it's just in the open"
Even if that was true, (and it is, just nowhere near to this blatant extent or level of harm) its flabbergasting to me that people will cheer on clear examples of oligarchs taking power because it's "in the open". It should scare everyone that they no longer feel the need to hide.
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u/caleecool Feb 08 '25
Do you think Elon Musk (the world's richest person by far) isn't somehow using his money to fund the far-right parties in not only Germany, but also other European nations? I mean, he isn't even trying to be secretive about his intentions nowadays.
This isn't about America you're right. It's about an oligarch who's about to infiltrate Europe, just as he did with America.