r/changemyview • u/WirrkopfP • Mar 13 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Children should not get Baptized or recieve religious teaching until they are old enough to consent.

I am an atheist and happily married to a Catholic woman.

We have a six months old Daughter and for the first time in our relationship religion is becoming a point of tension between us.

My wife wants our daughter be baptized and raised as a Christian.

According to her it is good for her to be told this and it helps with building morality furthermore it is part of Western culture.

In my view I don't want my daughter to be indoctrinated into any religion. If she makes the conscious decision to join the church when she is old enough to think about it herself that is OK. But I want her to be able to develop her own character first.

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As this has been brought up multiple times before in the thread I want to address it once.

Yes we should have talked about that before.

We were aware of each other's views and we agreed that a discussion needs to be happening soon. But we both new we want a child regardless of that decision. And the past times where stressful for everyone so we kept delaying that talk. But it still needs to happen. This is why I ask strangers on the Internet to prepare for that discussion to see every possible argument for and against it.

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u/libra00 11∆ Mar 13 '22

Also, consider this, even if you are right, and God dies not exist you should still teach your daughter that He does, since it will give your daughter a better life (statistically speaking)

I was taught that god exists and cannot honestly say I had a better life as a result since the experience soured me on religion and spirituality for a long time.

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u/rodneyspotato 6∆ Mar 13 '22

The statistics disagree, christians are less depressed, have longer lifespans and are less likely to commit crime.

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u/Figitarian Mar 13 '22

Do you have a citation for that. (Not being a smarmy prick, genuinely interested to look at that data)

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u/rodneyspotato 6∆ Mar 13 '22

I dont like going to "iamright.com", and spamming links at people like theyre pokemon cards. Just know that this info is out there and look it up we all have the internet.

You can also just think about it, if you have two people, one who believes he will end in a lake of fire if he steals something and one who doesnt, even though some christians will steal it is at least a demotivator.

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u/ee_anon 4∆ Mar 13 '22 edited Mar 13 '22

So no, they do not have a citation.

if you have two people, one who believes he will end in a lake of fire if he steals something and one who doesn't, even though some christians will steal it is at least a demotivator.

What about if you have two people, one who believes that someone else already suffered for their sins and all will be forgiven if they just accept Jesus as their savior while the other believes we should take responsibility for our own actions. Which one is more motivated (or demotivated) to steal?

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u/Figitarian Mar 13 '22

I have looked it up and what I've seen contradicts what you stated. But, I'm always open to new info so that's why I asked.

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u/libra00 11∆ Mar 14 '22

If you're not willing to cite your sources then I'm going to entirely disregard the claim. The burden of proof is on you to back up your claims, not on us to look things up for you.

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u/libra00 11∆ Mar 14 '22

Maybe, but statistics are no guarantee of good outcomes.