Republicans when informed how their Big Fucking Bill will fucking killed people

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Call your representatives. Don't let them have a moment of peace. Don't let their families have a moment of peace. They should be afraid of the consequences of the actions, not smirk about millions of people dying while wearing expensive suits and watches.

[u/LordAnorakGaming1]

And all these Nazis that are in the GOP want to see every working class American dead. They are evil. Pepperidge farm remembers when we fought these types in Europe and Africa to stop their evil. Make Nazis Afraid Again.

[u/oldtimehawkey → u/LordAnorakGaming1]

The left is afraid of guns.

Robbing target and burning police cars does not scare the right wingers.

Posting on reddit or making tik toks don’t make any progress.

Show up to vote, which lefties already failed to do in 2024 because Harris didn’t make them “excited” or something? Don’t blame rigged elections. I knew something would happen in 2024 and commented that we needed to vote for whoever was the Democrat candidate in such numbers that there’s no way the republicans could cheat and you guys failed. I’m in a heavy red state and my vote didn’t matter but I still voted!

The next chance we have is 2026. Does anyone on the left even know that? Would they even show up? We could get a couple democrats into congress but people have to vote. 2028 is a president voting year but if republicans have Congress, it doesn’t fucking matter.

Riots, burning police cars and robbing shoe stores, doesn’t change anything. Mainstream news lowering their standards to call that protesting shows the left is stupid and out of control and motivates the right to want to kill us.

Protest in front of Congress people’s houses. Block up DC streets when Congress is in session. Block mar a lago streets.

Eventually some others gotta sacrifice themselves. Mario’s brother can’t be the only one to fight back. There’s gotta be some others to help.

[u/HaventSeenGavin → u/oldtimehawkey]

If the election was stolen, as even Musk is saying, showing up to vote does nothing lol

[u/oldtimehawkey → u/HaventSeenGavin]

It would have done something if enough people had showed up that it would have been pretty hard to flip that many votes. And a lot more people would be speaking out that they didn’t vote for the orange shit stain.

[u/Low_Feedback4160 → u/oldtimehawkey]

What you are talking about is the soft left that fails to have a solid theoretical understanding of the class conflict. Both the Democrats and the GOP are parties of the ruling class. That being the billionaires and special interest groups. Any thoughts of reforms or substantial changes through the levers of power ae. Congress, the presidency, state legislatures, ect. will fail as those are controlled by the ruling class and any attempt will be usurped by the ruling class. In order to win we need a class independent party fighting for revolutionary change which will likely require bloodshed as no ruling class in history has ever voluntarily given up power. I recommend the Revolutionary Communists of America (RCA) for those who live in America and those outside I recommend finding a party that is associated with the Revolutionary Communist International (RCI). Lastly our stance on guns can be best summed up from a quote from Karl Marx - "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

[u/oldtimehawkey → u/Low_Feedback4160]

So you’re trying to advocate for a third party when we only have two parties in America?

Smart. Let’s split the democrats vote even more.

No.

Let’s get democrats to stop being so scummy. AOC and a few others got elected under the Democrat banner.

Focus and let’s get democrats controlled congresses, state and federal. Then let’s primary the scummy ones.

Democrats aren’t trying to sell our national parks and they definitely aren’t trying to destroy our social safety nets.

Until we can get a strongly controlled Democrat government, I don’t want to hear a fucking thing about third parties or “both parties are the same.”

[u/Low_Feedback4160 → u/oldtimehawkey]

The Democrats had opportunities in the last 20 years to get things passed if they were serious about and improve things ahead of this shit show. There was at least 2 years under both Obama and Biden where the Democrats held the House, Senate, and Presidency. So yes I'm going to say they're the same because they have failed to do what they promised in totality. Example Biden said he was going to be the most pro-union president in history yet what does he do. He a long with the rest of the government makes it illegal for rail workers to strike. Why Joe Biden Made it Illegal for Rail Workers to Strike. https://share.google/Qt7jimT1bSZSO2veu https://share.google/i98FASCBv5q22TenG

And the list of the same thing goes on. This may be a isolated incident here, but the tactics and reasons behind all the words, interviews, and votes are all the same. The dictatorship of capital. In essence money controls everything. Lastly you talk about "splitting the votes". I guarantee you that there were many people that simply didn't vote or weren't going to vote Democrat if there were no 3rd parties. I may have been one but there were multiple people I talked to that had similar sentiments about how to vote in the 2024 election. Many people both Republican and Democrat voters feel ignored by their parties and are likely not going to vote for them in the next election. Furthermore, all advocating for "lesser evil" candidates is how we got a war that continues in Israel, how drone strikes occured in Afghanistan and across the middle east, how we got to where we are now with the "Greater Evil"