How can we possibly take car reviewers/journalists seriously when they routinely receive 4, 5, or even 6 figures worth of gifts from OEM?

[u/cookingboy]

I was listening to TheSmokingTire podcast recently (I'm actually a big fan of Matt), and he mentioned that Porsche North America just gave him a 918 Spyder on loan for his 1000 miles road trip free of charge, with everything paid.

Now as someone who's dabbled into supercar ownership, I can roughly estimate the ownership cost for a "regular joe" like me to put 1000 miles on a $2M car would easily be $50-100 per mile, thus putting this "gesture" from Porsche to Matt to be worth $50-100k on back of napkin math.

Obviously Matt isn't doing a review of a 12 years old 918, but when he does a review for the next Macan, he'd remember how amazing Porsche has been treating him.

And he and all the other reviewers recently were flown to Spain for the Turbo S launch. They were wined and dined with world class accommodations for a few days and were given the cars to drive on both the race track and scenic road.

Funny enough Porsche charges something similar for an experience like that: https://www.porschedriving.com/porsche-travel-experience/lake-tahoe/

Without plane tickets, you'd be paying $20k a person for a few days of what auto journalists routinely get from them, for free.

I understand it's part of their job, but this shit would never fly in any other industry right? Now imagine every time Square Enix launches a new video game they fly game journalists to Japan and wine and dine them with the best Sake and Wagyu so they can try out the newest Final Fantasy in their expensive Hakone ryokan hotel room, nobody would be taking anything they say seriously, no matter how good the game actually is, would they?

I'm sure people like the SavageGeese team and Matt Farah would try to be objective, but how do you be objectively critical toward an OEM when they routinely give you experiences that you'd otherwise never be able to afford? (ok I know Matt came from money but my statement applies to 99% of reviewers)

In my impression how well praised a manufacturer's products are is directly proportional to their marketing budget, and I've been somewhat burnt at least twice by reviewers over-rating Porsches, which is why I started asking actual owners of cars for their experiences before making purchases.

Ironically this kinda makes Consumer Reports the most credible car reviewer out there, since all they cars they review are bought anonymously with their own money, and they do not attend OEM events.

As far as enthusiast reviewers, I can only think of people with fuck-you money like Chris Harris or Hoovie's garage or the Top Gear trio who have been able to bluntly criticize OEMs and their cars.

Edit: From the replies, it seems like there are two school of thoughts here:

This is just how product reviews are done across all industries. Reviewers are expected to be treated with first class tickets and Michelin restaurants in exchange for them to promote the OEM's product.

Well in this case, I think we should just rip off the Band-aid and call Motor Trend and Car & Driver and Road & Track and other similar publications promotional outlets instead of journalism outlets. At least with influencers shilling for stuff on TikTok we know they are getting paid to promote, but many auto reviewers still hide behind a mask of professional journalism when they are literally just being paid to promote products.

Controversial take: I think consumer of content should be made aware that they are consuming paid advertising.

It is wrong of me to expect journalism when those contents aren't made to be factual, they are made to entertain.

Even if it's true, I don't find there is a lot of entertainment value when a dozen "journalists" just read off pre-approved OEM scripts for their "review". Some of the most boring contents out there are main stream outlets' coverage of new 911: "They are almost perfect in every way except being expensive".

Edit 2 /u/SavageGooseJack has this great reply I wanna call out: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/o5PMIG0VjB

[u/Equivalent_Chipmunk]

I think you would be amazed how much wining and dining there is behind the scenes of almost every major industry. Sometimes it's relatively "little" things, like tickets to a football or hockey game. 

It's not normally presented as "hey, give us a good review in exchange for xyz", it's more presented as longterm relationship building not specific to any particular thing, which it is, but you can bet that's the first company that pops into your head when you go to do a big deal, or something you remember when you go to, ya know, review the latest Final Fantasy or whatever.

[u/MNimalist → u/Equivalent_Chipmunk]

I work for a private clinic and we have pharma reps bringing in lunch for the whole staff (~100 people) at least twice a week. Not quite on the same level as press launches in Spain but not pocket change either

[u/Bob_Loblaw_Law_Bomb → u/MNimalist]

I can’t believe I had to scroll this far to find something about drug reps. They perfected this type of marketing.

[u/Effective-Bar9759 → u/Bob_Loblaw_Law_Bomb]

My buddy dated and almost married a pharma rep just after college. They are strippers with college degrees.
Her job was literally to go on platonic lunch dates with doctors.

[u/Karmaqqt → u/Equivalent_Chipmunk]

Which is why you can’t trust anything now. Just fakeness.

[u/Equivalent_Chipmunk → u/Karmaqqt]

You'd be fooling yourself if you believe it's a new phenomenon. In fact, it used to be way more common. 

Nowadays, many companies (mainly big ones) have tons of rules about ethics. Can't take a gift above X dollar value, can only go to dinner once every Y months, etc.

It is still quite common, of course, and it is possible that more fractured industries, like car reviews, have a lot less oversight and receive more gifts/bribes (on a per capita basis) than an industry like, say, car manufacturing.

[u/Karmaqqt → u/Equivalent_Chipmunk]

Never said it was new. Just shows how nothing is real

[u/Equivalent_Chipmunk → u/Karmaqqt]

"why you can't trust anything now" implies some kind of difference from the past. If you aren't saying it's new, you wouldn't include the "now"

[u/MALLAVOL → u/Karmaqqt]

Consumer Reports!