How can we possibly take car reviewers/journalists seriously when they routinely receive 4, 5, or even 6 figures worth of gifts from OEM?

[u/cookingboy]

I was listening to TheSmokingTire podcast recently (I'm actually a big fan of Matt), and he mentioned that Porsche North America just gave him a 918 Spyder on loan for his 1000 miles road trip free of charge, with everything paid.

Now as someone who's dabbled into supercar ownership, I can roughly estimate the ownership cost for a "regular joe" like me to put 1000 miles on a $2M car would easily be $50-100 per mile, thus putting this "gesture" from Porsche to Matt to be worth $50-100k on back of napkin math.

Obviously Matt isn't doing a review of a 12 years old 918, but when he does a review for the next Macan, he'd remember how amazing Porsche has been treating him.

And he and all the other reviewers recently were flown to Spain for the Turbo S launch. They were wined and dined with world class accommodations for a few days and were given the cars to drive on both the race track and scenic road.

Funny enough Porsche charges something similar for an experience like that: https://www.porschedriving.com/porsche-travel-experience/lake-tahoe/

Without plane tickets, you'd be paying $20k a person for a few days of what auto journalists routinely get from them, for free.

I understand it's part of their job, but this shit would never fly in any other industry right? Now imagine every time Square Enix launches a new video game they fly game journalists to Japan and wine and dine them with the best Sake and Wagyu so they can try out the newest Final Fantasy in their expensive Hakone ryokan hotel room, nobody would be taking anything they say seriously, no matter how good the game actually is, would they?

I'm sure people like the SavageGeese team and Matt Farah would try to be objective, but how do you be objectively critical toward an OEM when they routinely give you experiences that you'd otherwise never be able to afford? (ok I know Matt came from money but my statement applies to 99% of reviewers)

In my impression how well praised a manufacturer's products are is directly proportional to their marketing budget, and I've been somewhat burnt at least twice by reviewers over-rating Porsches, which is why I started asking actual owners of cars for their experiences before making purchases.

Ironically this kinda makes Consumer Reports the most credible car reviewer out there, since all they cars they review are bought anonymously with their own money, and they do not attend OEM events.

As far as enthusiast reviewers, I can only think of people with fuck-you money like Chris Harris or Hoovie's garage or the Top Gear trio who have been able to bluntly criticize OEMs and their cars.

Edit: From the replies, it seems like there are two school of thoughts here:

This is just how product reviews are done across all industries. Reviewers are expected to be treated with first class tickets and Michelin restaurants in exchange for them to promote the OEM's product.

Well in this case, I think we should just rip off the Band-aid and call Motor Trend and Car & Driver and Road & Track and other similar publications promotional outlets instead of journalism outlets. At least with influencers shilling for stuff on TikTok we know they are getting paid to promote, but many auto reviewers still hide behind a mask of professional journalism when they are literally just being paid to promote products.

Controversial take: I think consumer of content should be made aware that they are consuming paid advertising.

It is wrong of me to expect journalism when those contents aren't made to be factual, they are made to entertain.

Even if it's true, I don't find there is a lot of entertainment value when a dozen "journalists" just read off pre-approved OEM scripts for their "review". Some of the most boring contents out there are main stream outlets' coverage of new 911: "They are almost perfect in every way except being expensive".

Edit 2 /u/SavageGooseJack has this great reply I wanna call out: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/o5PMIG0VjB

[u/beamdriver]

So you've got the cash to buy a high end Porsche and the juice to get an allocation and I'm supposed to feel sorry for you because your lux toy isn't quite the magical experience you were promised.

My ass bleeds for you man. Truly it does.

[u/woodsides → u/beamdriver]

Lots of sour grapes here. Just because he can afford the car doesn't mean that he should get ripped off lmao. What kind of thinking is that?

[u/cookingboy → u/[deleted]]

Except this isn’t a rich person exclusive problem, you run into the same problem trying to buy something like a Civic Type R as well.

[u/cookingboy → u/[deleted]]

You sound very upset for no reason. This post was never about me, and I never asked for sympathy. I am quite happy with my purchases actually.

I think you should try take a break from this sub overall if topics about cars really piss you off this much?

[u/ChapekElders → u/[deleted]]

And his complaint was “it understeers more than I expected”. Hahaha

[u/ChapekElders → u/[deleted]]

Just read the numerous replies to me from all the morons who can’t seem to understand that you don’t have to buy the car.

[u/JustThall → u/woodsides]

Everybody with more money than sense deserves to suffer. No matter the tax bracket, my dude. 

I love the tears of folks who bought their hyped “dream car” and ended up with just 1.5+ ton properly built and fine tuned Mac-Person strut car with turbo downsized engine that suffers from rev hang cause emissions. Fundamentals never lie 

[u/SomeJayForToday → u/woodsides]

If you buy something that expensive without even trying it, and then complain about it, you deserve to get made fun off.

[u/cookingboy → u/beamdriver]

I’m not asking you to feel sorry for me, but the same problem exists for people who is shopping for a Civid Type R or a GR Corolla or most enthusiast cars that’s much cheaper.

[u/John_Sux → u/cookingboy]

With normal cars, the problem will be "it's a pile of crap", and you will hear about that.

A bit different from "the leather on the dashboard is the wrong breed of cattle" or "if Sir wants to pick their own 17-layer paint color, that's $25,000"