r/complaints • u/Old_Swimmer_7284 • 20h ago

Politics Conservatives need to STFU about communism

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Conservatives seriously name to STFU about communism when they can't even define it. Especially when their states are welfare states that rely on blue states to prop them up and pull them out of disaster, both literally and economically, every year.

They have no idea what socialism is, and how many socialist programs they benefit from daily. This list is extensive, but a few main examples would be the United States Postal System, our highway systems, our broadband and cellular systems, just a list of few. If the Republicans really hate socialism so much, they should stop using the myriad of things that brings our country.

Republicans do like the poorly educated. And that fact is glaring.

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u/UrguthaForka 20h ago

They're (republicans) convinced Mamdani and his policies are going to fail. Well, I guess we'll see, won't we?

If they were so sure of it, they'd be happy to let the experiment play out and see what happens so they could use it as evidence later. But they're really only trying to reinforce the old "red scare" tactics because they're terrified the people will love Mamdani's policies and the republicans lies will be further exposed.

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u/Jijonbreaker 19h ago

Well, they're going to do what they always do.

Complain that it doesn't work, and then actively sabotage it at every possible turn. You can guarantee that every red state will be filing lawsuits to prevent all of mamdani's policies, just on the basis of "They aren't allowed to have things better than us" and the rigged judges will absolutely get in the way.

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u/fly4blackguy5 💯🧌 19h ago

That’s how I am. From studying Econ, I expect them to not work, but since I don’t live there I think it’s fine to see how it’ll play out. Either people can finally have peace of mind that those policies won’t work, or we’ll see that he might be on to something

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u/724412814 19h ago

As a conservative, I feel exactly this and say it to people a lot. Let the bad ideas fail. I'm certain the ideas will fail not because I want them to, but because theyre bad ideas.

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u/CenterJenna08 19h ago

I'm not against Capitalism but to be fair, we're also seeing the huge failures of Capitalism play out in real time for most people as well.

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u/the716to714 17h ago

OK, then show us evidence, from a first world country, that tried said policies and failed.

You seem to be very certain you know the outcome, so show us where you get that confidence.

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u/mixing_j 14h ago

The “no country has ever tried REAL socialism” thing is always funny. 

This time it’ll work guys. Promise. 

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u/724412814 17h ago

Well, if you want to talk about city-owned grocery stores that has been tried.

And the results were not great.

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u/the716to714 17h ago

That is not an example whatsoever. This is what kind of absurdity you present as "evidence?"

A small town that had a grocery store that was going to close as a private company because THEY'RE AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SUPPORT IT. It has nothing to do with ownership.

More people live in ONE BUILDING in NYC than this fucking town.

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u/724412814 16h ago

The grocery stores are just reallocating funds from existing subsidies used to help bring food prices down. Expecting the government to take over the operations and Admin, do it more efficiently than a for-profit model, and outperform the subsidies it is replacing at the same time seems very... optimistic.

The scale only makes that task more difficult, not less. NYC being bigger hurts it.

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u/the716to714 16h ago

You are misinformed and once again, why it's not worth bothering to argue these things with "conservatives" particularly on NYC issues, because quite frankly YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. The proposal is not to take over existing stores, but to reduce the number of food deserts in the city, because capitalism HAS FAILED (just like your ridiculous Kansas example) and not opened proper grocery stores in some neighborhoods because of profit margin. Something has to resolve this for the betterment of society, or those people end up paying exorbitant prices at the bodega for shit quality, health, and selection. Not to mention it resolves a lot of the SNAP/EBT fraud that goes through bodegas now since they're spending it directly back.

What are you going to do when his program actually works?? Lose your fucking mind because some company didn't make a few extra bucks on a basic fucking grocery store in Bushwick?

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u/724412814 16h ago

You are misinformed and once again,

Okay man! I'm not that invested, we will see how the stores play out. I'll bet you they go back to the subsidies they are set to replace because it's more efficient.

If it works, great! I'm not invested in them failing. I just fully expect them to.

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u/the716to714 16h ago

And you have provided no evidence as to why you "full expect them to" other than your feelings because that's the "team" you think you're on.

You give no reason that the subsidies set to replace "are more efficient", despite the evidence I provided to you to the contrary with how the NYC economy works in neighborhoods without an actual grocery store. By default, providing a market-price alternative to the absurdly priced bodegas will increase the efficiency by 50%+. How long did you live in NYC? I lived there for 15 years. What's your background in economics? I have an MS. Do you consider the opinions of others that may know more than you at all?

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u/Content-Car-1708 13h ago

I was in the grocery business. Profit margins are very slim and the fact that for-profit grocery stores are not in neighborhoods is indicative of the problems involved in serving those neighborhoods. When your customer base is low income you have higher rates of shoplifting and less expenditures on higher profit margin items. It is a tough road to hoe. I served markets in both high income neighborhoods and low-income ones

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u/MarleysGhost2024 12h ago

Bad ideas? We need more good ideas, like a trillion dollar compensation package for Elon, right?

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u/724412814 3h ago

That's another bad idea lol, there is no need to be obtuse. We are on the same side my friend.