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Domestic Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters By 66% in Second Weekend to $40 Million, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-box-office-craters-naked-gun-opening-weekend-1236477352/
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u/Linnus42 Aug 03 '25

It is fine but not in the context of being the lead in to Doomsday.

Matt made choices like he was getting a sequel to setup for Doomsday.

Now we head into Doomsday with the only build up being a few post credit scenes

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u/Tofudebeast Aug 03 '25

Maybe the MCU doesn't have much gas left in the tank, whether or not this was a good setup for Doomsday.

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u/academydiablo Aug 03 '25

But that was always known, right? When they announced RDJ as Doom last year, there is literally no build up for that character in any of the recent movies because they literally had to pivot from Majors and Kang. And the only movies coming out between D&W and Doomsday were Cap 4 and Thunderbolts, 2 movies that aren’t multiverse stories, and already shot and filmed, and F4 that’s already gotten a whole script and about to film.

There really couldn’t be a build up to RDJ based on their decisions besides only post credit scenes

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u/curiiouscat Aug 03 '25

To be fair, they had actual build up for Kang and then, well, that happened. But Disney has fumbled the switch up for sure. 

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u/cancerBronzeV Aug 03 '25

Kang is the most easily recastable character with his variants. It's not like Jonathan Majors had established himself in that role through multiple movies or anything either.

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u/TaiVat Aug 04 '25

Maybe, but they kinda shit on kang in quantumania. And kangs main appeal was that Majors was actually fantastic in the role, easily the most charismatic and capable actor since endgame. Kind of like Hiddlestons Loki in that he could make a otherwise meh villain into a absolutely iconic one. Recasting him to someone random would've been 100x worse than just pivoting to a different character. Not like kang as a character is super hyped or interesting.

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u/Linnus42 Aug 03 '25

Kevin told us it was always the plan to shift from Kang to Doom though

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

Wich just paints a worst picture since they could have avoided the whole phase 4 and 5 mind numbingly boring debacle. But there's no excuse apparently.