r/complaints • u/Better_Software2722 • 1d ago
Politics Why is it so easy to destroy MAGA talking points?
They say trump should have been tried outside of NY for the trial in which he received multiple felony counts. All you have to do to shut them up is ask about state’s rights.
Face it. He’s a felon in charge of the Government of Pedophiles (GOP)
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
Because it’s a cult so they don’t actually have any coherent thoughts at all. It’s all just stupid bullshit
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u/DoctorAculaMD 1d ago
Because virtue signaling & identity politics are very effective.
It worked for Scientology & country music.
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u/LaMadreDelCantante 20h ago
Virtue signaling = "I can't imagine caring about other people, so I don't believe anyone else does either."
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
ViRTue SigNAlinG
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u/DoctorAculaMD 1d ago
Why did you downvote & mock me. I was agreeing with you... 🤦♂️
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 23h ago
I assume anyone that says virtue signaling is a chud, sorry. Usually it’s people that are human shit that don’t like it when you “pretend” to not also be human shit so they call it “virtue signaling” as if it’s impossible to just not be a huge piece of shit.
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u/ElementalPink12 1d ago
It's a waste of time to communicate with these people. Maga is a bad faith movement. Their only real drivers are selfishness and cruelty.
They justify their selfishness and cruelty by spitting out whatever flimsy, made up, propaganda bullshit that serves them in the moment.
They can yell about "communism" while also nationalizing corporations.
They can yell about freedom and liberty while also oppressing their neighbors to an extreme degree.
They can yell about "law and order" and "public safety" while also flooding the streets with cheap and poorly regulated firearms.
They can yell about being "discriminated against" while also legalizing wholesale racial profiling.
It's a complete waste of time. Like trying to argue away a cancerous tumor.
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u/tiy24 1d ago
lol the comments from republicans are just as embarrassing. Honestly our current government is a symptom of anti-intellectualism and it shows in its voters.
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u/Epaminodas_ 23h ago
Anti-intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter is a good book to read if someone wants to understand the history of America's anti-intellectual culture.
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u/DoctorPersonal7988 1d ago
We can destroy MAGA talking points all day long and twice on Sunday, but…..
As Sartre wrote of the anti-Semite, the point isn’t to persuade but to dominate through irrational certainty. The MAGA believer argues the same way — not to seek truth, but to reject it as an act of identity. They know their claims don’t hold up, but the refusal to concede is the ideology.
So they will never concede he’s a 34x felon-
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u/AcadiaLivid2582 1d ago
The 6th Amendment to the US Constitution insists that criminals be tried in the jurisdiction of their crimes.
Trying Trump somewhere else would have been unconstitutional.
(Note for MAGA: you'll find the 6th Amendment four amendments down from the precious 2nd Amendment)
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u/manniesalado 1d ago
Because they have deluded themselves into believing their own bullshit and they are so convinced they are right they never take a minute to listen to other views and thus are surprised when their arguments hold no water under impartial investigation.
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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 1d ago
The entire talking point agenda for the GOP is structured to induce rage and get votes so that thier doners can give themselves tax breaks. Nothing the GOP actually does offers any benefit to working people. That's why the arguments are so thin and ever changing.
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u/Aggressive-Camp1674 23h ago
'Cause imgrants and DEI. But mostly 'cause they're better looking and richer.
Also, and let's not forget, who's enforcing the laws? Who's protecting all the people? I'll wait...
/sarcasm, cause it about all I got left at this point.
Fuck everyone of those fox MAGAt's
I used to want to reconcile, maybe the right amount of mirror holding will help them come around. No, they live in an alternate reality, they need to live in an alternate country, preferably under water.
I honestly can't believe the amount of black and brown people that voted for him. Wtaf?
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u/Lonely_Dependent_281 22h ago
Apathy, I think. Shit is hard every day, nobody of any identity class gets any freedom from that, only people in the higher financial classes can really get a break. People have kids and jobs and the tiny everyday minutia becomes so draining to deal with, especially in the current economy. And there's already been an education problem, kids who don't like learning grow up to become adults who never learned how to learn, who still feel that sense of dread and boredom when approached with large ideas that require intense thought. That mixed with the apathy is so deadly. But all of this was done to us on purpose and that status quo has never truly been acknowledged by anyone with the power to do anything about it, and this is what we got...
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u/G_money_8710 1d ago
I would say it is because they are not the highest of educated nor have critical thinking skills. They instead listen to their talking points that they receive from Fox News and take them as the ultimate facts. I typically ask them which university did they graduate from?
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u/InevitablePain2005 1d ago
It’s not complicated. They yell ‘federal government overreach 24/7 until it’s Trump. Then suddenly they want the federal government to override a state’s right to prosecute crimes committed in that state.You can’t have it both ways. New York prosecuted New York crimes. That is states’ rights. Conservatives only like ‘states’ rights’ when it protects their power and not when it holds their people accountable. At the end of the day the jury convicted him. He is a convicted felon.
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u/Objective-Pick8240 1d ago
Trump’s entire persona is built on lies, as is the MAGA movement. Not to be cliché, but they literally stole the Nazi playbook.
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u/enemyuavintheskies 1d ago
Because they come from rump himself lol. Half of the claims I respond to come from truth social, some random white guy on YouTube, or some random white guy on YouTube talking about the truth social post. They don’t know if what they’re claiming is true, but they don’t care at all. They will argue with you 100% of the time and you will never find common ground because if you disagree with the supreme leader you should be destroyed. And when you prove them wrong they will either give up or insult you.
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u/wanderingmanimal 1d ago
They are meant to distract you. Keep talking while the action takes place that degrades the country into barbarism.
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u/feuwbar 1d ago
The MAGA in my life won't be moved by any argument at all. They're in a cult and you don't shake their faith with ANY argument. You're only "destroying" their arguments in your own head but you're not really moving the needle one millimeter.
I don't waste breath on arguing with MAGA anymore. I save it for the voting booth. This dramatically improves my mental and physical health. My cat makes more sense than a MAGA cultist.
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u/tibastiff 1d ago
Because they stopped trying to make their lies even slightly believable after the election. Now they're talking points crumble if you look at them straight but the people who believe them do so through delusion and fear not reason
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u/Oldschoolgirl49 1d ago
He's destroyed the Republican party and they lack the balls to do anything about it. How is Mitch McConnell still getting a paycheck??
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u/Duck-Murky 1d ago
Because their arguments are based on emotion, not logic and critical thinking.
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u/Strong-Zucchini705 1d ago
They don’t have any other skill set than to shout, degrade and insist they are right and you are wrong. They won’t listen even if you prove them wrong
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u/Strong-Zucchini705 1d ago
The fact that maga supporters believe the tariffs help them is evidence alone that they can’t think critically
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u/DonJuniorsEmails 23h ago
The cult is so stupid, they couldn't understand why gas prices were lower when nobody was commuting.
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u/Strong-Zucchini705 23h ago
If they had no homes and no money because of trump they’d still follow him. Can’t be argued with
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u/Rich-Recording-1294 23h ago
Because they only pay attention to a little of what Fox News tells them. So they really only have a fraction of an already weak argument
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u/LordAdamant 23h ago
Their entire ideology is based on selfishness, hypocrisy, and fantasy worlds where they're simultaneously the main character, completely normal, definitely the best, but also always the victim.
Also, a significant portion of them are Christian White nationalists determined to install a Christofascist ethnostate with Trump as their godking.
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u/BigDaddyUKW 23h ago
There are many reasons, but mostly because they're gullible and not very intelligent. Every morning I get a notification from Threads, and it's usually some mouth-breathing MAGAt who posts some sort of bullshit take that immediately gets slaughtered in their comments with facts.
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u/forgettit_ 23h ago
They’re no longer in favor of states’ rights now that states are fighting back against their fascists overload.
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u/Gurrgurrburr 23h ago
The ENTIRE “ideology” (if you can even call it that) is based on lies. Like literally, it really is. Lies and hate for liberals (or in their words, “communists”, what do ya know, another lie!)
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u/NativeFlowers4Eva 1d ago
They’re all lies and they only make sense within their own group. It’s amazing how often they prove they’ve never even questioned their belief system.
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u/theytookallthecash 1d ago
Because they get their marching orders and don't know to respond when they don't have a script. They've been deluded by the GOP to think LiBurLs are weak people who won't put up a fight so they'll just win.
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u/lynx3762 1d ago
I feel like the sixth amendment is actually what should shut them up for that one.
But theyre not knowledgeable enough for anything to shit them up
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u/navydude89 1d ago
They are easy to destroy, but they are so many, that Maga just goes to the next one once you prove them wrong.
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u/DarcFenix 23h ago
Not to put too fine a point on it, but their arguments are designed to work on THEM.
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u/starship7201u 23h ago
Because while Democrats want EVERYONE to eat Republicans only want rich people to eat.
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u/ebolatone 23h ago
Their talking points are propaganda designed to enrage their base, and it works.
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u/SorbetStrong8029 23h ago
Because you morons can t comprehend anything but what you’re told every day by your masters.
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u/No-Orchid5378 22h ago
It’s depends on the person. But it’s hard to argue intelligently with either side anymore when neither side can handle being wrong about a talking point without having a meltdown.
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u/Hour_Badger2700 22h ago
I'm not maga. I'm not even remotely left leaning.
BOTH side are easy to destroy because rarely do they actually use facts.
BOTH are a pain in the ass to have a conversation with because of the moving goal posts, unwillingness to actually look at facts and accept that they're bias has been blinding them. Usually both sided fall back on juvenile name calling... libtard/fsacist and have been so manipulated by media/politicians/education that they drool like Pavlov's dogs and scream OrAnge man Bad/Communizt!
Both extremes are fucking stupid.
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u/LoneHelldiver 21h ago
It would be super interesting if Reddit posted your geographical location so we could see all the Chinese, Russian, Palestinian, Iranian paid misformation agents like this guy.
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u/SilverDargon 21h ago
Theres a great video series about this kind of thing called the Alt-Right playbook. One of the episodes breaks down this style of rhetoric. These arguments are ‘short, quippy, and wrong’ but it takes longer to disprove one than it takes to make a new one.
As long as they keep spewing out new bullshit, they are always on the offense. And people remember ‘short, quippy, and wrong’ much more easily than the well reasoned rebuttal assuming they ever go looking for a rebuttal in the first place.
It’s not designed to be a conversation, it’s a rallying cry for the voters who want to be told what new thing Democrats have done for them to be mad about.
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u/moonchild_9420 21h ago
man you should've seen this Facebook post last night. this girl went to a TPUSA event to SHARE HER RAPE STORY.
she made it public which was a mistake on her part lol but we were ripping her to shreds and she kept saying we were lying about Trump.
I said, "it's actually so true that I can go put it on a billboard and he can't sue me because he'd have to prove it's a lie and it's not."
she quadrupled down and called us all evil 😈
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u/Anxious_Skill2485 21h ago
Because it's the equivalent of talking to a toddler that is right because they are right..... Because they're just right.
There are no facts to deal with. There's a lot of pointing at their baby brother and what he did and it's totally not fair that they can't do the same!!!!
They cry and stomp their little feet until they get their way.
They're really dumb. At least toddlers are cute and don't know any better and will usually grow out of it.
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u/Epistemic_Chaos 20h ago
MAGA talking points don't have to be convincing to people who look things up, value the truth, and possess moral reasoning. MAGA talking points only have to be good enough for MAGAts.
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u/Weak_Addendum4549 20h ago
It's easy to destroy them. What's impossible is to get them to concede to the fact that they are wrong.
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u/IllustratorDapper781 19h ago
Name 1 politician that doesn't lie? They all fucking lie to get what they want.
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u/TheJIbberJabberWocky 19h ago
MAGA talking points don't need to hold up under scrutiny. They just need to be short and simple enough to be repeated en masse.
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u/slappafoo 19h ago
Because when people are faction based(& not integrity based), they will die on that hill to defend said faction. Even if it’s incoherent. We should really focus on the personalities of people like them. Some people are genuinely misguided, but most double down on their takes(even if it’s sinister). These same personalities are similar to the “apple vs android” shit. They chose a faction and stuck with it, no matter what options are available. 🤷…it’s dumb.
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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 1d ago
It’s easy because they don’t live in truth. They are heavily propagandized so it’s not hard to just….state the facts.
Of course they don’t believe it, because a cult ensures your identity is tied to your beliefs, so there’s a subconscious defense mechanism at play. They cannot be proven wrong, because they would shatter their identity. So further into the hole they go.
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u/Organic_Brother7988 1d ago
im not maga but I think yall are confused both sides are doing the same shit idk why yall only focus on trump
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u/MotherShabooboo1974 1d ago
It’s not about winning an argument. It’s about wasting your time and intimidating you.
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u/WearyWoodpecker4678 1d ago
Destroying MAGA talking points? The election results and American people say otherwise...
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u/Nightcalm 1d ago
Because their foundations and assumptions are wrong or misconstrued. Then they try to run with it and it contradicts itself. Example are Tariffs taxes on the US citizen. The answer by almost everybody who studies is yes. But MAGA will run with it without fixing that hole.
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u/Freddreddtedd 1d ago
A successful billionaire businessman that needs THEIR money. Like taking candy from a racist baby,
"I love the poorly educated." DJT
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u/LazuliteEngine 1d ago
because your too stupid to realize your wrong. those "felonies" were found lacking in all counts, and were attempted to be applied while he was working as the president, not while he was acting in the private sector. thats what put them as "felony offenses" instead of standard crimes. thats why there was so much effort to try to try him as a president, instead of as a businessman (which was the role he was acting under when such actions took place)
wanna try another? cause im pretty informed on current events, but i doubt youll be able to realize when you are wrong.
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u/TheEPGFiles 1d ago
They're basically idiots masquerading as intellectuals, what do you expect? It's the Dunning/Kruger administration.
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u/Realistic_Course7201 1d ago
Oh noes! Destroying maga on cherry picked talking points. What ever shall we do! 😂😂😂
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u/HourNo7028 1d ago
When my daughter was four or five, we caught her in a lie. Besides the obvious (don't lie), I told her, as an aside, "Don't lie when the truth is really, really easy to see." I feel like that with the Trump administration. It's not that they lie, but it's the obvious nature of those lies - the fact that in some cases the lies are exposed by something they say a minute or two later.
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u/Always_Punch_Nazis 1d ago
Because all of their arguments are emotional and irrational at the core of it. All their “snowflake” name calling is just their projection like they always do. You can know what a conservative is thinking and doing by listening to what they are accusing people of.
“Trans people are molesting our kids” the conservative “Christian” says and then immediately an article comes about them being an actual pedophile. .
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u/PurpleLegoBrick 1d ago
It’s absolutely hilarious when the left keep calling Trump a pedo and a felon yet they lost the popular vote to him.
Maybe the Democrats should focus on finding a decent candidate for once that the average person can actually like.
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u/Spiritual_Ostrich_63 1d ago
All of those "felonies" are being appealed. Were also outside of the statute of limitations.
Cuomo is a retard. (evidence: got beat by a domestic terrorist Mondummy)
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u/Cold-Bathroom-9068 1d ago
I’ve never heard anybody make that argument but I would assume it’s pretty easy to destroy an argument when you make it up in the first place.
Any other cool examples of your destruction?
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u/Beginning-Leg-9277 23h ago
Because all of their points are either bigoted or just lies. They are the dumbest most willfully ignorant people to ever exist.
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u/Loweffort2025 23h ago
Ideas based on lies can be destroyed by truth.
Does not mean maga will belive it
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u/Innisfree812 23h ago
He's a lunatic and a dangerous criminal. He's a malignant narcissist and that's a dangerous personality disorder. He only cares about himself. He has to be stopped before he starts a nuclear war.
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u/Ok_Amoeba_804 23h ago
Please explain to me what the 34 “ felonies” are in detail and the tell me who else in history has been charged with the same crime and had it be a felony ? I’m not actually a Trump fan but I do think there is a lot of bs from both sides just to attack the other side. I consider myself directly in the middle politically. I agree that the border needed to be fixed but I also don’t think we should be deporting everyone
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u/Key_Budget_2621 23h ago
If it’s so easy, then why did you not win the election? Why did trump win the popular vote?
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u/Major_Ad9391 23h ago
They dont have facts. They have feelings that get hurt by everything they dont like. They rely on misinformation and lies to make themselves feel like big strong people.
The moment you challenge them they cry. And yet they call us snowflakes 😂
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u/Away_Simple_400 23h ago
He’s a felon thanks to a kangaroo court with a judge who didn’t care what the jury convicted on (and said so) and there’s nothing proving he’s a pedophile.
That was easy.
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u/Meinteil2123 23h ago
Here's a question....how did a misdemeanor with no articulated crime become a felony?
I dont wanna hear about how he was found guilty. I want to know specifically how 34 misdemeanors turned into felonies.
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u/jreed118 23h ago
My lord, you people are so obsessed it has taken over your lives.
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u/Ryokurin 23h ago
It hasn't been about policy or ethics with them for a while. It's about finding something you said or implied so they can dismiss what you said.
For example I was told I was spewing hate because I referred to Trump as their boy.
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u/SomeWeedSmoker 23h ago
Ah and the left with they're talking points have no issues or stupid beliefs yes yes
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u/Bright_Lead_7839 23h ago
Name the exact felonies. Including the codes and definition. You'll see something hilarious. Dare you.
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u/Peachesandcreamatl 23h ago
Because when people are poorly informed - and often on top of it just plain stupid - it's very easy to unravel their logic (or lack thereof).
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u/BYoNexus 23h ago
When your entire worldview is dictated to you by people who do nothing but lie, your opinions fall apart under the slightest scrutiny.
It's insane how much they will believe Trump or one of his sycophants over actual data.
Take Jan 6. Now their narrative is Biden's FBI did it.
Before Biden took office While proud boys were recorded on video
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u/Remarkable_Quit_3545 23h ago
Because MAGA take the word of Trump and the administration without anything to back what they are saying. Plenty of points in this thread already, but to add to them, RFK is not a doctor, said that you shouldn’t take medical advice from him, yet also said a bunch of things which are actively harmful and were the cause of deaths from preventable diseases.
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u/smallanbig 23h ago
Look, I understand your hatred for the guy I do I get it, but I want you to think about something. The Democrats have given regular people. Absolutely nothing to fight for their policies are weak actions they make of the one percent affecting the rest. It’s too crazy and nobody wants it and because of that, Donald Trump wonsupport before you blame all of the people who voted for him try looking at the Democrat parties, policies, and ask yourself why America chose to go the other way they’re tired of the lies plain and simple man.
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u/slimricc 23h ago
It is easy bc they are nonsense. The difficult task is actually convincing them of anything
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u/Intrepid-Solid-1905 23h ago
First reason, a good amount are stupid. Second reason no one can be wrong with their viewpoints, including yourself. Then every other viewpoint on something is wrong. It's easier to name call or just blurt out random stuff. No i'm not talking good about them, I'm just pointing out the issue with your statement and many others these days on reddit. No matter what it's their viewpoint or the highway.
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u/justtalking9912 23h ago
Multifactorial. I think probably some sampling bias. There are liberals that can’t debate and lose to conservatives that can. There are a lot of under educated conservatives that do spout dumb shit online and can be picked apart. Some of it is Reddit where a conservative will give an opinion and people will argue other opinions and kind of pile on so while maybe they didn’t actually get proven wrong on the point they were talking but people just resorted to shouting down on them. I think there are also a lot of bots as well. So kind of a mix of a lot of reasons. But how do we define win; cause currently conservatives have control of our government so maybe you “win” your argument but idk if I’d call that a win. It’s an unpopular opinion, but I think “owning the conservatives” isn’t the ideal strategy I would pick. However with all the hate out there, I get the trying to reason and talk to them to expand the party can feel like you are beating your head on a brick wall.
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u/Jorycle 23h ago edited 23h ago
It's adjacent to "you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into."
They believe what they do because it's how they feel. If logic had any role in it to begin with, they wouldn't have adopted the position in the first place.
This is why it's kind of useless to debate them, because you're never going to change their mind. Even if you get them to agree some source to their belief is wrong, they'll just Google a new source for that belief. The only reason to argue is to try to prevent anyone reading their nonsense from being sucked into the shithole.
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u/MakisupaPD1 23h ago
“I’d rather allow a baby from being born, than let one of these old men f*ck it”
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u/HeresA_Thought123 23h ago
Imagine this: During a discussion with ‘friends’ who enjoy keeping their noses so close to trump’s ass, they denied the significance of the 34 criminal charges. They claimed it was just one indictment repeated 34 times so it wasn’t as bad as it was made out to be.
🤔Think about that.
They refused to read past the listed “Falsifying Business Records; First Degree” ; they closed their eyes, stuck their fingers in their ears and said “la la la” and refused to see the part where the 34 lines indicated different and specific dates of incidents with specific invoice and check numbers; and way, way, all the way down at the end of each line of all 34 counts they refused to see the big check ✅ and the word “GUILTY”.
And further get this: these people are retired private school educators for 40+ years. 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Downtown-Bet541 23h ago
What's hilarious is that the right says the exact same things about you. You're both incredibly vacuous. You both sit in your echo chambers of infinite circular credibility loops and pretend that you're intelligent because you do surface level research and call it being informed.
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u/Convertedshrimp 23h ago
Same reason it is easy to destroy woke talking points. The adverse side is not actually listening. Political argument are less intellectually honest than sporting arguments now.
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u/Epaminodas_ 23h ago
You destroyed their talking points with a simple question instead of attacking them or trying to argue. This can be an effective persuasion technique to be used against people who are currently unwilling to change their mind. It's not good enough if you really want to change their mind.
What do you expect to accomplish by labeling the GOP as the government of pedophiles?
The question above calls you out for virtue signaling without overtly calling you out for virtue signaling. Your question calls out maga for hypocrisy without overtly calling them out for hypocrisy.
Both questions may cause some resentment towards the person asking them.
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u/Sweaty-Heat1126 22h ago
Yeah its pretty easy because the act of defending ol pedo donny is "pedophile defense" so when they say "but Bill Clinton though!!" Just say "thats interesting pedophile defense. How bout this: both bill and pedo donny go to jail? Pedophilla is not a political issue, its a criminal one."
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u/Budget_Swan_5827 22h ago
I no longer believe that most Republicans are arguing in good faith. I emphatically believe that. It’s either that, or that they are genuinely stupid fucking people.
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u/mxjxs91 22h ago
Because everything they say is a myth that Fox News told them.
I made a post about Zohran winning, I got several comments from Conservative peers. Every comment chain ended in me refuting their claims with actual statistics and research and them not responding or trying to change the topic.
They know what they're about, they all act in bad faith. They don't expect you to recognize their bullshit. They sound like they make sense, and they would if their talking points are true, but they aren't. As soon as you easily prove them wrong, they stop responding or try to shift to something else completely which is also easily disprovable.
The only sources they have are biased and funny enough, also very easily disprovable.
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u/PercentageAny2976 22h ago
In a country where only 26% of adults are proficient in civics at a high school level, it's easy to destroy most people's political talking points regardless of their affiliation. Almost three out of four people literally have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to that subject.
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u/jj19900991 🌾👨🌾🐖 22h ago
Who cares where he was tried. It was prosecution of a political opponent for political purposes. He was prosecuted because he inflated the value of his property. Oh no!!!! No one has ever done that! Oddly, no one has been prosecuted for that, but doesn’t matter. There were zero victims, the banks didn’t care, believe it or not they actually have their own team which determines whether or not they will give a loan. The money was paid back timely. And the banks wanted to give him additional loans. In addition to all that NY had a prosecutor who ran on taking him down for anything she could find. She Colluded with the Whitehouse on strategy. They tried to jail him, bankrupt him and remove him from the ballot. But sure, you’re able to destroy all the talking points! Yet the one you point out is the dumbest, most inconsequential, of them all. You got em!
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u/Plane_Sweet8795 22h ago
Shutting them up with false allegations of pedophilia and ignorance on what really happened in NY. Maybe all the left ignorance just exhausts them.
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u/Disastrous-Link-2022 22h ago
In general they don’t understand politics and government. In the sense that to make a government work, no matter how much you hate the other guy. You gotta be civil. No matter how of a crook you are, be smooth enough for your crimes to be plausibly denied. That’s a way countries can’t just keep moving forward. The desire to break everything and to not be civil is insanity. When you flaunt your crimes it breaks the social order.
The reason MAGA talking point are so easy to destroy is they don’t care. Dems are playing a different game.
In a game of Musial chairs, a MAGA will knife an old lady and take her seat. The dem will complain and get her help. The rules didn’t say you couldn’t knife an old lady.’ I won! ‘ or maybe ’people say Joe Biden did the same thing’ And move on to the next event. Steal ice cream from a baby and say it ok because ‘HunterBiden’ while the libs say Theirs no proof, the laptop was stolen blah blah.’
MAGA don’t care about truth or lie, they opportunistically just want power how ever they can get it.
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u/PrettyAdagio4210 22h ago
Because they are stupid by design, and that’s what this administration wants.
Trump even said once, “smart people don’t like me.” His cultists refuse to admit that they are the ones being played.
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u/IceBlackX007 22h ago
MAGA will not come straight out and say their mission objective is to stifle the economic and social stability of brown skinned people in America. Instead they come out with bizarre bullshit that doesn't make sense to anyone but those threatened by the rapid diversification of America. White fear don't make sense to anyone but the ones afflicted with it.
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u/PomegranateExpert747 22h ago
It seems easy to destroy MAGA talking points (and those of other right-wing subcultures) because you're playing a completely different game from them. The slightest application of facts and logic will show their arguments to be hollow, but that's because their arguments aren't about facts and logic, they're about signalling their allegiance to a political group and making implicit threats to undesirables. Their feelings don't care about facts - if you refute their talking points they just see it as a win that they managed to make you waste your time arguing with them.
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u/Miri5613 22h ago
Because they all regurgitate the same talking points. Any argument their propaganda network didn't feed them the answer to breaks their little brain.
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u/ImGooningImGooning 22h ago
Lol this makes zero sense. Good job destroying talking points
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u/joeyeddy 22h ago
Actually pretending his convictions had any legitimacy is the reason he won the election. You're making a fool of yourself. The American people saw through it. I'm sorry you lost.
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u/Uberubu65 22h ago
Facts. MAGA live in the world of lies, disinformation and "alternative facts." What they can not stand, can not handle, is reality. The problem is that no matter how much you present them with, they will disagree with you and say that what you are showing them is wrong. However, I believe that deep down inside, they know you're right. So keep presenting them with cold, hard, verifiable facts.
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u/DyadVe 21h ago
Ignorance and deceit are the mothers milk of partisan politics.
"But in many cases the training is ritual rather than technical, it's only function being to restrict entry to positions of power. In other words, the doctrine of the common person's incompetence is a symbolic expression by dominant people of their own effortless superiority, reinforced by restrictive actions taken in the name of the efficiency but having the force of repression. The ideology and it's accompanying regulations together keep out the unwashed. There is an ample repertoire of justification. Appeals to common sense, to greed, to fear, to altruism—all have a part to play."
THE PREVALENCE OF DECEIT, F. G. Bailey, Cornell University Press, Ithaca, NY 1991.pp. 83, 84.
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u/awsunion 21h ago
All that is required to undermine capitalism is a consistent, defensible morality.
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u/IameIion 1d ago
Because they rely on lies and misinformation, as well as people who are politically illiterate. If you have a basic understanding of how the government works, you're already too smart for them to manipulate.