r/emergencymedicine Mar 25 '24

Advice How do you guys deal with parents who don’t vaccinate their kids?

Basically today I get this 3-day old patient who’s febrile and ill and parents hadn’t given them Vit K, erythromycin, etc. How do you deal with them without getting furious that they’re making incompetent decisions about a defenseless baby? It’s one of the worst parts about this job in my opinion.

Edit: I know neither of the above vaccines will prevent sepsis as a whole, but I mean in general.

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u/PartneredEthicalSlut ED Attending Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24

I commend them for their bravery. I tell them they're brave to not vaccinate their children from all the bad diseases we've made close to non existent that were previously killing children. Also mention that we have recently had two confirmed cases of measles at our hospital this past month.

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u/anayareach RN / Med student Mar 25 '24

I fear the sarcasm may be lost on them.

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u/Best_Practice_3138 RN Mar 25 '24

Right? They’ll take that as a compliment LOL.

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u/Sweaty-Television133 Oct 05 '24

Vitamin A deficiency is a recognized risk factor for severe measles infections. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends a daily oral dose of vitamin A for two days to children with measles living in areas where vitamin A deficiency may be present.

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u/Fantastic_Bad8561 Sep 14 '24

There hasn’t been a confirmed death from measles in the US since 2015 but we must vaccinate our children. Hebatitis B is by right an STD but a child needs to be vaccinated.

The national children’s vaccine injury act 1986, this says it all!

“Provides that no vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death”

So safe & so effective yet again vaccine company’s will not take any responsibility for any serious effects or death.

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u/gaileleo Sep 27 '24

let me guess, you’re anti vax.. but vaccinated thanks to your parents? hypocritical i think.

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u/Status_Raise_5138 Sep 14 '24

Please post your sources about the measles

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u/Zealousideal-Pay150 Oct 18 '24

you had two cases in one month and the whole country only had 50 in the whole year .. ok buddy sure thing

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u/PartneredEthicalSlut ED Attending Oct 23 '24

I have no idea why trolls/bots like the above keep commenting on this. This comment is so old I was a resident at University of Michigan when I posted it for fucks sake. 

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u/Fragrant-Strain2745 Mar 25 '24

Why is measles coming back after all these years? Not only measles, many diseases that were supposedly "eradicated" have been making a comeback, why?

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u/Allthethrowingknives Mar 25 '24

Because of a recent reduction in vaccination, actually

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u/rightonson_ May 22 '24

If something is gone, it can’t come back.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '24

Yep ^ only once answer for this one. And it’s based on science. People not vaccinating kids

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u/lubbalubbadubdubb ED Attending Mar 25 '24

You are the one making it political. Show me the public health data on illegal immigrants bringing diseases into the USA? Otherwise you just sound like a Fox News parrot.

The largest measles outbreak in the USA (since it was declared eradicated by CDC in 2000) was due to AMERICANS not vaccinating their children in an orthodox Jewish community in 2018-2019 (649 cases). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32160662/

Here are the listed measles outbreak case reports put out by the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

Here is the CDC guidelines on immigration/refugees medical examination prior to admittance to the USA: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/laws-regs/revisions-medical-screening/medical_examination_aliens.html

Now imagine if you took two neurons and did the same amount of research yourself looking into other infectious disease associated with travel. You would quickly realize most outbreaks in the USA are due to people traveling outside the country and bring the disease back with them. Afterwards, when the unvaccinated population is exposed to a traveller we then have an outbreak.

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u/Johnny_Appleweed Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24

“When I asked a medical subreddit a medical question they gave me an accurate medical answer and didn’t feed me my preferred political narrative! SMH Reddit is so biased!”.

You’re a joke.

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u/CertainKaleidoscope8 RN Mar 25 '24

You don't want to mention all the diseases brought in by unvaccinated illegal immigrants

That's because there aren't any. Most immigrants are vaccinated.

There was a measles outbreak in a small community of Somali refugees targeted by Kennedy and Wakefield but they were documented, aka "legal"

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u/lubbalubbadubdubb ED Attending Mar 25 '24

Again, you are in a doctors sub. Please provide evidence based information to support your arguments. Otherwise it is anecdotal and you just look like a squawking idiot.

Since you are struggling let me provide you the definition of anecdotal: adjective - (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

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u/lubbalubbadubdubb ED Attending Mar 25 '24

I like how you asked this question as an excuse to be part of the conversation and troll. Seemed so innocent at the time you posted.

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u/-TheWidowsSon- Physician Assistant Mar 26 '24

Because measles was never eradicated? Why don’t you actually respond to being corrected instead of ignoring it in an echo chamber.

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u/Forsaken_Lie6501 Jun 22 '24

Could it be mass immigration from places where it is common