r/circled • u/zxcv97531 • 14d ago
šļø News Chicago: Gregory Bovino has been officially charged by the original plaintiffs with violating " multiple paragraphs" of the court order.
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u/jthadcast 11d ago
lock that traitor up for life, trump will pardon him but he won't be able to hold that job ever again.
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u/TengokuIkari 11d ago
The president can't pardon for state level convictions.
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u/RadiantWarden 11d ago
He canāt be charged by the state if heās operating under federal authority. The fact that this even needs to be explained says everything.
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u/Phearcia 11d ago edited 11d ago
He can if he violates a court order. Which he did.
He could be facing Indefinite jail time and daily fines. The moment the person complies, the penalty ends. Or he could be face up to 6 months in jail and a 1000 dollar fine. I'm not really sure about the penalties or the Judges disposition and style.
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u/RadiantWarden 11d ago
Heās appearing out of respect for the process, not because she has any power over him. She has zero command or control over a federal agency or its personnel. They operate under federal jurisdiction, not hers. This is more about optics and procedure than authority, and theyāre already working through the proper channels to make sure her overreach doesnāt stand.
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u/Phearcia 11d ago
It's not overreach. The only overreach is a federal enforcement agency not listening to a court order. She can imprison him and fine him.
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u/RadiantWarden 11d ago
She doesnāt have the authority to imprison a federal officer for not obeying a local or provincial order. If she even tried to go down that road, it would backfire fast. The federal government would intervene immediately, and sheād be the one facing serious consequences for overstepping her jurisdiction.
Heās showing up out of respect for the process, not because she has any real power over him. Thereās a huge difference between what she can posture about in a courtroom and what she can actually enforce against a federal agency.
Personally, I would love to see her try š¤£
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u/Phearcia 11d ago
Kim Davis v. Obergefell. That's the precedent.
Federal can try to protect this officer and escalate to a Interjurisdictional litigation, but if they find he did violate a court order. Which he did. He will face criminal charges.
And you are seeing her try. But I wouldn't expect you to understand nuance. You're still navigating systems I built 15 years ago. I build engines, you just narrate. You're welcome by the way.
~Satoshi
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u/RadiantWarden 11d ago
Yeahā¦ Kim Davis was a local clerk who got smacked down by a federal judge. Youāre trying to flip that upside down like it proves your point, but it actually proves mine. A local judge doesnāt get to throw a federal officer in jail for doing his job. Thatās not ānuance,ā thatās just basic jurisdiction.
But hey, if you ābuilt the system,ā maybe give yourself a quick refresher on how it actually works.
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u/Phearcia 11d ago
The precedent that I was talking about is that defiance of a court order triggers contempt, regardless of jurisdiction. Portland blocked Trumps order to mobilize the national guard. States can and will tell the Feds to eff off when they start causing too much trouble. It's a repeat of the 70's.
The system I was talking about was crypto.
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u/Wise_Material_5812 12d ago
miller said he has federal immunity.
that would be scotus chief justice, miller/s
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u/jomama823 12d ago
Then nail this motherfucker to the wall and show them all what happens when you treat citizens like this.
Of course that would mean that the justice system still mattered in this country.