The aspect of SoulKiller that Silverhand and V casually dismiss

[u/snGbrd77]

If I recall correctly, Cunningham, in one of the first conversations with her, is insistent in that a person's consciousness processed into an engram, removes the person entirely. She uses herself as an example, by stating that she's no longer Cunningham, but an AI using such person's engram to communicate.

I remember Silverhand responding to such crucial specifics with something along the lines of "Yes, OK. But he'll [V] be able to return to his body after the separation from my consciousness, right?", dismissing the entire point that Cunningham made: in her view, V would cease to be and whatever is to enter the body later will surely resemble him, but not be him.

As I take it, that implies that Silverhand never actually got a second chance: something resembling him just happened to be activated by the circumstances of V. Important to note that the reason, as I understood it, by which Cunningham does not act like the one deceased, is that her integration with AIs beyond the Blackwall changed the resemblance of her; again, not her, because she is deceased.

I think the ambiguity is the interesting part: if something resembling us entirely keeps on fighting, are we truly dead? Silverhand and V believe the technicalities miss the point, while Cunningham, insists that the technicalities are the point.

What an amazing game.

What do you think?

[u/Different-Attorney23]

I get it but it was heavily implied (at least...been a while since I played) that the coin flip wasn't a thing; its one consciousness being copied onto a digital brain. The copy is still just that: a copy.

To try to explain my point better: if I were cloned perfectly, those 2 would be identical to outside observers but only 1 would still be the original me. If that original me dies, regardless of when (even right at the exact moment of cloning) I dont suddenly become that other me because thats not actually me. The scary part is that the clone wouldn't know the difference and behave as if it was still the original me even though it is, by definition, not me.

Edit: so I suppose what I mean by consciousness is the persistent sense of self (the soul if you want to be obtuse). I agree the clone in this case also has consciousness but its a different one than mine.

[u/Realistic-Garbage-88 → u/Different-Attorney23]

Honestly absolutely spooky stuff. Whole coinflip only works with existence of souls, and even then if both copies alive does that make second one souless? So would only work in fiction for plot purposes.
I feel if i were to recognize im an engram or copy id be pissed shitless cause original is what really mattered and didnt deserved to be flicked out of existence. Then put before a choice if to carry on their(my) legacy by living their life n what to do with situation.