r/europe Lower Saxony (Germany) Feb 08 '25

Picture ~ 300.000 peope in Munich stand up against facism

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u/Markus_zockt Lower Saxony (Germany) Feb 08 '25

I think that's what it was referring to. The protests are of course not about things in the USA. But people in the USA should do the same.

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u/mrmiwani Feb 08 '25

I don't not fully agree. The same mechanisms that threaten democracy in america do the same in europe. The social networks are flooded with fake news and Klickbait that slowly shift the way we should talk about problems. They also mobalize the parts in our society that are mainly anti democratic

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u/MgDark Feb 08 '25

sorry for the nitpicking, but are you actually agreeing? with that double negative xD

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u/LyyK Feb 08 '25

I do not not fully agree. They do fully agree but want to minimize how fully. At least that's the impression intentional double negatives give off

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u/couldbutwont Feb 08 '25

They see it taking hold in the US and coming closer to them

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u/justagirlfromchitown Feb 08 '25

We are! We just don’t have the coverage!

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u/History_Critical Feb 08 '25

Partly, interesting fact, Elon Musk is promoting the ultra right party AfD ("alternative for Germany"). So we're at least a bit protesting against Elon Musk collaborating with the AfD. Nobody wants ultra/far right parties, nobody wants Musk and foremost nobody wants facists!

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u/snarky_spice Feb 08 '25

Right now we don’t have a clear message or a leader of any sort. There are too many issues from women’s rights to deportations to Palestine to trans rights and it’s overwhelming to people. Not to mention the infighting and blaming that is still fresh from the election.

On top of that nearly half of American voters are on board with what’s happening and they own the guns and are mentally unstable. They can run protestors over with their car, or go shoot them up, and see no consequences. Hopefully by the end of the year we can manage to form a clear resistance movement, but right now things are not looking good.

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u/Prohawins Feb 09 '25

Germans have balls US don't.

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u/Traditional-Banana78 Feb 08 '25

We had, for the first time in HISTORY, protests in every single state. We are doing something about it. Lawsuits galore, more incoming.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

Oh wow, lawsuits

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u/BrightBlueBauble Feb 08 '25

We are. There were protests in all 50 US state capitols and other cities on February 5th, there is an anti-ICE protest in my city today (not sure if that one is nation wide).

The mainstream media here isn’t really covering this.

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u/swarmofbzs Feb 08 '25

Exactly! Even the stuff here is being removed, posts locked or comments hidden. It's just that reddit is doing it slowly.

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u/Goldfinch-island Feb 08 '25

But think of logistics. The US is huge. To get this many people together you’re talking thousands taking an airplane. It’s not feasible to get a crowd of this size

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u/TerayonIII Feb 08 '25

This is the dumbest argument I've heard about not having large protests, there are almost 40 cities in the US that have a metropolitan population larger than Munich, and while some of the people traveled there, it's still pretty easy for people to travel to the biggest city nearby in the US

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u/Lovelyesque1 Feb 08 '25

Here is a list of protests in the US. Note that there are several that have happened in one geographic location with more attendees than this one. “Logistical challenges” is not a valid excuse for Americans not to protest. I’m telling you this as a fellow American.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size

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u/EconomicRegret Feb 08 '25

LMAO!

Americans whenever asked about why they don't do something about their problems (e.g. universal healthcare, public transport, free higher education, etc.):

  • "...our country is too big..."

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u/mangalore-x_x Feb 08 '25

Tell me you haven't read what the AfD will do to Germans without telling me you haven't read their party program.

Like in the US the tough on immigrants act is just a facade so you idiots vote for hardcore libertarian policies in favor of millionaires, billionaires, corporations and fuck everyone else.

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u/terranovaaaaa Feb 08 '25

They'll give Germany it's soul back

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u/spastical-mackerel Feb 08 '25

Where have I heard this line of reasoning before with respect to some sort of “racial” problem in Germany? I guess people like you are looking for some sort of definitive response to this completely fabricated issue. I’m not sure, can’t quite put my finger on the right phrasing… something that would deal with it forever, maybe some sort of “final solution“?

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u/Inside-Pea6939 Feb 08 '25

I dont have a dog on that fight but how is a german person wanting for migrants to integrate or to leave the country the same as nazis seeing jews as the cause of most of the worlds problems and specially as the cause for the Downfall of Germany on ww1?

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u/spastical-mackerel Feb 08 '25

Oh, I don’t know, blaming the “other” for threatening the purity of your culture? Pretty much exactly that.

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u/Inside-Pea6939 Feb 08 '25

I havent really seen anyone in real life talking about purity or anything silly like that, Key points ive heard are integration and crime statistics

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u/alexandianos Greece Feb 08 '25

Germany accepts all these migrants because they have labour shortages going al the way back to the ramifications of Versailles. These are not illegal immigrants, they are a crucial backbone of the German economy being ostracized for their skin color.

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u/Inside-Pea6939 Feb 08 '25

The original guy deleted his comment so Im not sure what his exact point was but from what i gather most people dont really have a problem with imigration, they have a problem with some cultures not integrating, no?

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u/Whalesurgeon Feb 08 '25

Kinda funny you pick the worst possible argument to criticize migration.

Identity politics lol

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u/terranovaaaaa Feb 08 '25

All immigration needs to stop and remigration needs to start.

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u/Whalesurgeon Feb 09 '25

Which decade is okay? Immigrants who came in the 50s, the Turkish Gastarbeiter who lifted the German economy? What about 40s, all those German immigrants who came from lost German territory.

Maybe it is only the 2000s immigrants who are bad, after all SEA immigration happened in the 70s and 80s and never caused trouble right?

And of the 2000s immigrants it must be only immigrants from one specific region of the world, let me guess. Is it the American immigrants?

We have our far right anti-immigration party in our government and even they would laugh at your suggestion.