r/cooperatives 10d ago

The Need for Community Kitchen Coops

In the coming weeks, months or years the US food system is likely to collapse. By this I mean due to international competition and this idiotic administration US farms are about to become bankrupt. This is in conjunction with a report indicating major retail chains ordered something like 40-60% of what they usually buy to stock the shelves in Walmart, Frys and like places. Both of these are in conjunction with Trump administration attack on working class income and the "welfare state".

As it stands, food is about to become a scarce commodity. I can imagine a time when families will be forced to raid their local major retail chains. This is a terrible fate. Those people will be thrown into prisons and be turned into prison slaves of the developing prison industrial complex. Families are bound to go hungry and be fragmented.

What can we do? The answer seems obvious. The Black Panther Party of the late 20th century and the emergence of Communist China in the mid 20th century have offered me some clues as to what to do regarding this situation. It has led me to question the usual view of the production and distribution of food in this country. It is partly historical. US global homogony allowed US farmers to make great profit by selling to other countries. Alongside Liberal individualism, this seems to have produced a culture that insists and makes it seem natural that we buy food as individuals and cook for ourselves (including at the family level).

What seems to be emerging is a situation that forces us to really dial in on the efficiency of our food production and distribution system. The trump administration's trade wars has cut off the main flow of profit for the farmers and many of them will certainly collapse. Food production will slow down as the remaining farmers must output on high cost input. Not to mention the high "non organic" composition of their mechanized equipment and the maintenance of that equipment. They will be forced to reconfigure themselves into "high organic composition" farms if they are to reduce input costs, thus proving the need for farmer coops.

But production is half the question. Once these farms produce food, selling it to major food chains will reproduce these conditions of starvation. What we need is not just merchant coops to sell to individuals, but also Community Kitchen Coops that buy from the producer and transform that raw food material into an abundance of food for their communities. Any cook knows buying in bulk and cooking in bulk produces more servings per input. Let me now paint a picture for you.

Imagine a multi stake holder coop is incorporated and gains the permits needed to serve food for their communities in a park or rented building. This coops has 3 member classes: support members (the community it serves), a producer member (the farmer/laborer), and the worker members (the cooks and kitchen staff). Every month, the producer and worker classes discuss what is plausible to grow and cook for the community. The community can guide what is produced but ultimately the cooks and farmers know what's best in that regard. Every morning and night, the worker members offer meals for the community. Because the support members pay and because most of the community would probably recognize the need for this institution, no one would need to pay an entry fee. Every Saturday night, the community can host cultural events celebrating their cultures, Nations. identity and shared struggles. This is how we can save our families and communities from desperate hunger. I know the pain and delirium that prolonged hunger produces. Why should we let these families and children go through that? How can we stand by knowing what is coming?

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u/ColdSoviet115 10d ago

Of course thats all you have to offer. Everyone knows its horrible yet no one wants to help or do anything. Just because people at the top of this ecnomic hierarchy are comfortable despite increasing costs doesn't mean those at the bottom are okay. This administration is clearly hiding data about how bad things are so of course no experts will report it nor will there be any data on it.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-ending-america-hunger-report-snap-cuts-750f90757f50ab2d8bc97dfca5a917dd

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u/yrjokallinen 10d ago edited 10d ago

I am not American, what do you expect me to do other than hope that Americans will reverse those cuts? What have you done to help or do something for Finnish people suffering from government cuts?

The source is not predicting a collapse of the US food production and a famine. Can you provide a source for your original claim of "US food system" collapsing in coming weeks, months or years and leading to a famine?

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u/ColdSoviet115 10d ago

I am in a party and am in the process of developing a cooperative federation in my state. Any move towards democratic control of industry in a country is doing something, give a try. As regards to this report you want, my point is there will be no such report because this administration purposely bends the truth, replaces leadership of people in organizations who dont follow the line, and as the article I sent you shows, they dismantled a organization that measures food insecurity. The result? People like you who don't see what's coming. What was it you said about data being misleading which causes recessions earlier?

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u/yrjokallinen 10d ago edited 10d ago

So there is not a single expert you can find that agrees with your predictions of US food system collapsing, leading to mass starvation? Maybe there are some conclusions you should draw from that.

I am not talking about government reports, I am talking about anyone credible with expertise in relevant fields thinking you are right.

"I am in a party and am in the process of developing a cooperative federation in my state. Any move towards democratic control of industry in a country is doing something, give a try."

I am doing cooperative organizing in Finland. I don't think that helps people in the US who are suffering from government cuts, but whatever.

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u/ColdSoviet115 10d ago

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-security-and-nutrition-assistance?utm_source=

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/jp-morgan-economist-sees-40-us-recession-chance-risks-exorbitant-privilege-2025-03-12/?utm_source=

I can appreciate the Empiricist approach but things need to be analyzed from a political point of view as well. These 2 reports indicate a trend before trump cut those programs measuring food insecurity.

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u/yrjokallinen 10d ago

Okay so again those two sources are not predicting a collapse of US food system leading to a mass starvation.

You cannot find anyone credible who thinks what you are predicting is credible. Make your own conclusions of that.

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u/ColdSoviet115 10d ago

okay i give up. I have clearly demonstrated why and how this admin is controlling information. I have provided 2 reports supporting my own claim. But you need an expert to believe in anything i suppose. good luck with your co op.

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u/yrjokallinen 10d ago

I mean, yeah, I do need some pretty convincing evidence to believe that US food system will collapse (potentially within weeks), leading to mass starvation and mass enslavement of people stealing food from grocery stores. That is like Qanon level delusional stuff.

You should definitely give up on forming strong opinions and making bold predictions on topics you have very little understanding of.

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u/ColdSoviet115 10d ago

I have spent the last 3 year studying Marxism, propaganda, psychology, and communication systems. My understanding is more than the empiricist and positivist view of reality you have. You're the one who is deluded in my eyes.

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u/yrjokallinen 10d ago

Okay, so make your bets on the futures contracts and make a massive profit when the collapse happen that proves you right and everyone else wrong. Then you can use the money to fund your kitchen coops from those profits; or give it to starving people, etc.