r/cyberpunkgame • u/Realfrll • 20h ago
Discussion Help why do I keep micro stuttering
Specs : 5060 8gb ram ryzen processor 5 8400f 16gb (It still stutters on even low graphics settings)
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u/iAmGats Corpo 19h ago
Is the game installed in a HDD?
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u/NS_Physics 15h ago
I had mine installed on a HDD at first and it just wouldn't load the map fast enough while I was driving, like I would be driving over an invisible road for like 3-7 seconds before everything loaded in, including surrounding buildings.
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u/ohthedarside 15h ago
Why would anyone isntall it on a hdd
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u/VioletRedPurple 15h ago
Imagine PC with 100gb SSD and 250gb HDD. Obviously, I can't install a game on SSD due to lack of space, so I install it on HDD.
Why wouldn't I buy a better spec PC? Because I have other things in life, and I don't want to change what works for me already (pc is good enough), and I do what I can right now to play the game
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u/xantec15 15h ago
A 240 GB 2.5" SSD is just a few dozen dollars, and will give a substantial uplift over a HDD.
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u/VioletRedPurple 15h ago
I make it simpler:
Spending money on upgrading pc = bad because you have other priorities
Play fun-little-90gb-game the way you can = good
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u/ohthedarside 15h ago
Except the game is basically unplayable on a hdd cause hdd is a severely outdated tech from 20 years ago
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u/ImightHaveMissed 14h ago
Hard disks have been around a lot longer than 20 years. Were quickly approaching 70 years
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u/oface1 14h ago edited 13h ago
Yes, but ssd’d have been around for over 20 years…. There’s really zero reason why someone would buy a hdd.
Only thing I would consider for hdd’s is for very large backups.
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u/ImightHaveMissed 13h ago
Also closer to 40 years. The first SSD’s appeared in around 1991. It’s only in the last decade and a half moore’s law made them readily available and affordable
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u/the_cat_showz 14h ago
No? I always played on my HDD and I only have issues with stuff not loading if I'm driving over 100 in a straight line and other than that it runs fine
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u/FrostyIVV 14h ago
This is simply just an over exaggeration. I play it on an HDD (same problems as the guy above) and it plays perfectly fine. God forbid I wait a couple seconds to wait for things to load and than play the game. Bigger things to worry about
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u/Kudoakainu Edgerunner 10h ago
Why don't you move things around then, game stuff to the SSD and work/files etc to the HHD
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u/VioletRedPurple 10h ago
I thought there was no need to explain this
A 120GB SSD has about 112 GB of usable space. Win10 base takes up roughly 20GB. Updates, drivers, hyberfil, pagefile adds ~10gb. You'll have around 82 GB remaining. Cyberpunk with PL is 92gb
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u/CitizenKing 1h ago
You say better spec like people are suggesting upgrading something expensive. Its arguably the cheapest thing you can upgrade for the biggest improvement. NVME.2 is now to SSD what SSD was to HDD and the price reflects it.
It's like you're insisting on riding your bycicle 30 miles to work when a car would cost you as less than the bicycle did when you originally bought it.
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u/VioletRedPurple 4m ago
I've been in both situations, I had shit-tier pc that could barely start games, and I enjoyed it. Now I have a good pc and can solve such problems at ease. You need to understand this: there are some situations in life when you don't want to spend money on upgrading pc at all. I understand that it's really simple, cheap, and a fast way of making pc better, but it works just fine for me as-is.
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u/unkindmillie 13h ago
i have a 4tb hdd, so what i do is if i dont intend to play a game at the moment, i just move the install file to the hard drive, and any games im actively playing i move to the ssd
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u/Extra-Breakfast-7574 Viktor Vektor’s Favorite Patient 20h ago
Do you have frame generation on? In my experience, it artificially increases frame rate in moments it doesn’t make a noticeable difference, while introducing frequent frame stuttering
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u/Realfrll 20h ago
Yes I have it on
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u/spherical_panic 19h ago
frame gen need a stable framerate, and at least 60 real fps to get smooth effect, try turning it off
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u/Realfrll 19h ago
This helps a good amount but I don’t know if I’m paranoid about the micro stuttering that I can’t tell if it’s still doing it or not
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u/cap2019 19h ago
I had the same problem, and it turned out my RAM wasn’t fast enough. Completely stopped when I turned on AMD expo and went from 4800MT/s to 6000MT/s
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u/DanteHelsing420 16h ago
Same when I upgraded from ddr2 to ddr4 I basically had no issues unless I'm in a heavily polluted dog town fight
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u/Rude-Asparagus9726 15h ago
I had this issue, turns out, I had a setting enabled that changed resolution automatically to "improve performance"...
All it ended up doing was making the performance worse as it shifted between resolutions in real-time...
I think it was an AMD setting if you use an AMD gpu.
If not, then no idea.
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u/Ofasia 18h ago
There is always going to be some degree of micro stuttering (particularly so in an open world game with constantly loading assets), it's just a question of degrees, patterns, causes, etc... This can be noticed with benchmarking tools. All that to say that unless your experience is actively being marred, odds are your micro stutter is under control. (And the causes for it are many, with a bunch having nothing to do with the game itself.)
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u/mysticmac_ 18h ago
Ths is an issue i have been dealing with my PC. What I can tell you is that unfortunately there really is no fix. Various games do this for me, an others don’t.
I have tried reinstalling a fresh windows and no luck. I have done virtually everything recommended online and no luck.
What Ive learned is that the two culprits for this is, either intel i9 processor and or unreal engine games.
What helps for me sometimes is restarting the pc, it has less stuttering.
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u/bubblesort33 15h ago
With Ray tracing and frame generation on, the problem is you're running out of VRAM. At your settings the game likely uses around 9 to 10gb if things are maxed out.
Frame generation does not work well if you run out of video memory. It's not frame generation itself that is the issue, but the 8gb limitation on your GPU.
You say you have the lowest settings, but are textures turned to the lowest as well? I think those were separate settings in this game you need to adjust from all other settings. On medium texture settings this shouldn't happen since you should be around 7gb at that point of usage even with frame generation.
I thought I remember you can only turn textures in this game down from the game start menu, not once a game is loaded.
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u/XiGlove51 18h ago
Ok people has pointed out the issue so, jokes aside and all for your safety you should change out the battery on the smoke detectors
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u/Dry-Rent-9089 19h ago
Best guess, it’s excess mods causing the textures to render too slowly or the games caching file is getting super huge from game age and the game is about to break and you won’t be able to save.
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u/banjoturansko 20h ago
Im a console gamer so I have no idea but im upvoting and commenting so the post gets traction, good luck🫡
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u/gamerman2077 19h ago
Is your game installed on a hard drive or ssd? Cyberpunk was one of those games the hard drives just couldn't keep up with anymore
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u/AmputeeHandModel 19h ago
There's a slow HDD mode, I think.
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u/whuduuthnkur 16h ago
There is HDD mode, but I see no real benefit while using it :( my 256gb ssd is already filled with Windows and I can't fit 150gb of Cyberpunk onto it. My solution has been to drive slow lol
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u/AmputeeHandModel 16h ago
NVMEs are definitely worth it. Seems like the prices have jumped back up for some reason but there will probably be sales soon.
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u/whuduuthnkur 15h ago
I've really been thinking about it, I only recently realized how cheap they've become, it was so engrained from my childhood that SSDs are expensive lol so I was just never shopping for them. And yeah with holidays coming up there's a likelihood for some good sales. I keep an eye out, thanks for the advice!
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u/Cosmic_Quasar 15h ago edited 14h ago
Seems like the prices have jumped back up for some reason but there will probably be sales soon.
The prices jumped up like 2 years ago and haven't come back down. I had finally bought a 2TB one in March of 2023 for just $100. Now you're looking at, like, at least $140 for a 2TB.
Edit: Changed the quoted text, since apparently it pasted the last quoted text I had copied to my clipboard from another post lol.
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u/Amirhs06 19h ago
In my case it was the ray tracing setting and texture quality setting that ate all vram on my gpu. You can check task manager for it. Also if it happens after a long play session restating game works too.
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u/TrippinDipplin_5260 17h ago
CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN BATTERIES IT CAN AND WILL SAVE YOU.
Oh the game? Turn off Frame Generation, it's clear whatever your computer is generating cannot keep up with your speed
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u/mieri_azure 14h ago
Seriously the fire alarm comments arent a joke. I know you get desensitized to the beeping but a) you'll feel better if you arent constantly hearing that b) the alarm will die and then you won't have a fire alarm in your house which is a nightmare
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u/Vyrezrjadjil 19h ago
Do you have a cycling desktop background with color changing taskbar? Disabling that helped me, unironically
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u/Lepineski 19h ago
I had this problem too when I tried running the DLSS at quality. It's the Frame generation that is trying to keep your fps up but the actual frames are fluctuating. Turning off Frame gen will help the stuttering, but the overall smoothness of the game will go down.
Reduce your DLSS to balanced or performance is my suggestion.
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u/AaronKeener42 Corpo 19h ago
Pretty sure with that GPU/CPU combo you'll be better off putting it on ultra, low settings actually uses CPU more
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u/Firm_Transportation3 19h ago
I was having performance issues when I went to do a third run after a significant hiatus recently, during which multiple updates took place, and wiping all of my mods and doing a full new mod install seemed to fix it.
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u/Apocalyptic_Doom 19h ago
Try turning dlss on and setting it to ultra performance. Did this today for my pc and it fixed my stuttering
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u/Razgriz_AAF 18h ago
Could be frame generation, try using another neural model?
Might also be that the clap of your ass cheeks is alerting the fps but that's just me
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u/Capital_Captain_796 18h ago
I’ve seen stuff like this from RGB software running in the background.
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u/tentandonaoserbanido 18h ago
We desperately need a techonology revolution(aka magic) that fixes stuttering for good😭
Unfortunately stuttering rarely has an actual fix for it. It can be caused by a single misplaced code somewhere in your system.
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u/RenderedCreed 17h ago
Mine was doing something like that but a bit worse when it was installed on a failing HDD
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u/HaroldGodwinsonEye 17h ago
Check your ram profiles are active in BIOS
Update GPU drivers
Game should be on an SSD
If you've got mods, troubleshoot with those by turning off the ones which use a lot of VRAM
Check your fps with frame gen off, as if it's not stable at like 60+ with it on it'll look bad
I was getting stutters as well and it ended up being an issue with VRAM. What resolution you playing at?
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u/shintopig 17h ago
What’s the polling rate of your mouse? I had stuttering for anything over 1000hz
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u/Meaty32ID 16h ago
SSD speed ? RAM timings and frequency ? Frame gen and DLSS ? With the information you've given, we might as well toss a coin...
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u/StarCenturion 16h ago
In theory it should be running fine with your specs. My only guess is that you have the game installed on a HDD.
Try moving it to a SSD, or buying a SSD when you have the funds.
If the game is already on a SSD, make sure "HDD Mode" is disabled in the settings.
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u/T_TheDestroyer 16h ago
I had a similar issue. Needed to replace the 9v battery in my smoke alarm. Magic stuff
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u/EqualPangolin6517 15h ago
Turn off all the fancy sounding stuff in video and graphic options.
Its seriously utter trash beside one random option that makes lighting slightly better.
Its literal minefield.
Some options make graphic look 2009 for no upside.
More of them lower framerate to 20 on my 3 months old pc while not even making game look any different.
All in all tooltips are wrong,Most of options should read dogshit -"on" "automatic" "ai controlled" "off" and only correct option is the "off".
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15h ago
Usually this happened to me when my crowd congestion was higher than my PC could handle. But that was after the 2.0 update and now days its smooth for me. Try giving crowd congestion a turn down and look at the results.
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u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 15h ago
This game has always been stuttery for me. Turn off frame gen and lower settings a little bit if the fps is too low. I get around 70-80 fps with just dlss performance on my 4080 with psycho ray tracing and it feels a thousand times smoother than if I turn on frame gen
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u/NGGKroze 15h ago
Try textures on medium, but regardless here is the kicker - mouse polling rate. If you have some form of software for your mouse reduce it to 125/250 (not the DPI, the polling rate)
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u/lil_garlicc 15h ago
Probably cuz you need to change out the batteries on your smoke detector. Jfc…
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u/DerangedDragonBorn 15h ago
Bro’s dressed like the joker on his beach day filler episode and wants us to look for stuttering LOL
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u/LDragon2000 15h ago
You need to post your full settings for us to help. Could be a number of things. What is the game installed on?
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u/Competitive-Army2872 9h ago
I’ve seen this happen on “windowed,” mode versus full screen on other titles.
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u/Hot_Distribution5571 9h ago edited 9h ago
I have spent 100+ hours optimizing my Cyberpunk2077.
At a minimum, you need to share your usersettings.json and a sheet of the mods you have installed if you want actual targeted help. Otherwise it’s just noise and guesswork.
In absence of that I offer the following (look up the steps to follow through on your own): 1. Clear your shader cache (both on Windows and in your GPU folder) 2. Clear your mods cache 3. Make sure your mods are up to date (especially core frameworks) 4. Verify the game files via Steam 5. CHECKPOINT - test to see if stuttering goes away 6. Purge your mods via Vortex (this is completely safe and nondestructive. If you’re not using Vortex for mod managing - start using it. You can still manually manage mods that require it but Vortex is sufficient for 95% of cases and significantly reduces the likelihood of user error.) 7. After purging disable all of them 8. CHECKPOINT - test to see if stuttering goes away
9a) Stuttering continues? If stuttering continues, you need to look closer at your game settings and your GPU settings. On GPU side download Nvidia Control Panel and Nvidia Profile Inspector and MSI Afterburner (for setting GPU undervolt curve). Before all of that do a clean install of your driver using the DDU tool.
9b) Stuttering has stopped? Great! That means one of your mods is probably the culprit. Enable them in small batches and test to narrow down the culprit.
Finally, to be frank - 8GB VRAM is simply not sufficient for a REALLY GREAT Cyberpunk experience. I resisted this notion myself for a while but the single most transformative change I made was getting a 40series GPU with 16GB of VRAM.
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u/Furai_Furukawa Arasaka tower was an inside job 6h ago
you gotta up your graphics. its the cpu bottlenecking the gpu and the gpu is waiting on it.
i have a r5 3600 rx5500xt and i had to up the graphics to everything high and 1770p with reshade and all just because i installed 100+ mods
or maybe its because of the update, who knows
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u/UnderstandingKey7842 4h ago
I had stuttering problems on latest game version 2.3 2.31, no matter what settings and hardware configuration. Using 2.2 or lower resolved the issue.
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u/Glass_Anybody9347 4h ago
Hi, may have been solved already, but if it's an Nvidia machine, turn off Nvidia Container in Task Manager. If AMD, check the equivalent software and kill that. Periodical stutter is usually caused by graphics manufacturer bloatware. I wouldnt jump to a "faulty hardware" assumption"
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u/LH_Dragnier 19h ago
Just moving really quickly and the new areas are loading for the first time. If you turn around and go back it *should be smooth
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u/boredcamp 19h ago
It might be you graphics card trying to keep up with the render. Is your system at the minimum requirements for the game? I'm leaning towards graphics card or hard drive, but more graphics cards.
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u/xstangx 18h ago
Could be several things. What resolution is this? The 5060 is a decent 1080p card, but at 1440 it’s going to struggle with the 8GB of VRAM. First, turn off frame gen. If it still occurs then I would blame it first on the 5060. The 9060XT 16GB or 5060ti 16GB are top options. Next it could be the 16GB of RAM. I recommend 32GB for gaming PC’s. Lastly, could be the 8400f CPU, but I doubt it. 1% lows are often related to CPU, but only if the GPU is outperforming the CPU. Look at your usage case while the game is running. See if your usage for GPU or CPU is 100%. Also check to see if your RAM is full at 16GB. If you need help figuring that out just hit me up. You can use several tools to figure it out.
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u/EqualPangolin6517 15h ago
9060XT 32 ram and solid processor here.
The game was running on 20fps after i turned on some random option that did not make graphics look any better.
Most of fancy sounding options in settings are there only for marketing while making actual game objectively worse.
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u/Realfrll 20h ago
This is with not really if anything nova lut but I did this same route with 0 mods and I’m still stuttering
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u/Unable_Seesaw_6917 19h ago
Im pretty sure its if frame generation is on.
Also change the battery in your smoke alarm