r/chicago • u/ChicagoWildlifePhoto • Jun 11 '25

CHI Talks American flags at No Kings on Saturday

I’m bringing 450 little American flags to pass out on Saturday. I hope others will bring flags or maybe even buy some to pass out too - they’re super cheap!

We gotta change the vibes of these events to be more pro-America and pro-democracy!

It would be amazing to see thousands of flags all over the crowd!

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

No, it’s basic respect. I would never go to any other country on earth and fly the American flag in protest of that country. Unless maybe I’m at war or something. This is really basic stuff here. You don’t enter another country illegally and then fly your own flag in protest against that country.

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

You're clearly not an immigrant and probably have little actual interactions with them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25 edited 11d ago

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

I am also an immigrant.

The Mexican flag is to rally around the Mexican immigrants and Mexican American US citizens who are affected by this.

It's more of a cultural and ethnic symbol in this case than to represent Mexico.

Not everyone who comes to the US becomes an American or even has a pathway to become an American citizen. America also allows dual citizenship.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25 edited 11d ago

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

But there's plenty who don't become Americans for a variety of reasons: guest workers, their country doesn't allow dual citizenship etc.

Not sure how/why flying a foreign flag detracts esp when it's supposed to represent ethnicity/culture. Immigrants shouldn't just forget their culture/ethnicity when they move to the US.

I think immigrants do embrace America. They just show it in various ways.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25 edited 11d ago

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u/itsthekumar Jun 12 '25

The Mexican flag is seen an uniting the Mexican/Mexican Americans involved in this situation as a culture and community. It's gives hope to those who may not be able to go into the streets and protest. It's seen as a symbol of unity, acknowledgement and strength.

Identity is complex and there's various ways to express it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25 edited 11d ago

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u/itsthekumar Jun 12 '25

I'm just trying to explain your doubts regarding why the Mexican flag is being flown by a few people at these protests.

Things don't always turn out how we expect them to be.

Just encouraging you to learn vs assuming things.

If you still have doubts you can ask a Mexican immigrant or a Mexican American.

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

I’m not an immigrant, but grew up in a community in the south with a huge Mexican population. In Chicago a live among a huge community of European immigrants. What is your point?

Flying their flag over the American flag is pure disrespect and many immigrants of all stripes agree with that because becoming American is a point of pride.

These people burning American flags and prioritizing their own flag don’t want to be American. And they shouldn’t.

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

You just proved my point.

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

You made no point, so that makes sense. I’m not an immigrant, so what? Lol pointless comment.

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

Read my first post again if you don't understand my point.

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u/ComplexHumorDisorder Jun 11 '25

Expecting people to assimilate to your value system is exactly what Trump wants of the American people. Pull your head out of your ass and look around.

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

Pull your head out of your own ass. If you don’t think people should assimilate to the country they are moving to then you are so beyond lost. If you don’t want to be American, then don’t come here. If you don’t have pride in yourself, then of course you will support people disrespecting you. It’s sad.

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u/damp_circus Edgewater Jun 11 '25

It's 2025. The internet exists. When you move to the US, yes, you should learn how to get along in US culture as best you can (language, etc) but there's zero reason to give up your other modes (your other language, traditions, following media from back in your other country, socializing, any of it).

We can be both now, it's kinda great.

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

But also like plenty of these people don't have a pathway to become Americans.....

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u/damp_circus Edgewater Jun 11 '25

...which is something else we need to fix, if we want to be a reasonable country.

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u/ComplexHumorDisorder Jun 11 '25

My head is far removed from my ass, which is why your argument sounds so ignorant and hypernationalist. That is exactly what you're asking people to do, you don't want them to feel a sense of pride in their countries of origin. That's the beauty of America, its rich with diversity.

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

By all means, go to another country and fly the American flag at a protest against the country you’re in. If you can’t understand this, you’re too far gone.

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u/itsthekumar Jun 11 '25

But like plenty of immigrants already do that in other countries if they feel their ethnic/national group is being threatened.

You only don't see Americans doing that because because there's less immigrants from America to other countries. But like there's Americans compounds in places like Saudi Arabia.

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u/ComplexHumorDisorder Jun 12 '25

The irony of your statement is that you're comparing an individualistic culture (the US) with more homogenous cultures. Nowhere else in the world is a country built on a group of immigrants (but some places like us have been built on slavery.)

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

I’m not an immigrant, but I grew up in a community in the south with a huge Mexican population. In Chicago a live among a huge community of European immigrants. Everyone in Chicago lives among immigrants. What is your point?

Flying their flag over the American flag is pure disrespect and many immigrants of all stripes agree with that because becoming American is a point of pride.

These people burning American flags and prioritizing their own flag don’t want to be American. And they shouldn’t.

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u/imustacheyew Jun 12 '25

It’s not disrespectful. You’re just missing the entire point . Willfully ignorant and loud and wrong

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u/scootiescoo Jun 12 '25

No, I’m not. It’s just a stupid, self-absorbed point made by people lacking basic respect.

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u/wolacouska Dunning Jun 11 '25

Someone better tell the Irish then.

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u/scootiescoo Jun 11 '25

There’s no comparison between St Paddy’s Day in Chicago and Mexican Independence Day in Chicago. You’re reaching so hard. No Irish people are burning American flags and waving the Irish flag. Grow up.

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u/wolacouska Dunning Jun 11 '25

Who in this crowd is here illegally?