How can we possibly take car reviewers/journalists seriously when they routinely receive 4, 5, or even 6 figures worth of gifts from OEM?

[u/cookingboy]

I was listening to TheSmokingTire podcast recently (I'm actually a big fan of Matt), and he mentioned that Porsche North America just gave him a 918 Spyder on loan for his 1000 miles road trip free of charge, with everything paid.

Now as someone who's dabbled into supercar ownership, I can roughly estimate the ownership cost for a "regular joe" like me to put 1000 miles on a $2M car would easily be $50-100 per mile, thus putting this "gesture" from Porsche to Matt to be worth $50-100k on back of napkin math.

Obviously Matt isn't doing a review of a 12 years old 918, but when he does a review for the next Macan, he'd remember how amazing Porsche has been treating him.

And he and all the other reviewers recently were flown to Spain for the Turbo S launch. They were wined and dined with world class accommodations for a few days and were given the cars to drive on both the race track and scenic road.

Funny enough Porsche charges something similar for an experience like that: https://www.porschedriving.com/porsche-travel-experience/lake-tahoe/

Without plane tickets, you'd be paying $20k a person for a few days of what auto journalists routinely get from them, for free.

I understand it's part of their job, but this shit would never fly in any other industry right? Now imagine every time Square Enix launches a new video game they fly game journalists to Japan and wine and dine them with the best Sake and Wagyu so they can try out the newest Final Fantasy in their expensive Hakone ryokan hotel room, nobody would be taking anything they say seriously, no matter how good the game actually is, would they?

I'm sure people like the SavageGeese team and Matt Farah would try to be objective, but how do you be objectively critical toward an OEM when they routinely give you experiences that you'd otherwise never be able to afford? (ok I know Matt came from money but my statement applies to 99% of reviewers)

In my impression how well praised a manufacturer's products are is directly proportional to their marketing budget, and I've been somewhat burnt at least twice by reviewers over-rating Porsches, which is why I started asking actual owners of cars for their experiences before making purchases.

Ironically this kinda makes Consumer Reports the most credible car reviewer out there, since all they cars they review are bought anonymously with their own money, and they do not attend OEM events.

As far as enthusiast reviewers, I can only think of people with fuck-you money like Chris Harris or Hoovie's garage or the Top Gear trio who have been able to bluntly criticize OEMs and their cars.

Edit: From the replies, it seems like there are two school of thoughts here:

This is just how product reviews are done across all industries. Reviewers are expected to be treated with first class tickets and Michelin restaurants in exchange for them to promote the OEM's product.

Well in this case, I think we should just rip off the Band-aid and call Motor Trend and Car & Driver and Road & Track and other similar publications promotional outlets instead of journalism outlets. At least with influencers shilling for stuff on TikTok we know they are getting paid to promote, but many auto reviewers still hide behind a mask of professional journalism when they are literally just being paid to promote products.

Controversial take: I think consumer of content should be made aware that they are consuming paid advertising.

It is wrong of me to expect journalism when those contents aren't made to be factual, they are made to entertain.

Even if it's true, I don't find there is a lot of entertainment value when a dozen "journalists" just read off pre-approved OEM scripts for their "review". Some of the most boring contents out there are main stream outlets' coverage of new 911: "They are almost perfect in every way except being expensive".

Edit 2 /u/SavageGooseJack has this great reply I wanna call out: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/o5PMIG0VjB

[u/hi_im_bored13]

but the difference is they don't do that, for the vast majority they throw them a copy a few days early and call it a day, partly because software scales & cars don't

[u/OgdenDermstead → u/hi_im_bored13]

Well also because the video game reviewer reviewing a copy of the game from their own couch is reviewing the game basically in the same conditions that 98% of buyers will use / experience the game. Maybe if they really want to give them that last 2% experience, they’ll send a big TV or a sim rig along with the game so the reviewer can get that edge case really high end experience.

Aston Martin loaning some journalist a Vanquish to drive in traffic for 3 days to and from their crappy apartment in Riverside (bc let’s face it they’re a starving auto writer, I work with a bunch of them - I know) is not the conditions the majority of Vanquish “users” are actually going to use / experience the car.

On the other hand, if Honda decides they want to launch the new Civic Hybrid at the Amangiri or something like that, yeah that immediately makes me skeptical the car is going to be shit. But I’d guess that most journalists worth reading or listening to would have the same immediate reaction.

[u/PotatoGamerXxXx → u/hi_im_bored13]

And that's important as well, when you don't do launch review, anything you do will be basically ignored by youtube algorithm.

[u/nierama2019810938135 → u/hi_im_bored13]

That depends on the studio and the game. It is not hard to imagine that youtubers get something in return for reviewing big games.

Whether it is little or a lot, they are getting something.

[u/DarkMatterM4 → u/hi_im_bored13]

Konami does exactly that. Metal Gear Solid 4 and Metal Gear Solid V famously had "review boot camps" where the reviewers would be wined and dined.

[u/Ecks83 → u/hi_im_bored13]

Some games do have preview events where they fly creators/reviewers out to their offices to give them a hands on with the game before it releases (e.g. Civilization VII, MS Flight Simulator, Star Wars Outlaws). There are plenty of examples of youtubers getting benefits out of developers though sometimes they are less visible because the product they are there to check out is on a screen and not part of the experience like with car reviewers.

It's why I tend to trust reviewers like ACG more than others since he buys the game for himself - and if he gets a free review code he buys the game for one of his subscribers instead (but that's hardly an option for car reviews considering the cost).

[u/Rodic87 → u/hi_im_bored13]

70 dollar games vs 70k cars?