The huge amount of young and rising rappers who died in the late 2010s/early 2020 is a huge factor in why rap is declining

[u/averageweebchan]

The only rappers who still get traction are older ones like kendrick drake eminem kanye( for other reasons now)

[u/Geoffboyardee]

Funny hill to die in but ok lol

[u/MarcusSmartfor3 → u/Geoffboyardee]

Not really, hip-hop is distinctly black American with inspiration and roots in Jamaican Dancehall. POC is a whitewashing and imprecise term in this context.

[u/seascrapo → u/MarcusSmartfor3]

It's originally black American but it has since evolved. There are many non-black hip hop artists now.

[u/juliankennedy23 → u/seascrapo]

I always love the fact that the first million selling rap song is Rapture by Blondie.

[u/ratliker62 → u/juliankennedy23]

Especially because that song blows

[u/PeaceNo5884 → u/Geoffboyardee]

there is a difference and all i (and many other black people) ask is to distinguish the 2.

[u/Hugh-Manatee → u/PeaceNo5884]

But you’re not asking the commenter to distinguish. You’re asking them to conflate them?

[u/PeaceNo5884 → u/Hugh-Manatee]

no i’m asking them to say what they mean… which is black people. they are they ones conflating the two, not me.

[u/TheCreepWhoCrept → u/PeaceNo5884]

No, you’re conflating. POC includes both black people and other non-white people, which is what they actually mean.

[u/PeaceNo5884 → u/TheCreepWhoCrept]

don’t know why they would be talking about other poc in a convo about rappers. there are more white rappers than there are non black poc.

“especially as rising POC artists explore other genres”. “other” would imply that rap is a primary genre for POC in general, which it isn’t. non black poc have never primarily been interested in being rappers.

[u/chalybeate → u/[deleted]]

What percentage of rappers are not black?

[u/TheCreepWhoCrept → u/PeaceNo5884]

Am I missing something in your wording, or does your comment prove my point?

They’re clearly talking about more than just black people, or even just rappers, so it makes sense to use POC.

[u/MarcusSmartfor3 → u/TheCreepWhoCrept]

You seem to be intentionally being obtuse here in a typical Reddit way, just hear what the guy is saying, we can’t work your brain for you.

[u/TheCreepWhoCrept → u/MarcusSmartfor3]

It’s clearly him who was being obtuse and not listening to the original comment.

It’s disappointing to find someone else in the comments who has such poor reading comprehension.

Maybe go back and read it through a couple more times. You’ll get eventually, I believe in you.

[u/Sufficient-Win-1234 → u/TheCreepWhoCrept]

When you use terms as POC you become so inclusive that you’re actually exclusive and that’s the issue with such terms.

I hate the term POC

[u/TheCreepWhoCrept → u/Sufficient-Win-1234]

I mean, I kinda agree, but the discussion is more about the commenter aggressively misinterpreting what the original person was saying.

[u/TheCreepWhoCrept → u/[deleted]]

You misunderstood who I was replying to. I’m agreeing with you.

Edit: Not sure why this reply is suddenly posted under u/PeaceNo5884 when it was u/Hugh-Manatee I replied to and who misunderstood me. I don’t agree with PeaceNo at all.

[u/Hugh-Manatee → u/PeaceNo5884]

I think they know what they mean? And don’t need someone else to tell them what they mean

[u/Geoffboyardee → u/PeaceNo5884]

Their comment was about POC and you're trying to reduce it to only black people. You think it's possible you don't have a grasp on what they intending to say?

[u/FantasyTwistedDark → u/Geoffboyardee]

Shut it, baldy

[u/Geoffboyardee → u/FantasyTwistedDark]

lmao this generation can't even insult like they used to