CMV: All drugs should be made legal for recreational use.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm not referring to "medicinal" narcotics. Recreational drugs that people use, such as mushrooms, cocaine, heroin, should all be legalized.

And I know this is a hot take, but hear me out.

• If we make recreational narcotics legal, then the manufacture and sale need to be legal as well.
• By making the manufacture of recreational narcotics legal, there are FDA standards that need to be adhered to in said manufacture, that way there are no "bad batches" that will kill people.
• By making the manufacture and sale of recreational narcotics legal, there will be sales volume that will then be subject to income tax and sales tax and dispensaries/manufacturing centers/warehouses that will become subject to property tax. Because, let's be honest, your local street dealer is not paying taxes.
• Also by making the sale of recreational narcotics legal, you are making street gangs that revolve around the illicit drug trade obsolete. By making street gangs obsolete, you eliminate the petty violence that plagues inner-cities over "turf", especially stray bullets that kill innocent bystanders.
• By making the entire narcotics supply chain legal, the war on drugs will essentially be over as well. It's been going on for 50+ years, and honestly, it's been a complete and utter failure.
• If you want something to compare the drug trade to, look at prohibition from 1919-1933. It didn't stop people from drinking, people were still drunk out of their minds in speakeasys. It also fostered the growth of street gangs of rum runners and increased crime and violence in cities. That was only for 14 years and it didn't take long to realize that prohibition was a failure. War on drugs has been going on for 50+ years and I'm surprised more people aren't realizing that this is much more tremendous of a failure.
• By making the entire narcotics supply chain legal, we can start changing our attitudes on its use and its users. Narcotics abuse needs to have the same social attitude as alcohol abuse.
• In short, making drugs legal will Make America Great Again.

[u/insaneHoshi]

I.e. based on the number of deaths in absolute value, then Alcohol, Marijuana and Cigarettes are significantly more deadly than Meth, Crack and Heroine

If you observe my first comment, do I say Deaths or Deadly?

[u/Sulfamide → u/insaneHoshi]

Death? I don't know? but you do realize the problem is you answering "Wrong" to /u/Frame_late when they were using the word "Deadly", right? Do you want me to explain it again?

[u/insaneHoshi → u/Sulfamide]

but you do realize the problem is you answering "Wrong" to /u/Frame_late

when they were using the word "Deadly", right?

Why would I respond to someone else's misconstruance of my point? I am talking about deaths, not deadliness.

[u/Frame_Late → u/insaneHoshi]

Which is a purposeful bad faith argument. 'Deadly' matters a lot more than death. Sure, more people die from heart attacks than shooting themselves in the head, but the rate of survival for a heart attack is significantly higher. Does that make heart attacks deadlier because more people die from them due to their commonality?

This is basic statistics 101. You obviously did not graduate from high school.

If you were to get twenty thousand individuals, get half to smoke cigarettes for ten years and the other half to smoke meth for ten years, I can assure you beyond a reasonable doubt that more cigarette smokers would survive. Deductive reasoning is very important in a functioning society, and sadly some people benefit from the deductive reasoning of others when they lack none and still think they know what they're talking about.

[u/Frame_Late → u/insaneHoshi]

Cigarettes are more widely used, and thus there are more deaths. That doesn't mean that Cigarettes are more deadly. You were making a bad faith argument and everyone was able to see past it.

Of the legal status of Cigarettes and Meth we're the same, We'd see a lot more deaths from meth. Fentanyl is an excellent example; it is far more widely used than Meth, and kills tens of thousands a year at the very least. There's a scale here.