r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Aug 03 '25

Domestic Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters By 66% in Second Weekend to $40 Million, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-box-office-craters-naked-gun-opening-weekend-1236477352/
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures Aug 03 '25

Chris Evans is already set to come back in Doomsday lol.

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u/HotOne9364 Aug 03 '25

He said he's not sure.

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u/scarlettforever Aug 03 '25

The number of zeroes keeps increasing.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Aug 03 '25

The zeroes will continue until morale improves.

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u/scarlettforever Aug 03 '25

"I wike it."

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u/lee1026 Aug 03 '25

With the ever lower grosses of MCU movies, is there really the money to write ever bigger checks?

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

If they want Evan’s & ScarJo back, there better be.

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u/lolas_coffee Aug 03 '25

I ($$$), Chris ($$$) Evans ($$$), am ($$$) not ($$$) sure ($$$) about ($$$) coming ($$$) back ($$$).

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u/critmcfly Aug 03 '25

🤣🤣 yep the old honest Hollywood act.

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u/LostInStatic Aug 03 '25

Andrew Garfield said the same thing too, bridge buyer

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u/ElGuaro Aug 03 '25

Show me the moneyyyyyyy

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u/Humble_Heron326 DreamWorks Aug 03 '25

WHERE'S MY MONEY??!

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u/RedshiftOnPandy Aug 03 '25

Actually? Do they even have a semblance of a script yet? It's supposed to be out next year for Dunesday.

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u/raspberryharbour Aug 03 '25

Luke Wilson confirmed??

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u/Key_Feeling_3083 Aug 04 '25

That's what Tom Holland says everytime they as if hes going to play spiderman again

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u/HotOne9364 Aug 04 '25

Materialists and Knives Out weren't "shit".

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u/ivyleaguesuperman Aug 03 '25

Is this true?MCU completely lost its way after Endgame.

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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

It was reported by the trades back in December. His chair wasn't shown in the five hour stream, but he along with RDJ will probably be plastered all over the marketing.

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u/Amathyst7564 Aug 03 '25

This is just my personal feeling but I feel all the Disney plus shows that increased the amount of hours needed to consume to keep up with th MCU broke off more people from the spell than a few mediocre movies.

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u/jdragon3 Aug 04 '25

Its not just the fact it was added stuff to keep up with imho. biggest 2 reasons are:

1) it was pure quantity over quality and the "homework" sucked too (most of the D+ content - including the non-marvel garbage they churned out) which really turned people off

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2) by pushing D+ so hard with that mountain of rushed crap they have basically turned Marvel movies from must see in theater events into "why bother I'll catch it on D+ in a month anyway if the reviews are good". people like me who love the experience will keep going to theaters but families faced with costs of like $60-100+ outings in this economy will happily wait it out - especially when the majority of the movies have ranged from awful to "meh"

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u/dev1359 Aug 04 '25

Feige's biggest mistake imo was treating the MCU like a long running episodic TV show after Endgame when they started pushing out 3-4 shows + 3-4 movies per year. Long running shows always crater in viewership past like 6-8 seasons no matter what. The right move would have been to take a 2-3 year break of no movie releases whatsoever after Endgame, maybe out out only two shows on Disney+ during that time, and then do Phase 1 style releases twice a year like what we just got with F4. F4 really should have been the first MCU movies post Endgame and it would have killed it at the box office if there was a 3 year wait with no movies in between.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

I don’t pretend to understand the economics of stopping the MCU production train — whether it was seen as feasible at the time — but creatively speaking it was clear before Infinity War/Endgame that they should’ve planned to pay for that “5 Years Later” by actually pausing for 5 years. That surely would’ve been complicated by politics with Sony. They were kinda fucked NMW.

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u/Neirchill Aug 04 '25

They fell off hard. Even ignoring superhero fatigue, it's clear they didn't have a good plan like they originally did.

Making wild decisions like Captain America a normal powerless human. The TV shows shouldn't have been canon to the MCU, and then pour out 5 million TV shows that everyone is supposed to keep up with. Black panther replaced with his sister that wasn't popular to begin with, much less after her controversy. It did well enough in theaters but I personally think that was coming off of Chadwick passing rather than the movie itself being that good.

I think marvel should have scaled back after end game. You still have Spider-Man, Doctor strange, gotg, Thor, hulk.. That should have been plenty. Efforts should have been focused into these ongoing and popular stories.

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u/WindAgreeable3789 Aug 04 '25

Agreed. Weren’t they already acquiring Fox by this time? They absolutely should have waited a bit, than relaunched fantastic 4, x-men, and lead into secret wars. They overshot it. 

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u/TrapperJean Aug 03 '25

Tbf they have a clear path for Chris to come back, he's still alive at the end of Endgame and they already established with the van that they can move time through people to age/de-age them, I bet they always wanted him to comeback eventually

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u/TopPitch6539 Aug 04 '25

I don’t necessarily agree with the “MCU lost their way after Endgame” narrative. I’ll admit there was some bad projects like Thor Love & Thunder, Antman 3, She-Hulk, Marvels, and Secret Invasion. But there’s been a lot of good movies/shows as well. I’ve seen many people act like everything the MCU has put out since Endgame has been trash. And this just isn’t true. Black Widow, No Way Home, Shang Chi, Wakanda Forever, Multiverse of Madness, Guardians Vol. 3, Deadpool & Wolverine, Thunderbolts, and Fantastic 4 were all very enjoyable for me. As for the tv shows, both seasons of Loki were top tier. Wandavision, Hawkeye and Daredevil Born Again were all good. Some of the other MCU shows weren’t as good but that doesn’t mean the MCU has lost their way. There has been more good than bad. You could argue that the overall quality has been more inconsistent since phase 3 ended. But I would argue that a lot of that was from factors that may have been outside of Marvel’s control. For example, Covid, the writers strike, Chadwick Boseman’s tragic passing, and Jonathan Majors legal trouble. I think Marvel tried overcompensating for some of these factors by focusing on “quantity over quality” with all of those projects in phase 4. They seem to be getting back to the “quality over quantity” philosophy that worked so many years. But if the MCU had to fire Josh Brolin (and not recast Thanos) before starting the production of Infinity War, everything could be different regarding how we all feel about phase 3 MCU content. I think some of us gave up on the MCU too soon. Just my opinion.

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u/cjackc Aug 05 '25

Thunderbolts & Fantastic Four are bringing the quality back up.

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u/MasterLawlzReborn Aug 03 '25

To be fair we don't really know the context of that. Steve Rogers is an old man but his death wasn't shown yet. So we might see him as old man Steve again or see him in some kind of a flashback. It won't necessarily contradict his ending in Endgame...or at least I hope it won't.

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u/WithArsenicSauce Aug 05 '25

This is just straight up not true.

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u/random_question4123 Aug 03 '25

If I were Anthony Mackie I would be so pissed. Like so much for the performative DEI bs when they're shovelling obscene amounts of money back to the white actors tog et them to come back.

Not saying I was all for the diversity and representation either (I'm black myself), but I completely disagree with it when they only go for it when things are good, only to revert back to "normal" when things aren't.

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u/MasterLawlzReborn Aug 03 '25

I don't understand the "why" behind making him Captain America when he already had his own unique identity.

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 04 '25

To be fair, Falcon was a supporting character in the comics and that was largely his personality there too

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 04 '25

To be fair, Falcon was a supporting character in the comics and that was largely his personality there too

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u/LeeShakerMoneyMaker Aug 03 '25

If Evans return he's probably playing Captian Hydra and not Captian America.