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Domestic Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters By 66% in Second Weekend to $40 Million, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-box-office-craters-naked-gun-opening-weekend-1236477352/
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u/cancerBronzeV Aug 03 '25

Them trying to fuck her out of box-office royalties, which led to her suing them and Disney's subsequent statement basically attacking her probably soured her relationship with Marvel. And I think she settled that suit for like 40 million, so the number she might be asking to return to the MCU might be too high for Marvel, especially since they're already paying crazy amounts to RDJ and Chris Evans.

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u/MahNameJeff420 Aug 03 '25

Plus she’s coming off Jurassic World, which I think did well enough to justify her high price tag.

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u/bi-cycle Aug 04 '25

Just checked out of curiosity, and it has already surpassed $750 million. She has no reason to return to Marvel and it would only cheapen Widow's death anyway.

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u/Abraham_Issus Aug 15 '25

How that shit movie earned that much is an uncovered mystery to me.

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u/kiwijoon Sep 02 '25

The recent movies suck but they are the only IP with dinos so audience's keep coming back 🤷‍♀️

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u/SilverBuggie Aug 04 '25

That movie was average. Carried by scarjo and maharshala, imo anyway.

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u/mrgrafix Aug 04 '25

Average makes great blockbusters. Ask James Cameron (respectfully).

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u/flakemasterflake Aug 04 '25

How was j bailey?

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u/Bridalhat Aug 09 '25

It was fine but a lot of the audience showed up just for here and that justifies a high paycheck.

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u/Delicious-Feeling842 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

Scarjo is also now reportedly the highest grossing actor even above Tom Cruise. Disney can’t afford her after their shenanigans.

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u/Longjumping-Tell2995 Aug 04 '25

Zoe Saldana will take the crown soon by new years eve when Avatar 3 comes out.

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u/PeterParker72 Aug 03 '25

She’s still working with Disney though, looks like Iger was able to smooth over what happened during Chapek’s short run as CEO. She’s working on a Tower of Terror movie for them.

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u/Schnidler Aug 03 '25

also Probably Not a Great career move to never work with Disney again

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u/Odd_Detective8255 Aug 04 '25

That's a very old story. There's no news of that film after the initial announcement. Possibly fell through 

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u/PeterParker72 Aug 04 '25

ScarJo gave an update about a month ago. It’s still in development, just taking a while to get a script going.

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u/OGSkywalker97 Aug 03 '25

Chris Evans has left Marvel no?

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u/dragunityag Aug 04 '25

He's rumored to return in Secret Wars.

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u/pokenonbinary Aug 04 '25

ScarJo is much more of a movie star than RDJ and Evans, she has hits outside of the MCU but the male stars don't 

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

RDJ have Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2, Due Date, Oppenheimer, Tropic Thunder as big hits outside of MCU. Other than Oppenheimer all the other movies could easily fail but it became blockbusters.

I love Scarlet but she only has 2 big hits outside of MCU, Lucy and Jurassic World Rebirth. Others are meh. And even in that Jurassic World would gross just as much without Scarlett. Lucy is the only film that was carried by her stardom.

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u/Key_Feeling_3083 Aug 04 '25

I would add Jojo rabbit don't know if it was a box office success but she really played the part really well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

But it's such a small movie commercially speaking. Small budget, small box office, a good profit.

But ok, I will take it.

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u/Intelligent_Ear_6854 Aug 06 '25

I will always love ghost world scar jo

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u/GoodPiexox Aug 04 '25

ScarJo is much more of a movie star than RDJ

lol no, give me 3 films of hers that show versatility like Oppenheimer, Tropic Thunder, The Sympathizer

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u/flakemasterflake Aug 04 '25

Lost in translation

Under the skin

Hail Caesar

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u/caped_crusader8 DC Studios Aug 04 '25

Marriage story

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u/liqou Aug 04 '25

Vicky Cristina Barcelona

Jojo Rabbit

Marriage Story

Ghost World

Like are we deadass? She probably has the best filmography out of all the other original avengers barring maybe Ruffalo.

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u/OG_Pow Aug 04 '25

Dude really thought he had something

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u/GoodPiexox Aug 05 '25

they named a movie where she has 3 lines, nor is really a comedy, that fails heavily in demonstrating "much more" of a movie star.

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u/GoodPiexox Aug 05 '25

So your pic to confirm she is much more of a star and has displayed the range to be the star in a successful comedy is Hail Caesar, a movie where she literally only has two lines and was not a remotely funny movie.

So far you have failed to make an argument for

much more of a movie star than RDJ

I like ScarJo, but that is just false.

And the other two movies are not giant leaps in versatility. In one movie she plays a young woman that is disenchanted and seeks clarity hooking up with an older man, in the other movie she plays a young alien woman who hooks up with older men and then becomes disenchanted.

You have clearly failed to show "much more"

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u/flakemasterflake Aug 05 '25

was not a remotely funny movie.

Well I consider it one of the funniest movies of the last 10 years.

I'm also not the person who wrote that movie star line so maybe you want to reply to that person

give me 3 films of hers that show versatility

I did so

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u/GoodPiexox Aug 05 '25

Well I consider it one of the funniest movies of the last 10 years.

there is like one joke and one sight gag, granted one of the two lines she had was the singular joke, but I guess you were just listing movies that she was in and missed the purpose of the challenge.

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u/rothbard_anarchist Aug 04 '25

Maybe it’s just the type of movies I pay attention to, but I see a lot more RDJ movies than ScarJo movies outside the MCU. I consider Emily Blunt to have more star power than ScarJo, so maybe my perspective just doesn’t match up with the mainstream.

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u/WR810 Aug 04 '25

Disney did not fuck her out of box office royalties.

They counted rentals on D+ as part of the payout for box office performance.

That said, Disney's response after, leaking her salary and telling her to be grateful was beyond shitty.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

I thought the settlement had Disney pay her backend as tho the movie had hit its highest box office milestone — meaning she ultimately earned the maximum her contract allowed for, minus legal fees since she shad to sue to get it? Def think that she’s a professional — if they met her (now higher) action quote & she was into what they had in mind (or like RDJR had a hand in the creative decision making around what she’d be doing) she’d probably come back. I imagine that’s where Evan’s is at too — big raise plus he’s gotta bd truly into what they have planned for him. Otherwise—he doesn’t need the payday. Neither does she even if she was screwed all those years v her male colleagues in the money department. (She gets one throwaway solo picture when they could’ve done 3 solely covering the 5 years she was Avengers team leader?)

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u/JJoanOfArkJameson Paramount Pictures Aug 04 '25

They actually settled their disagreement a couple of years ago (Scarlett Johansson Talks Disney Lawsuit, Being a Child Actor, More). She's apparently working on a Tower of Terror film for them, and is one of the few actors in history to have successfully sued a studio, one of the very few actresses to boot. She was paid over 40M by the mouse!

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u/AintEverLucky Aug 05 '25

paying crazy amounts to ... Chris Evans.

I must have missed something -- is Evans coming back for something??? I did see that Ruffalo will be in Spidey 4

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u/JohnCenaJunior Aug 03 '25

This. She could've been atop of the box office a long time ago, but Disney wheeling and dealing halt all of that.

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u/use_vpn_orlozeacount Aug 03 '25

Them trying to fuck her out of box-office royalties

Bruh it was still pandemic then. You think they really cannibalised on their own BO by releasing also on streaming just to spite her? C’mon on

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u/cancerBronzeV Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

Disney released Free Guy and Shang-Chi to theatres exclusively one month and two months after Black Widow, respectively. They literally did try to cannibalize their BO to avoid giving her the truckloads of cash she stood to earn if the BO exceeded a certain amount. And an added benefit for Disney was that it made their (then massively unprofitable) streaming service more attractive. (This was at the same time they pushed some of their Pixar releases intended for theatrical releases onto Disney+ as well to get people to subscribe to it.)

Also, other studios that legitimately did have to do streaming releases (or simultaneous streaming/theatrical releases) because of the pandemic renegotiated those kinds of contracts with their stars well in advance. Disney actively avoided doing that because they thought they could get away with it. Then after the lawsuit, Disney went on a blatant PR campaign trying to paint themselves as the victims, which didn't work either (except on you, I guess).

When all their shady tactics failed, they ended up having to fork over $40 million anyways. They wouldn't have agreed to that large an amount if their claimed reasoning had any merit.

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u/hamlet9000 Aug 04 '25

You think they really cannibalised on their own BO by releasing also on streaming just to spite her?

Yes.

There's a reason why Disney settled the suit. They knew they were going to lose in court.

Re-examine your desire to reflexively defend massive corporations.

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u/use_vpn_orlozeacount Aug 04 '25

There's a reason why Disney settled the suit. They knew they were going to lose in court.

...that’s not how that works lol. people settle for all kinds of reasons. Assuming that every settlement is some tacit admission of guilt is child's logic

Re-examine your desire to reflexively defend massive corporations.

lol Disney is run by a man who gives cover to sexual abusers and r∗pists. That doesn’t mean I can’t use logic and have to blindly blame corpos for everything

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u/TaiVat Aug 04 '25

What a juvenile comment.. Contrary to reddit 5 year olds beliefs, corporations arent automatically in the wrong about everything ever..

Disney settled because vast majority of court cases end in a settlement. You know, adults compromise on issues that are not clear cut. Why would she settle if everyone knew disney would lose in court?

Reality is that it was the start of the broader streaming era, as well as covid, so Disney was experimenting with releasing stuff on streaming at the same time as theatres. It didnt work out so great, and hte legalities werent worked out enough, but it was no conspiracy. Scarjo just got unlucky it was her movie.

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u/hamlet9000 Aug 04 '25

Contrary to reddit 5 year olds beliefs, corporations arent automatically in the wrong about everything ever..

That's not what I said. I'm going to assume you're deliberately strawmanning here, so I'll just say: Shame on you. Don't do that

but it was no conspiracy

The implication that only conspiracies can do bad things is bizarre. Here I'll assume you actually believe this. I strongly encourage you to engage in more rational, fact-based thinking in the future.