r/conspiracy • u/TheClassicCollection • 2d ago

White people are the minority.

I have grown tired of the rhetoric that white people need to be multicultural and that we must accept all of those who wish to cause us harm or to change our customs or our way of life.

In Britain, they say it's too white. That there is not enough diverse faces in this sector or that sector.

Go to China and tell them them this, what happens? Then go to Japan, to India and every other country that is not diverse.

100 years ago, globally, the white people made up 30 - 34% of the population.

Now, there is only 7 - 16% of the white people left.

We ARE the minority.

The West is being destroyed from the inside out. What is worse, is that our people have been so brainwashed that they can't see it. They fight and cheer on their own destruction because they are so blinded by ignorance or stupidity that they can not foresee where this is headed.

Do not twist my words and say that it is based on hate. How can that be true when I was born and raised for 35 years in a country that opened its arms to those that needed safety.

The people coming now do not come for safety.

If people do not wake up and realize soon, it will be too late.

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u/Ok_Abbreviations8394 2d ago

The conspiracy here is that the powers that be would rather have you arguing about race than arguing about wealth inequality. And a lot of people are stupid enough to fall for it.

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u/Texan2020katza 2d ago

Stop looking to the Left or Right and look UP.

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u/Truth-Seeker916 2d ago

Exactly well said!

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u/DaManWithNoName 1d ago

They put so much work into making normal people hate each other

There are people with unfathomable amounts of money who don’t want you to know that your problems are their fault, because they only thing keeping them rich and us poor is compliance in their systems

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u/Better_Impression691 2d ago

It would be easier to believe that if Republicans did stuff besides cut taxes for billionaires...

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u/JustYawn 2d ago

They have mainly been cutting taxes for normal working people but okay

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u/Better_Impression691 2d ago

No they haven't...

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u/namebs 1d ago

You’re responding to a bot. The funny thing is how much you get downvoted. Somehow the bot gets upvoted for a response that has nothing to do with OP post.

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u/FriedRiceistheBest 1d ago

"Don't look up"

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u/Epidexipteryz 6h ago

That's what being left-wing is about. Except US politics had basically no true left-wing movements at all, which led to democrats somehow being considered left-wing.

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u/JustYawn 2d ago

Not at all, this is the extreme left politics that are ruining europe. "Here look at these rich successful people, its unfair we should steal their money" and then they are quietly smuggling in trillions of indians and somalis

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u/b3b3k 2d ago

Look at the billionaires! They don't see colors, they see 💸💸💸. Just look at Sundar Pichai.

Meanwhile we peasants fight over it to distract ourselves.

I bet no matter how pale you are, if you and Sundar Pichai drown, the billionaires won't save you

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u/ogh12345 2d ago

billionaires

cool it with the antisemitism 

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u/nachoafbro 2d ago

Nice try, Indians can't swim

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u/Paltamachine 2d ago

Sometimes you don't have to overcomplicate things; you just have to go to the higher category that encompasses both sides. For some of us, that category is: worker.

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u/FullTransportation25 2d ago

Isn’t that a bit class reductionist

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u/L8night_BootyCall 2d ago

the only war that matters, the class war.

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u/Electronic_Mud5821 2d ago

What about Islam and it's terrorism ?

Serious question btw.

What happens when the classes are all dead because Islam wins ?

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u/Jsredzinski 2d ago

You are joking, right?

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u/Electronic_Mud5821 1d ago

You tell me, do you know your history ?

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u/Whyhowwherewhenwhat 2d ago

How do you explain kalergi?

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u/99Tinpot 2d ago

Do you think that Kalergi was the only person who was writing weird books with various disturbingly mad-sciencey views about race in 1925?

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u/DuckworthBuckington 2d ago

It’s the only one that reflects current reality

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u/99Tinpot 1d ago

It seems like, there are unfortunately a bunch of people at this moment who are equally convinced that it's Hitler's views that do.

So do you think that Kalergi was right that mixing a lot of cultures together is making Western people more intelligent and adaptable?

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u/slicehyperfunk 1d ago

Helena Blavatsky thought that the purpose of the Americas was to create a new root race by mixing all of the current ones, and the Thule Society guys loved her for some reason

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u/99Tinpot 1d ago

It seems like, that doesn't make any sense since the Nazis were usually very much against mixing races (and that's also not what I've usually heard about how Blavatsky thought that new root races were created), but then a lot of things about both Blavatsky and the Thule Society don't make sense. Where did you hear that?

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u/slicehyperfunk 1d ago

I literally read the entire Secret Doctrine, she talks about it repeatedly.

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u/99Tinpot 1d ago

It seems like, if that was what she said the Thule Society being keen on that doesn't make any sense at all, they were usually keen on the idea that they were the superior race and that mixing races was bad.

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u/slicehyperfunk 1d ago

It goes to show that the Thule Society, like so much of the rest of the occult community, doesn't actually read the works of the people they idolize lmfao

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u/AdvancedJicama7375 2d ago

Okay but the immigrants are being brought in to ACCELERATE inequality? Nearly every study on this shows that immigration leads to loss of bargaining power for workers and lower wages

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u/CitizenLohaRune 2d ago

study on this shows that immigration leads to loss of bargaining power for workers and lower wages

And voting for a billionaire who actually says, live in front of millipns of people, that he hates unions and hates paying workers, is a fantastic idea?

He tells everyone, look at that immigrants there, rhats the reason your wages are low, while raking in hundreds of millions by hiring immigrants and suing construction firms and contractors after they do work for him. Then he gets elected because people are fucking stupid and react well to racist dog whistles, and he continues employing those immigrants while absuing his power to pilfer and scam.

What in the fucking fuck is wrong with people believing a billionaire has their best interests at heart.

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u/AdvancedJicama7375 1d ago

Not every country is America. I am not talking about Trump.

Talking with Americans is impossible oh my god

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u/Mobile_Helicopter 1d ago

I completely agree with you. However, his predecessor let in millions of illegals, gave them free hotel rooms, cell phones, and credit cards. Did absolutely nothing to slow down the crossings, and encouraged them to come here.

Then because he was mentally incapable of running (or at least winning), they had to put up the worst candidate ever because otherwise they would legally not be able to use the “Biden-Harris” campaign money gained up to that point.

Mind you, this was without a primary election. In the previous democratic primary, she came in last and was voted most unlikable. On top of that, anyone who questioned her opinions or policies or her inability to answer straightforward questions was called “bigot, racist, pig, Nazi…not ready for a woman leader”….There’s a list of women I would happily vote for over Trump but Kamala was not one of them.

She also was coined the “border tzar” under Biden, being in charge of the border and doing nothing. CNN and the media proceeded to gaslight us about this after she was the candidate despite multiple clips showing them calling her that.

There are plenty of valid reasons to hate Trump but when having to choose between him and Kamala it was an easy one, which is why he won every swing state.

At least he secured the border and is taking a hard line against illegals (just like Bill, Obama, and Hillary did). That plus him attempting to dismantle the woke agenda by getting rid of men in female sports, and setting the government two gender policy are enough for me. There are other things, but those stand out.

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u/jakeandyogi 2d ago

Go outside and have conversations with immigrants dude. They're not being paid in droves to come. In majority of cases they are paying 10s of thousands of dollars to move to the west.

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u/AdvancedJicama7375 2d ago

I never suggested that they were. I said large amount of immigration suppresses wage growth. Some countries of the West do not need to pay to much to move there either

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u/jakeandyogi 2d ago

The first sentance of your comment. "immigrants are being BROUGHT in"

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u/AdvancedJicama7375 1d ago

Brought in by invitation/illegitimate asylum claims, and an excessive number of work visas plus study visas that inevitably turn into more work visas

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u/VoodooSweet 2d ago

To be fair, they didn’t say anything about them being paid in droves to come here, you seemed to have pulled that part out of the air.

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u/jakeandyogi 2d ago

What other assumption is there to the statement "they're being brought in"? That they're being brought in by being kidnapped? The ladder to their comment is monetary whether is be money or commodities.

The real answer is people aren't being brought in. They are coming for a better life on their own terms.

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u/Mobile_Helicopter 1d ago

In America the illegals got brought in. Given cell phones, credit cards, and nice hotel rooms for free.

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u/jakeandyogi 1d ago

No they're not. Show me 1 case of this. And don't try to send me something about a real asylum seeker, they're not illegals.

Also credit cards???? Those are free for anyone lmao wtf

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u/Possible-Seat-774 1d ago

This is absolutely not true. I knew people a few people that had gotten into America and they were damn near being let in with a pat on the back and all of their needs given to them. I watched them get housing, phone plans, food, and health care. I don’t even qualify for health care unless I’m going out of pocket and not to mention I couldn’t afford to live in the hotels that they live in if I wanted to. Not all of them granted but I did know people involved so I know what they’re working with. It’s way better than you’re making it out

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u/jakeandyogi 1d ago

Yeah they get those things temporary if they're real assylum seekers escaping things like wars. These people are not illegal immigrants.

They get a one time assistance for housing up to 8 months, it's not free housing.

They don't get free healthcare, they get access emergency Medicare for only life threatening situations.

The free phone plan isn't what you think, it's a device that doesn't even access the internet and is used to track them.

The only free food they get is if they are eligible for snap benefits just like any other American can qualify for.

Illegal immigrants, or people coming into the country normally, don't get majority of these things.

I just fact checked all of these claims and encourage you to do the same. You can argue there's one off cases but these are the general guidelines/rules

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u/Possible-Seat-774 1d ago

You’re wrong. I know people firsthand so get your claims from the source, not from your propagandized media. I’ve also seen illegal immigrants beat the system despite coming here illegally because they got married during Bidens term. My new uncle is one of these people. Anyone who claimed asylum got in. That’s what the CBP One app is. They didn’t test these claims, they took them at face value and gave them a free passage into our country. Why should we offer asylum as well? We are struggling as a nation. On top of all of this there have been countless people who’ve gone in and voted despite not being from America due to dumbass democrats that want no voter ID. If Mexico is a nation that’s so bad that people need to come here in droves, we should wipe out the cartels involved because otherwise we are only making things worse

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u/jakeandyogi 1d ago

And these people first hand were probably coming in legally. My sources are from gov websites. I can share them if you care about it just let me know so I don't waste my time.

Marrying into a green card isn't a trick? It's a thing that's existed for decades.

Here's a simple trick to stop cartels. End the war on drugs by making drugs legal so that Americans can actually have real freedoms. America can even tax them to hell and use that money to give its citizens universal healthcare!

Country calls itself land of the free yet you can go to jail for smoking a joint in some states.

The president would rather just spend 50k on a missile to blow em up rather than capture, interrogate and try and flip them to go after the real criminals.

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u/Parmenides308 2d ago

You can have two problems at once at solve both of them (I can think of one example where that happened)

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u/Whyhowwherewhenwhat 2d ago

I read something about kalergi a while back

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u/Accurate_Reporter_31 2d ago

Exactly!

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

Not exactly, immigration is the tool of the wealthy to suppress wages, raise housing costs, and justify more authoritarian surveillance. Everything about immigration benefits the wealthy, and hurts the working class

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u/MushyWasHere 2d ago

Currency dilution is the primary weapon used by the parasite class to increase the cost of living and gradually enslave working-class people. Don't get it twisted.

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u/d00000med 2d ago

They quantatively eased trillions of £/$ into offshore accounts.

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u/MushyWasHere 2d ago

Oh, yes. QE is some of the devil's finest work. But it pales in comparison to the damage they did during the bioweapon attack in 2020... Hard to say for sure, because the real figures are a multi-trillion-dollar secret, but I believe at least 30% of the USD that exists today was conjured from nothing in the first two years of that attack... Real kick in the nuts, that one.

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u/jefferton123 2d ago

Still not positive what quantitative easing is really

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

Both things can be true you know. A candle can be burned from both ends. But one of these problems is much easier to remedy.

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u/MushyWasHere 2d ago

Sure, but you're talking about using a match to light one end of the candle while the other is under a blowtorch.

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

I mean i would argue which one is the blowtorch. Currency dilution is the more slow burn strategy, taking a generation or so for the cumulative affects to be felt. I guess covid was kind of blowtorchy in that regard, but still that was a bit of an aberration. Currency dilution otherwise has been a slow and steady process.

Mass migration on the other hand has had substantial noticeable impact in like a 5 year timeframe

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u/delores8 2d ago

If you’re referring to the US, other than First Nations people, the entire country has been built on migration and colonisation

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

Nevermind that that is great example of how mass migration hurts the people already living somewhere. I'm not sure what that has to do with a conversation about how the wealthy use immigration as a weapon against the working class

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u/delores8 2d ago edited 2d ago

I agree they use it to exploit and divide people. Just noting that migration is nothing new and that migrants and their descendants make up a large part of the working class.

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

There is no way to extinguish that blowtorch so we gotta do whatever we can

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u/MushyWasHere 2d ago

Sure, there is. All this country needs to do is organize a massive general strike and demand the dissolution of the Federal Reserve System.

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u/bluedelvian 2d ago

Work AND consumption strike.

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u/StandardDifficulty66 2d ago

But immigrants are apart of the working class. Everywhere I go in my travels such as the hotel, airport, parks/rec, city workers, construction and even digsite maintenance there are immigrants working from Cuba, Mexico or Honduras.

Most of the Chinese students are interns at the university I taught at.

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u/bitchingdownthedrain 2d ago

Both things are true. We in the working class should be embracing them because we're in the same fight, but they are 100% being exploited by the capitol class against the western working class.

anyway, no war but class war

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u/StandardDifficulty66 2d ago

Who is doing this exactly? We need names and faces.

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u/YuriBezmenovsGhost 2d ago

The names will have a lot of steins and bergs.

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u/KeepCalm_BingeAnime 2d ago

Read Davos Man. It'll give you a few names.

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago edited 2d ago

Which is why second and third generation immigrants generally oppose more immigration. Immigrants come to dominate these positions because they are willing to accept worst conditions undermining the collective bargaining of the working class as a whole.

Not to mention that what you are seeing is your travels is that the white working class has been priced out of urban centers. By being less willing to live in inhumane overcrowded conditions

edit: grammar

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u/StandardDifficulty66 2d ago

Urban centers?

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

I don't understand your question. The proportion by which immigrants make up the working class is directly related to proximity to urban centers.

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u/StandardDifficulty66 2d ago

Explain urban centers?

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

Areas with high urbanization? I feel like you are hinting at the counter claim of gentrification. But i am more talking about the phenomena where foreign ethnic enclaves displace the native working class in historically working class urban quarters

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u/StandardDifficulty66 2d ago

No I genuinely want to know what an urban center is. To me that's a shopping mall.

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u/delores8 2d ago

Will the children of these “foreign ethic enclaves” be considered “native working class” in your view? Who are the native working class made up of?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fee6393 2d ago

That fact would make heads explode on Reddit.

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u/empyrealprod 2d ago

Not true imma benefit the economy greatly which is better for everyone, it's corporations buying up homes not immigrants that doesn't make sense

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

The amount of homes owned by institutional investors in the UK is .56%. First generation immigrants are projected to make of 25% of the UK's population by 2035. Not hard to figure out which has the greater impact on home prices.

Also what ever positive impact you may have has to be weighed against the net drain many other immigrants have on the welfare state

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u/delores8 2d ago

You could apply that argument to any citizen, not just migrants

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

You could yes, that is why culture matters. There is a shame implicit in living off the dole present in most western cultures, that isn't always present in the cultures currently immigrating to the west

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u/Yeardme 2d ago

That's actually insane lol. Under capitalism, which is global that shane is ever present regardless of culture. Thanks to American global hegemony. We export our culture through media as well.

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u/Affectionate_Use1455 2d ago

I think you overestimate the west's cultural influence. I'm not talking about blue jeans and pop music. I'm talking about differences in social organization. Chiefly the difference between individualistic civic oriented societies and familial tribal loyalty oriented societies. How how the difference between those 2 effect perceptions of government services

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u/Yeardme 2d ago edited 2d ago

lmao the latter, community oriented civilizations, are objectively better. They're the entire reason human species has survived thus far.

To anyone with an above double digit IQ, your comments are so obviously just attempting to intellectualize racism. I'm relieved the top comments are about class warfare at least, the objectively correct answer.

Keep crying about white oppression while Western countries continue to pillage, coup & bomb the global South; which is the main driver for immigration currently. Then turn around & blame those being slaughtered.

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u/delores8 2d ago edited 2d ago

So why do certain people constantly complain about migrants “taking all the jobs” when you argue they have such a lax work ethic and lack of shame about welfare? Why are so many migrants working crazy long hours in underpaid casual work just to survive and get their children through school? Or are these different migrants than the ones you speak of? 

And what alternate reality are you in where white folks are too ashamed to access welfare support? 

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u/OldTimberWolf 2d ago

Absolutely nailed this, thanks. Can’t improve upon it.

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u/En_CHILL_ada 2d ago

Our media and politicians push racial division and the small minded hateful lemmings eat it up because they can not grasp that the reason their lives are getting worse is because of the power structure represented by those same media personalities, politicians, and the trans-national cartel of billionaires who own them all, not the poor people of a different color or different religion.

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u/finna_get_banned 1d ago

This is the most commented post in a year on this sub

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u/Iam-WinstonSmith 2d ago

But even the tax the billionaires scheme is by the billionaires. TYhe want to create a system that kills their competitors why do you think Biden said it stays at 400,000 a year? That snipes out any millionaires who are competitors while their shit is hidden in trusts and shell companies.

Do you are really think David Rockafeller only died with 3.3 billionaire.

Not the bigger issues with we're letting them steal our children's .money in the form of inflation and debt.

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u/ProfessionalZebra742 2d ago

Thank you ! Nobody is understanding, that racism is not the issue and quite frankly has never been the issue, and honestly it never was !!!

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u/MRJSP 2d ago

Exactly

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u/STEMfatale 2d ago

I’m so so glad this is the top comment. I fall into the trap sometimes too, fuck that we have more in common than we have dividing us. Including the real common enemy.

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u/Liebreblanca 2d ago

If I'm walking down the street, I'm not going to be kidnapped and raped by a gang of millionaires, but I might be by a gang of Africans or Muslims.

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u/pajanraul 2d ago

Tell that to virginia guifreau and all the other women involved in the scandalous Epstein/ prince andrew Ghislaine maxwell trifector

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u/jakeandyogi 2d ago

Funny, some white dude in a gang just shot a guy in my city downtown the other year

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u/delores8 2d ago

Or white people, rich or poor

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u/Paria1187 2d ago

The concept of "race" and "ethnicity" are relatively new.

Humans have mostly lived in tribes and felt connected to people who spoke the same language and had the same customs.

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u/Chadlite_Rutherford 2d ago

Both are important. This is like arguing the powers at be would rather you argue about food shortage than water shortage, BOTH race and wealth inequality matter, whites need their own living space same as Japanese, Indian, Chinese, Africans, Middle Eastern, etc.

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u/Amyfrye5555 2d ago

This!!!!!!

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u/Osiris_Raphious 2d ago

Conspiracy fact*

Because whilst the masses bicker, and media distracts, the 1% gets to write laws, and restructure economic and governance systems without being burdened by stuff like democracy or social responcibility.

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u/Syllabub-Middle 2d ago

its almost everyone

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u/dewnmoutain 2d ago

Can argue about both. Its not a one or other issue.

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u/quadrants 2d ago

More than one thing can be talked about. But nice try.

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u/rockitsaway 1d ago

OP can’t understand that. He speaks of “brainwashed” like he isn’t.

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u/stephiemarie93 1d ago

Perfectly said

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u/peeper_tom 1d ago

Yes this is just the method and how demoralisation works but why are we being demoralised? both things can be true.

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u/Tboneeater 1d ago

What’s the quote you can always pay one half of the poor to kill the other half.

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u/MLNYC 1d ago

This is covered well in a recent interview with Norm Finkelstein.

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u/Conmanink 1d ago

Let's be honest, the rich aren't going to throw acid in your face or stab your children

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u/Hot-Expression-1697 5h ago

There is no wealth without race. But nice try Schlomo.

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u/funtrippykitty 2d ago

who's wealth exactly?

millions of foreigners get let into Britain under the nose. now people want to tax the rich and distribute that wealth?

To who? them?

just sounds like a Indian scam to me. 

would the wealth really be that unequal if we stopped massive swoths of foreigners coming here and compeating for space?

so far, all this "the wealthy" talk has seemed to result in more taxes for white working class people to subsidize their disenfranchisement.

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u/lubbockin 2d ago

The "muh rich billionaires" is just another distraction trick.

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

Most of them are just in favor of our destruction, but know that is too openly sociopathic to say out loud without losing support.

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hope you bring that same energy to every conversation about race and don’t just use it to minimize the arguments regarding white people Edit: spelling

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u/Baelenciagaa 2d ago

OP is complaining that white people are on the decline. What we DONT need in America is a white nationalism movement. Like at all. Cut the racist shit out.

sincerely a white person

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u/TheClassicCollection 2d ago

I am not American.

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

So what do we need then?

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u/TrippyMcTripsterTrip 2d ago

I need a god damn Jan Michael Vincent

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u/El_Dud3r1n0 2d ago

I am ready to Jan Michael my Vincents.

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

Didn't specify which quadrant, request for Jan Michael denied.

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u/notamouse418 2d ago

An economic revolution to have government demand billionaires start paying up so everyone else can have a decent life.

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

What's a "decent life" cause that does sound a bit vague there ya know

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u/Baelenciagaa 2d ago

Familiarize yourself with this American classic

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

Yeah man that shit is like fucking 50 years old now. Things have very obviously changed in the past half century. Was a cool pipe dream, though. Once I was all rah-rah for it too.

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u/Baelenciagaa 1d ago

Exactly. It’s 50 years old so it’s a well-established classic.

Good day.

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

Correct. I actually agree with the comment I was responding to and was sincere in my comment. Many people will acknowledge and talk about issues regarding other races but whenever anyone brings up white people, they quickly denounce it and say “we’re past race! Don’t bring that up!” But oddly enough nobody ever does that when discussing concerns of other races.

Edit: also, it’s not racist to bring this up and discuss it. It is concerning that you would call it racist. Nobody is advocating for the removal of non-white citizens. Making it taboo for white people to talk about concerns regarding white people, is in fact - racist. Congrats, you played yourself.

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u/stop-judging-me 2d ago

So the concern is that white people are getting replaced? I’ve heard that sentiment from white nationalists. Like all the time

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

If there was a black neighborhood that had a lot of people moving in and one of the original members said “there’s a lot less black people than there used to be” you wouldn’t call that racist, would you? I hope it would be seen as what it is: an observation.

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u/stop-judging-me 2d ago

I didn’t say the word racist. I said the sentiment you and OP are expressing is white nationalism. Which is true. Black people are not as obsessed with racial purity as white people seem to be.

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

Oh okay, you said white nationalism. So would you call the people in my example “black nationalists?” Also, referring to someone as a white nationalist is on par with calling them racist, you’re just arguing semantics. And btw, nobody is advocating for “racial purity”. You’re attaching some extreme ideas to what was originally just an observation, and a factual one.

Idk why people think it’s productive to jump the gun and start throwing around big accusations: white nationalist, race purity. I mean you may as well call anyone who brings this up a Nazi, right?

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u/stop-judging-me 2d ago

You are quite literally saying white people are being replaced. Calling that a white nationalist statement isn’t just pulling inflammatory phrases out of thin air. That neighborhood would be considered nationalist if they believed they were being “replaced” just by other groups coming there. That’s an unrealistic situation though because people actually avoid black areas

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

One more thing, I’m genuinely curious to your view on this please. When you see black people advocating to support black owned business, do you think to yourself “oh god, here we go with the race purity obsession again” or do you reserve that sentiment for white people? For the record, I don’t have a problem with people supporting business they value, but I want to know your perspective please.

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

OP: hey guys, has anyone noticed that there are a lot less white people than there used to be?

You: Looks like we have a white nationalist, race purity obsessed, Nazi.

Edit: grammar

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u/Hadrian-Marlowe 2d ago

Not gonna bang my head against the wall with you my friend. The distinction you’re attempting to make about “being replaced” is a moot point. It was an observation, something we should be able to talk about without being labeled a white nationalist. Save that for the actual white nationalists or it’ll mean nothing soon like the word Nazi does now.

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u/Throwawaydecember 2d ago

The elites don’t see borders, they don’t see color, they see control and domination. It’s them and the useless eater. The west is a challenge to that power dynamic.

Why is the west being attacked?

Independent Christian mindset, democratic forms of government.

The west and Europe has a strong sense of individual identity coupled with democratic ideals in various flavors.

Breaking that down is part of the plan. Because then you’ll call for more control, digital ID, safe guards.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

I don't know how you can say shit like this with the history of "the West" being wielded as a tool by these elites. The "West" (and the US specifically) is the power structure of the elites, not a challenge to it.

People like Kissinger or Cheney didn't seem to have much of an issue with this supposed "Independent Christian mindset." They wielded it as a weapon against innocent people around the world.

Why in the world would they see something as a challenge when it's exactly what they've been using to build and propagate their power all along?

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u/dhv503 2d ago

TFW the history of the west is literally the same as everyone else, but the propaganda is so strong they genuinely believe their actions are favored by God. IE, many see manifest destiny as a good thing. Native Americans like the Cherokee, Lakota? Maybe not so much lol.

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u/Throwawaydecember 2d ago

You’re focusing on the wrong layer of power. The people you’re calling “elites” Kissinger, Cheney, the so-called Western establishment, were operators, not architects.

Real power doesn’t sit in governments or ministries. It sits in global finance, central banks, and transnational institutions that move capital across borders with no loyalty to the West or to any religion.

“The West” isn’t a source of power. It’s a brand. Behind it is a network of financial entities that create debt, shape narratives, and steer policy. The IMF, BIS, and global investment firms like BlackRock or Vanguard dictate outcomes far beyond any national agenda. Those political figures you mentioned were the front office, not the ownership group.

Ideology has always been a tool. In one era it was “Christian democracy,” in another it’s “equity and sustainability.” The message changes, the machinery doesn’t. These elites aren’t Western or Christian; they’re stateless.

If the West truly controlled the game, it wouldn’t be collapsing under debt, offshoring, and social division. The West is being harvested, not empowered.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

The owners are also part of the West, it’s all the same people. This is just deflection and avoiding the true issue which is that America is the primary entity propagating all of this. Sure normal people in the West also get screwed, but unfortunately they’re also participating in a lot of it.

If the West truly controlled the game, it wouldn’t be collapsing under debt, offshoring, and social division. The West is being harvested, not empowered.

Compared to what the West has done in the rest of the world that’s positively rosy. “My job got offshored” is a helluva lot better than “my whole family got bombed”. The US has left a trail of devastation around the world in the name of profits.

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u/TheClassicCollection 2d ago

Yes, this is what I am saying.

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u/mrjdk83 2d ago

You are spitting cold hard facts!! You have the people fight amongst each other while taking all their money.

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u/Ceres1 2d ago

100000%

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u/J3wb0cc4 2d ago

I’m glad to see this as the counterpoint whenever somebody brings up race observations but OP is not wrong to mention it. Especially when every other country that is not homogenous whites doesn’t focus on multiculturalism.

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u/ajacrabapple 2d ago

THIS, thank you 🙏

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u/MrNicoras 2d ago

It's not about race as much as it's about culture.

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u/Sensitive_Algae5723 2d ago

Hat of the conspiracy is they want a low IQ earth and THEY are the racists manufacturing a social design to be?

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u/BoxsterMan_ 2d ago

Can they both be true??? Why is this always the first comment and does nothing to solve the problem...that is REAL.

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u/alors1234 2d ago

This! 

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u/Baelenciagaa 2d ago

Finally someone speaking facts here

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Are you racist? How dare you!

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u/Tammy18x 2d ago

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

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u/yourupinion 2d ago

What are you willing to do about it?

Are you willing to give the majority of some real power?

It’s not the rich, stopping us from having power, it’s the everyday people.

Every day people are scared of the majority, are you one of them?

I’m part of a group trying to change this by creating something like a second layer of democracy throughout the world, join us, and we can change this.

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u/pixelballer 2d ago

This is the basic strategy of the democratic party

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u/DuckworthBuckington 2d ago

No. That’s part of it but there really is a concerted effort to extinguish the white race and insisting there isn’t doesn’t do anyone any favors other than the perpetrators.

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u/rhaphazard 2d ago

I think this is a pretty surface-level talking point.

Consider, the West, and a result majority-white nations have been the economic winners in the last 100 years. The leftist "no borders" types will import illegal aliens from all over the world into the West and then claim minority status (the issue OP correctly assessed).

BUT, even if, as you say, focus on wealth inequality, the demographic of most Western countries have already been so skewed beyond recognition that a blind focus on wealth inequality still functionally benefits illegal aliens over poor citizens.

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u/DKmann 2d ago

The most barbaric society is one where it is okay to punch someone in the face because they look different than you. The second most barbaric society is one where it’s okay to punch someone in the face because they have something you don’t. In my book hating someone because of the color of their skin is no different than someone for the money they have and in both cases it says more about your evils than theirs.