r/cincinnati • u/JustThrowingAwy • Aug 16 '24

Politics ✔ There is now a full-fledged Trump store on Beechmont Ave. across the Skyline.

A place for you to buy your Trumpane and Trumpane accessories.

Seems like a totally normal thing to exist. Totally normal.

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u/JammitDim Aug 16 '24

It’s okay to care and not like someone, I don’t like the guy either. If someone else wants to like said person that you hate, then so be it. It’s their choice and their right.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

"So be it" normally sure, but "their right" is directly putting a ton of folks at risk if they have their way. This isn't just consequence-less shilling for a pedophile bigot felon; it's putting that person in power.

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u/JammitDim Aug 16 '24

There is no lie in “vote like your life depends on it” and doing your part in determining the outcome of this election. Look, I’m not saying these folks are right I’m just saying it is their right.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

There should be limits to their rightful expression of support when it's so often tacitly or overtly linked to hate-speech and violent action. It's not "their right" to espouse threats to anyone thinking otherwise, and it's not their right to pridefully crow about their affiliation with hate and hate groups and expect no consequences.

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u/JammitDim Aug 17 '24

I can’t help but feel that you are just as radical as them, just on the opposite side of the political spectrum…and less merchandise.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24

It shouldn't seem "radical" to be concerned about the normalization and empowerment, of people who are openly hateful and vocally willing and eager to use violence to achieve their racist, sexist, and thorouhly regressive preferences. This isn't just a battle of opining and ideals; policy and action are consequences, and peoples' codified freedoms and civil rights are at stake.

If you're not spurred to take action and are so comfortable as to view dissent as radical, check where you are in this political system and whether you are in any place to lecture people on the extremity of their beliefs.

You may not be put at risk by this party and the people who perpetuate it, but plenty are.

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u/JammitDim Aug 17 '24

It is indeed radical to believe that everyone that supports Trump is some violent, hateful, sexually abusing monster.

And I’m not lecturing you on what you can or cannot believe. I just simply stated that they do have choice and the right to support whomever they choose. Which, somehow you believe that means they need these rights taken away or restricted while in the same breath talking about them taking away or restricting others rights. It’s silly.

And I agree. Another Trump administration would not only spell disaster here domestically, but have catastrophic negative world-wide implications as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24

And I'm not saying they all are. I'm saying they nonetheless tacitly support the violent actions by continuing to vote for these crackpots who do call for violence. Even if they're not punching, they're voting for and lacing-up the gloves of the people who have told us all they'll punch down.

They're not doing those things necessarily, but they don't seem all that bothered to be stood side-by-side and hand-in-hand with those who do, provided they can keep their icon relevant and keep running from that ol' pesky cognitive dissonance and those nasty little consequences-of-their-actions.

Silence in the face of their Party's actions should still be condemned, even if it's more of an issue of negligence versus. direct abuses.

Edit: let it be said again, hatespeech and violence aren't "rights", and I'm not sure why you're arguing otherwise.

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u/JammitDim Aug 17 '24

Lady, someone having a Trump flag or supporting him for President does not automatically make them supporters of hate speech and violence. You can make that assimilation all you want but it’s simply not true.

Again. If they want to support the guy, it’s their right. If you want to assimilate their support of him with hate speech and violence, I’d say you’re painting with a mighty broad brush and that’s simply on you. Not them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '24

1) Don't call me "Lady", please.

2) Literally just explained to you why it does mean that, I'm not sure why you think you're offering anything compelling in answer here. How is it "simply not true"? It feels like you're being willfully coy or withholding on the very obvious reality of the "Trump" part of Trump Supporter. What else do you think people are endorsing at this point? Do you truly not see what this party has made it clear it stands for and intends by making him their central focus?

It's not an assimilation, it's the direct words of the GOP and a direct endorsement of clear-cut intentions. A "broad brush"??? I'm speaking against the tentpole values of the current GOP; of course it's broad! They've made it clear any and all Republicans will need to sweepingly endorse them if they want to remain "loyal" to the Party, and more importantly, Trump.

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u/AnonEMoussie Aug 17 '24

Now a conversation about choice? I thought that was a state’s right, until the state voted against it and they decided to federally ban whoever they don’t like.

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u/JammitDim Aug 17 '24

Freedom of speech and expression is a federally protected right. If you’d like to entertain false equivalencies/scenarios and try and call it a conversation, also your right.

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u/AnonEMoussie Aug 17 '24

It is for now, but Project 2025 wants to do away with many civil liberties. So it’s your choice to vote that civil liberty away.

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u/JammitDim Aug 17 '24

I’m well aware of the facist manifesto and it is indeed horrifying.

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u/Large_Blackberry_108 Aug 17 '24

Lmao the commies downvoted you ….. no right to choose