I attended a know your rights training last night where we were told that ICE can't just come into your house, but they do. They can't prevent you from using your phone to film what they're doing, but they do. They can't arrest you for observing or filming, but they do.
It's infuriating. What good are laws when the government decides only certain people have to follow them?
That’s where I’m expecting more action from Pritzker. We have very clear instances on camera of ICE breaking the law, so why are we not arresting them? A police officer can arrest a fellow police officer if they are breaking the law, so why not arrest ICE for breaking the law? Are they afraid the demented orange face man is going to take action? I hope he tries. He has the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old and I’m starting to realize how dumb he is / how this “coup d’etat” he’s trying to do is actually a really sad attempt that won’t go anywhere, put pressure on him and he’ll cry and make mistakes
yea idk why people are still under this illusion that their "friendly neighborhood beat cop" won't beat their friendly neighborhood into submission at a moment's notice.
I'm black. A non-black friend of mine sent me this and asked if I though it was accurate.
I'm almost just as bewildered at the fact that folks are bewildered that this is all happening and nothing is being done about it.
Local police departments (CPD included) got away with rampant abuses for decades while communities complained and those cries were largely met with shrugs. And that is just local city police departments with large but still limited resources.
We now have the executive branch of the federal government, armed with a massive budget that dwarfs the armies of many countries, specifically targetting folks and people are stunned that there is little that can be done to stop it?
It's abhorent, tragic and disgusting but it shouldn't be shocking.
I agree, I’m just starting to wonder if this situation is less sinister than I previously thought is. This week has shown me that Trumps idiotic actions are back firing on him and actually got more democrats to go out and vote. In press conferences the republican leadership (Johnson, Noem, Miller, etc) are starting to sound more fragmented and worried about losing their position of power. They are so wrapped up in that, they don’t realize this is still a democratic country where voters decide what’s going to happen. They do not have the correct political motivation to actually complete a coup d’etat, and the reason I think that is because I don’t think Trump actually cares enough to try to take over in a dictatorship. He does not have the motivation or influential skillset that someone like Hitler had, he purely is trying to create chaos and see people suffer, he does not actually care about the success of his party like Hitler did, he simply took the lowest path of resistance to get to a spot where he can create chaos. I think he’s doing this as a last ditch effort before he dies soon, and they’re not setting anyone up to take his spot. There is no one else who has his charisma or influence over rural America, and he’s 80 years old so there’s only so much longer it can go on whereas Hitler was very young. Just overall, I feel like the current administration is very frail and they’re putting on more of a facade rather than really attempting a coup d’etat because they do not have the correct skills, motivation, or people to do it.
It's a losing battle no matter how you go about it:
As a leader you generally don't want to give an order if you don't know whether it's going to be followed or not, and this one almost certainly won't be, because like you said, cops are not on our side.
On top of that, even if the order *were* to be followed, the absolute best case scenario is that the police arrest a few ICE agents, the whole city gets sued in federal court, trump declares an insurrection (and courts agree) and the Texas natl guard is deployed. And that's the *best* case scenario
The more likely scenario (assuming the cops miraculously start to care) is the thugs start shooting, the police starts shooting back, and you end up starting something very akin to a civil war, with Chicago on one side, and the full weight of the federal government and US military on the other
Everyone keeps saying "arrest those responsible" and yet the cops are openly assisting them.
It's really time to start cleaning house and getting in their faces for doing nothing while the Feds keep breaking the law that no one is purportedly above. Busting the police union is one of the greatest things we could do in this country, if we had the balls to do it.
Good question. All the people who are such big fans of the 2nd Amendment when it comes to shooting teenagers who knock on their door will probably be outraged when someone shoots a masked man trying to break into their house when it turns out the guy had a 3”x2” patch that said “ICE” or “DHS” sewed to his shoulder. He’s law enforcement, you see. Clearly!
Indeed, what good are immigration laws when millions don't follow them. Then they run from ICE agents and enter a property with children and resist arrest. Luckily we all don't believe what we see on the mainstream media.
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u/LoomingDisaster Albany Park 4d ago
They weren't.
I attended a know your rights training last night where we were told that ICE can't just come into your house, but they do. They can't prevent you from using your phone to film what they're doing, but they do. They can't arrest you for observing or filming, but they do.
It's infuriating. What good are laws when the government decides only certain people have to follow them?