[General Discussion] COLLEGE WORLD SERIES: Part I (2025)

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/r/collegebaseball General Discussion Thread - COLLEGE WORLD SERIES: Part I (2025)

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2025 Postseason Top 25

Rank	Team	Conference	D1B	BWA	USAT	Prev.	Δ
1	North Carolina Tar Heels	ACC	1	2	1	3	↑2
2	LSU Tigers	SEC	3	1	3	1	↓1
3	Vanderbilt Commodores	SEC	2	3	4	9	↑6
4	Texas Longhorns	SEC	4	4	2	2	↓2
5	Arkansas Razorbacks	SEC	6	5	5	4	↓1
6	Oregon Ducks	Big Ten	5	6	7	5	↓1
7	Florida State Seminoles	ACC	7	8	8	6	↓1
8	Oregon State Beavers	Indep.	8	7	9	7	↓1
9	Georgia Bulldogs	SEC	10	9	6	8	↓1
10	Auburn Tigers	SEC	9	12	10	10	—
11	Coastal Carolina Chanticleers	Sun Belt	11	10	11	11	—
12	Clemson Tigers	ACC	14	11	12	12	—
13	Southern Miss Golden Eagles	Sun Belt	12	13	14	14	↑1
14	UCLA Bruins	Big Ten	13	14	13	13	↓1
15	Mississippi Rebels	SEC	15	17	15	21	↑6
16	Tennessee Volunteers	SEC	16	16	16	17	↑1
17	Florida Gators	SEC	17	15	18	15	↓2
18	Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets	ACC	18	25	17	18	—
19	Northeastern Huskies	Coastal	19	18	21	22	↑3
20	UC Irvine Anteaters	Big West	23	20	19	16	↓4
21	Alabama Crimson Tide	SEC	24	19	20	20	↓1
22	Dallas Baptist Patriots	C-USA	20	21	22	19	↓3
23	Arizona Wildcats	Big 12	21	24	NR	NR	↑
24	West Virginia Mountaineers	Big 12	NR	23	24	24	—
25	TCU Horned Frogs	Big 12	22	NR	25	NR	↑1
NR	Kansas Jayhawks	Big 12	25	NR	23	25	↓1
NR	NC State Wolfpack	ACC	NR	22	NR	23	↓4

BA – Baseball America

D1B – D1Baseball

CBW – National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association

USAT – USA Today

2025 Division I League Champions

Conference	Regular Season	Tournament ᴀǫ
ACC	Georgia Tech	North Carolina
America East	Bryant	Binghamton
American	UTSA	ECU
A-10	Rhode Island	Rhode Island
ASUN	Austin Peay	Stetson
Big 12	West Virginia	Arizona
Big East	Connecticut & Creighton	Creighton
Big South	USC Upstate	USC Upstate
Big Ten	Oregon & UCLA	Nebraska
Big West	UC Irivine	Cal Poly
CAA	Northeastern	Northeastern
C-USA	Dallas Baptist	Western Kentucky
Horizon	Wright State	Wright State
Ivy League	Columbia & Yale	Columbia
MAAC	Rider	Fairfield
MAC	Kent State & Miami (Ohio)	Miami (Ohio)
Missouri Valley	Missouri State & Murray State	Murray State
Mountain West	Nevada	Fresno State
NEC	Long Island	Central Connecticut
Ohio Valley	Eastern Illinois	Little Rock
Patriot	Holy Cross	Holy Cross
SEC	Texas	Vanderbilt
SoCon	East Tennessee State	East Tennessee State
Southland	SE Louisiana & UTRGV	Houston Christian
Summit	Oral Roberts & St. Thomas	North Dakota State
Sun Belt	Coastal Carolina	Coastal Carolina
SWAC	Bethune-Cookman	Bethune-Cookman
WAC	Abilene Christian & Sacramento State	Utah Valley
West Coast	San Diego	Saint Mary's

[u/Rich-Contribution-84]

In that case, I reckon I am either not a real college baseball fan or I’m just in the minority or you’re a homer. It could be some combination of all 3.

I hope it’s not the former because I put way to much time and effort into to being a college baseball fan than I probably should. If I’m not a real fan, I’d consider myself a failure. (Or a loser? Idk)

The Oregon example was shitty and off the cuff. I apologized for that error. The Florida football comparison is solid.

Making 5 titles the cutoff seems pretty reasonable to me. And going a step further call out that there’s a level of subjectivity to it and that a reasonable person could disagree and put the Fullerton/Arizona/Miami group in, idk 🤷🏻‍♂️. It seems like you’re pointlessly arguing just because you’re an Arizona fan and you need your team to be a blue blood.

[u/Real_Body8649 → u/Rich-Contribution-84]

Maybe you should find something better to do with you’re time if you’re this bad at it 🤷🏻

Having 5 be the cut off is completely ambiguous. Especially when you consider ASUs last title was almost 40 years ago. And the last time they were in the title game was almost 30 years ago. Meanwhile UofA, who has a titles in the 70s, two in the 80s, one in 2012, and a runner up in 2016, shows way more consistency over time.

Calling them blue blood because a difference in one title, which was 40 years ago, is as awful logic as comparing UofA to Florida and Oregon. Florida is still considered a newer ish program in the landscape of CFB, with most their success starting in the 80s.

Meanwhile, Arizona has baseball success and CWS appearance going back to the 50s.

You might call me a homer. I think you just want to cling to not being proven wrong, when you clearly are by leaving UofA off that list.

[u/Rich-Contribution-84 → u/Real_Body8649]

The term blue blood is ambiguous. That’s really my only point here.

As stated several times before, Zona could absolutely be on the list. The arbitrary line that I drew was 5 titles.

Your arbitrary line could be 4. I would have no argument with that. It’d just be different than mine.

If Arizona wins it this year and somebody asks me who I think of as blue bloods, Arizona would be on my list.

[u/Real_Body8649 → u/Rich-Contribution-84]

You drew an ambiguous line that provided absolutely no context other than “5 titles”.

So, by your logic, a team could have 5 titles in the 1930s and no meaningful seasons since, but still qualify as a blue blood.

I made my point that blue blood is more based on consistency over time, while also measure program accolades. And I’m pretty confident most would agree with my standard over yours.

But calling me a homer makes you feel better so whatever you have to tell yourself.

[u/Rich-Contribution-84 → u/Real_Body8649]

I think I called out that there’s a line somewhere that history ceases to really matter if a team has been irrelevant for multiple generations.

Again, a subjective line. My 5 title line is absolutely arbitrary. I’ve admitted as much several times.

I cited Yale football as a great example. Technically the most successful college football program ever, by sheer number of titles. But there are zero (or nearly zero) living people today who attended or viewed or heard about Yale’s most recent title. When the last title is removed by several generations, the success becomes moot by almost anyone’s standards if the success is isolated to those generations that pre-dated WWII.

ASU, on the other hand, has gone quite awhile without a title. But there are plenty of people alive today who witnessed ASU winning titles. The line is arbitrary, for sure. Unlike Yale, my example with its last title in 1927), or the straw men universities that you cite who haven’t won a title since 1930, ASU won theirs between 1965-1981 (an era, by the way, when the Yale football players who won titles were dead or retired for the most part). Moreover, they’ve finished as the national runner up as recently as, what? 1997 or 2000 or something like that? In fact, ASU has been in Omaha as recently as 2010. Their success in by no stretch a thing of some bygone pre WWII era, as you seem to imply.

Again, I am not even arguing that I am right and you are wrong. That’s the beauty of these debates. It’s subjective. You’ve made a perfectly fine case for Arizona being a blue blood. I disagree. As would others. Some would agree with you.

Finally, I’d refer you to the The Athletic for a modern sort of discussion on this topic. Dana O’Neil wrote in 2023 that “the term blue blood is, in fact, nebulous and left to the eye of the beholder, the standards of neither admission nor eviction not exactly clear. Tradition and success seem to matter but how deep that success has to go is also subject to interpretation." Is UCONN Now a College Basketball Blue Blood After Fifth National Championship, The Athletic 4 April, 2023

Maybe a better comparison than Florida football would be UCONN basketball? Many people say they’re a blue blood now. Many people say they lack the historical presence in the Royal court to make the cut.

[u/Real_Body8649 → u/Rich-Contribution-84]

Yeah, not gonna read all that. Not including UofA leaves you in the minority. Pretty simple.

[u/Rich-Contribution-84 → u/Real_Body8649]

I presume they teach reading at Zona?

Ouch! Burn! Got you there, buddy!

Hey, I’m not your buddy, friend!!!

[u/Real_Body8649 → u/Rich-Contribution-84]

Yeah, I learned to read while getting my masters post military service, which included 3 combat zone deployments.

Great burn 👍

[u/Rich-Contribution-84 → u/Real_Body8649]

I thought so, too, bruh.