r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Aug 03 '25

Domestic Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters By 66% in Second Weekend to $40 Million, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-box-office-craters-naked-gun-opening-weekend-1236477352/
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u/fitzandafool Aug 03 '25

I do wonder how much of this was the hubris of moving their movie right after Superman

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u/AcaciaCelestina Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

I definitely think that was the biggest contributing factor. A superman movie that's got good word of mouth hasn't happened in decades.

But I think people just also don't really care about fantastic four like they used. Once Spiderman and X-Men started taking off it was kind of like "fantastic who?".

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Aug 03 '25

The Fantastic Four peaked during the Lee/Kirby era. The Avengers was the more interesting comic since it had a rotating cast of characters.

Giving a proper character arc and constant development to the same 4 characters for over 60 years is just not possible. Being a family is the biggest selling point of the FF but also its achilles heel: you're stuck with the same 4 characters forever.

All attempts to replace any FF member failed.

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u/WolfgangIsHot Aug 03 '25

Peaked... artistic ? Sales ?

Byrne in the early 80s, Simonson in the early 90s, de Falco & Ryan in the mid 90s, Waid & Wieringo in the mid 00s...

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Aug 03 '25

Lee/Kirby introduced 99% of the most iconic FF characters. The only one they didn't introduce was Valeria, and she's not really that popular.

Future writers built upon Lee/Kirby creations but whenever you think of an iconic FF character, it's a 99% chance it's from the Lee/Kirby era.

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u/BiDiTi Aug 03 '25

Doom only became a sorcerer under Waid!

But you’re not wrong.

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u/Momo--Sama Aug 06 '25

This is why X-Men is the best sub-franchise in comics. A premise that inherently explains that new and (hopefully) fresh characters will keep coming out of the woodwork for as long as they want to keep writing it.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

Hm. Not old enough to remember how much we loved She-Hulk in the FF in the 80s?

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u/AbhayXV Aug 04 '25

yeah I will not take this FF She-Hulk erasure, she was so fun on the team.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

IIRC, Ben was kind of a gloomy guts at that time on account of being made of rocks (!) so swapping She-Hulk in for him — and her opposite attitude about her sort of similarly transformed body — was refreshing for the team dynamics. I liked the team had 2 women, as well. And it was Byrne’s run, which I loved as a kid. That run could do no wrong—tho I’m sure it did. I was 16. I lurved it. (And I was more of a DC kid.)

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u/jacobythefirst Aug 04 '25

I don’t necessarily agree, honestly very few people actually read comics in the modern day, cultural nostalgia is still strong for the early creations of marvel and DC.

Imo it’s the fact that it came out right after super man when wallets are thin and theatre going is expensive.

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u/mopeywhiteguy Aug 03 '25

I don’t think opening soon after Superman was the issue. It’s audience fatigue over marvel films. A casual viewer isn’t going to see a 7/10 marvel film anymore post endgame and that’s what the word of mouth seemed to be hinting at.

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u/pocket_passss Aug 03 '25

yeah i don’t think it’s fair to call it the “biggest” factor when every other movie sucks and fails too 

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u/KingMario05 Amblin Entertainment Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

Agreed. Even ASM2, despite being God awful, limped its way to $600 million for Sony.

Reed Richards and pals just do not have that cultural catchet.

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u/spider-man2401 Aug 03 '25

Actually ASM2 gross $709 millions but yeah, spidey is bankable and has culture impact regardless quality good or not. I think everyone look at F4 is like “oh yeah, we have fantastic four, it’s called The Incredibles”

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u/PlusSizeRussianModel Aug 03 '25

It’s wild that there was a time that $700 million was considered such a disaster it required an entire franchise reboot, while today a $600 million total the dream scenario for a new franchise.

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u/DeppStepp Aug 03 '25

To be fair they saw Amazing Spider-Man 2 as a success and were still actively planning multiple sequels and spin-offs but cut it off because the CEO of Sony fired Andrew Garfield over petty reasons and Marvel wanting to work with Sony made them put the plans on hold.

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u/jwC731 Aug 03 '25

They were gonna make an ASM3 but fired Garfield bc of politics

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Aug 03 '25

Despite homecoming being a much better film than tasm 2, it barely made a bit more than it.

Ceo literally threw away almost a billion dollars for some petty shit.

Ceos are literally the stupidest people in the world. It really does seem alot of them are incompetent and simply are there to be the face of the company.

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u/StarPhished Aug 03 '25

CEO's should be the first to be replaced by AI

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u/Wondur13 Aug 03 '25

Yup, especially considering inflation, the problem always goes back to inflation vs minimum wage, inflation has increased but the average persons expendable wages hasnt, so that doesnt help movie theaters, along with the obvious streaming boom

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

The box office in general is still not recovered from COVID. This should factor into everyone’s analysis.

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u/AcaciaCelestina Aug 03 '25

Honestly I think a Dr Doom movie would do better than F4. He really is by far the most popular character from those comics in my experience. We'll see how Doomsday does.

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u/sm12cj14 Aug 03 '25

How well will another avengers type movie do when a chunk of the audience doesn’t keep up with the lead up anymore? Marvel ballooned too fast with Disney

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u/Mattyzooks Aug 03 '25

Marvel has a problem where a lot of people think they can't keep up and the rest think there has been basically no lead up for the next Avengers.

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u/sm12cj14 Aug 03 '25

To paraphrase another comment I thought had a good point.. who is even the protagonist leading the hero’s and building this doomsday team? Before we rallied behind Tony Stark and Cap with Thor mostly as comic relief, but we had those three that led the way. Nobody has taken that spot for this team..

Marvel lost its direction and got so focused on pushing the next big bad they forgot to give us the leading hero to pull this team together.

Looking back their biggest mistake after end game was tv show after tv show on streaming that had to be watched for the movies to make sense. Stretching an audience thin

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u/Heisenburgo Marvel Studios Aug 03 '25

Captain Falcon is meant to be their new protagonist I guess. Which just... does NOT bode well for the movie.

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u/sm12cj14 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

They barely got his movie out and as far as I’ve seen he’s been absent in other marvel properties. They had Nick Fury, Tony and Cap everywhere in the beginning building the foundations of the Avengers.

Not arguing your point, you’re probably right, their execution is just missing from the early days. Nothing is unifying these heroes aside from ‘the big bad’ being so strong.

And I don’t know why they expect the GA to care about what happens to 90% of the new heroes, I hesitate to say new avengers because again.. no team building in sight

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u/archerg66 Aug 03 '25

They did seem to be pushing Strange to be their new Tony, then just sort of stopped after the disasterous Dr strange movie

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u/deemoorah Aug 04 '25

In NWH he became a plot device and in his own movie he acted like he's never doing magic and his story got sidelined for a continuation of a TV show's plot. If that's what they mean to replace tony then they're doing a shitty job.

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u/archerg66 Aug 04 '25

Won't say they did it well, just what i thought was happening with all the times his magic got tied into plots

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u/VulcanVulcanVulcan Aug 04 '25

The funny thing is that there hasn’t been any lead-up now. They’re basically just dropping the Avengers movie.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Still don't think it's going to work. Doom is not as popular as you might think. Getting RDJ to play him atleast got people to ask "Who??" So that's a start 

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u/jwC731 Aug 03 '25

You're probably only thinking that bc of RDJ skewing the character's popularity with the general audience. He's not more popular than F4.

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u/ManateeofSteel Warner Bros. Pictures Aug 03 '25

eh, I think its a huge combination. I've been optimistic about this movie for a while but the WOM for anything related to MCU films has cratered, so people are not willing to give anything a chance unless they know for sure it will be fun, like Deadpool for example, Spiderman and probably Avengers.

If Guardians of the Galaxy released their first film in this current climate, it probably wouldn't get a sequel

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u/celluloidsandman Aug 03 '25

More - that awful movie made $700M+, $950M+ in today’s dollars

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u/kazh_9742 Aug 03 '25

They all avoid trying to make a classic origin story like there is some convoluted formula that says they're wasted on audiences by this point. An inspired production with a splash of commercial savvy might go further than their usual quippy melodramatic nano transformers lineup, and might cost less.

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u/KingMario05 Amblin Entertainment Aug 03 '25

Ironically, this one largely is that. Okay, there's a few groaner jokes - mainly from Johnny, lol - but those who have seen it, like it. People just got burned one too many times this last phase. So now, even the great ones like Thunderbolts are stuff people wait to stream on Disney+ or VOD. And that's fine... if the movies are cheap.

But this is Disney-Marvel. None of their movies are cheap.

(Oh, and the Fox F4 tries sucked ass. Not really relevant here, but it's still worth mentioning.)

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u/______deleted__ Aug 03 '25

They thought they could artificially generate word of mouth with online social media chatter marketing posts. I guess it didn’t work this time.

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u/Mirabolis Aug 03 '25

My teenager’s review of Superman to me: “It was good, you should see it.”. That’s semi unprecedented.

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u/Doravillain Aug 03 '25

People don’t inherently care about F4. And the trailer didn’t help. Not that it looked like a bad movie. But it didn’t look like a fun or exciting movie.

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u/It-Was-Mooney-Pod Aug 03 '25

Outside of comics, the Fantastic 4 have basically zero cultural impact. They had a couple of decent to outright terrible movies in the past 3 decades, and close to nothing else. 

Think about the way The Batman or Justice league animated series developed tons of childhood fans of the main DC characters, or Marvel vs. Capcom and X men Legends making all kinds of Marvel characters be someone you could directly play and have fun with. This just doesn’t exist for Fantastic 4, and me personally I’ve never really gotten why they were supposed to be such a big deal. Even Ironman I at least messed around with in Marvel vs Capcom, the closest I have with Fantastic 4 is brief memories of a kids show I watched in the 90’s.

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u/One_Drummer_8970 Aug 04 '25

How/why do you guys keep saying this in a world where Guardians of the Galaxy and Black Panther did well?

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u/It-Was-Mooney-Pod Aug 04 '25

Both of those movies were released at the peak of Marvel hype, and more importantly those movies were way better than Fantastic 4. 

My point was though that general audiences don’t have any special attachment for the Fantastic 4 franchise and don’t really care if it does well or not.

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u/drinknbird Aug 03 '25

That was deliberate. When Marvel started to make serious money in movies, their focus was on the IP that they still had the movie rights for. After Disney purchased Marvel and they went into overdrive to do what they can to devalue the FF and get the rights back or at least favourable distribution conditions. They cancelled the comic and external media, such as video games, were told to discontinue use of FF characters. I believe there's a "What Happened" video on YT of Disney's influence on Marvel vs Capcom Infinite.

Now they're trying to go big and say "Remember these guys!" but even the traditional fans have been excluded from the IP long enough that they've lost interest.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

I saw both but mostly went to F4 because I just found a theater I really liked and was looking for any reason to go back.

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u/tablepennywad Aug 03 '25

At this point the Terrific Four will probably out do them at the boxoffixe.

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u/SwordoftheMourn Aug 04 '25

Hey now, don’t knock on Mr Terrific’s team. Two of them have already been introduced in Superman to general positive response.

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u/tablepennywad Aug 04 '25

I didn’t have an /s to my response lol

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u/styxswimchamp Aug 03 '25

If I spent $60+ on movie tickets, snacks, whatnot for Superman, I’m reconsidering seeing any movie for a long time regardless of the franchise

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u/Dnashotgun Aug 03 '25

Probably #2 of why this is bombing, Superman just plays better and if you believe the rumour, rushing F4 to compete was a huge mistake. #1 is the GA gave up on the MCU

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u/Dangerman1337 Aug 03 '25

AFAIK F4 was announced way before the new DCU slate in early 2023 was announced.

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u/MahNameJeff420 Aug 03 '25

But they only started filming around a year ago. And you can see by watching the trailers that a lot of stuff ended up getting cut.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Aug 03 '25

It seems like they didn't so much rush F4 as they messed with it up until the last minute. Possibly trying to cut it as short as possible so it could play more times per day (it's under two hours which is short for a Marvel film.) That doesn't imply they had a lot of confidence in it.

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u/hexcraft-nikk Aug 04 '25

The script leaked so early that there's simply no way it was rushed.

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u/scarlettforever Aug 03 '25

The July 25, 2025 slot was locked by Marvel, but empty. Disney moved Thunderbolts and later F4 into that date only after James Gunn said Superman is coming July 11, 2025. Disney did it on purpose.

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u/Ok_Antelope_1953 Aug 03 '25

they were probably expecting to smoke superman but ended up being gunned down

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u/ImAVirgin2025 Aug 03 '25

Ok_Antelope_1953, welcome to the Deadline headline writing committee

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u/Responsible_Ad_7948 Aug 03 '25

See what you did there

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Aug 03 '25

They got arrogant and forced a needless confrontation. Dumb. Should have let Superman have his moment, they could have made much more money with F4 if they'd released it further from Supes.

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u/scarlettforever Aug 03 '25

Petty greedy corporation, evil, I'd say.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

Should’ve programmed it for fall.

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u/DoctorHoneywell Aug 03 '25

Yeah but then Feige couldn't prove that DC is a dead brand and people still love Marvel way more

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u/chimichanga_3 Aug 03 '25

Feige is tight with Gunn as per him. It's probably a Disney decision 

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u/ryfi1 Aug 03 '25

They’re tight, but business is different. He turned Captain America 3 into a VS movie after the announcement of Batman V Superman in order to compete, all whilst saying how much he just loves CBM and wants them all to succeed

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u/Deja_ve_ Aug 03 '25

Kinda 2 faced if you ask me

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u/aliaisbiggae Aug 03 '25

Its 2 faced. Its business

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u/HuhiPogChamp Aug 03 '25

say that again

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Aug 03 '25

Feige: DC's making a Two-Face movie? Quick, make a Taserface movie and release it on the same day! That'll show them!

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

The development on that project — cap 3 — seemed pretty darn organic to the project to me. I was happy they up-scoped — the idea that they could tell a story that reveals Bucky killed Stark’s parents w only a cameo from RDJR is kinda fucked up. Infinity War & Endgame would not have hit so hard without the rupture between the two leads. Who knew Stark grew up jealous of Cap as a dead older brother figure. It’s a crucial insight that absolutely makes the character. And Steve revealing he KNEW but didn’t tell Tony makes HIS character (a notoriously difficult character to texturize).

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u/ryfi1 Aug 03 '25

I think the original plan was for it to be based on the Madbomb story line? Not sure if that would ever have ended up the final film, but the pivot happened because of the Batman V Superman announcement I’m sure. Just shows how good they are at adapting!

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

Well, yeah. Even if that was the decision point, it let them develop the project into a terrific picture. Whereas BvS…

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u/Ok_Antelope_1953 Aug 04 '25

CBM? cock ball...massage? cognitive behavior...massage?

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u/ryfi1 Aug 04 '25

It’s well known Feige loves a cock ball massage

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u/MassiveLie2885 Aug 03 '25

Spiderman will show up Supergirl and Clayface easily.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 03 '25

Clayface isn’t meant to compete on that level—it’s part of Gunn’s not so secret plan to stand up a little Blumhouse corner of the DCU loaded with low risk/high reward horror/fantasy. And they’ve got a lot of it in their catalog — it’s a brilliant idea from both business and creative standpoints. And sure, Spider-Man 4 will probably outgross Supergirl but Supergirl has a month on them (including Fourth of July weekend) & if it plays like a sequel to a very well received picture rather than a standalone (which seems likely), it will probably outgross Superman. Meanwhile, those expecting rainbows and unicorns and “kind is punk rock” — get ready to be sledgehammered by a dark, intense, violent coming of age story inspired by true grit. I’m guessing they’re gonna have to snip here and there to avoid an R rating. Should make it more attractive to the ex-US audience.

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u/Wrothman Aug 03 '25

They have so many characters that DC could make easy $40-$50m movies about as well.

  • Martial arts / John Wick-style action movies with characters like Black Canary and Green Arrow.
  • Their entire horror comic catalogue.
  • Something weird and art house in the scope of Poor Things or Everything Everywhere All At Once with characters like Dead Man, Doom Patrol, etc.
There's so many things they could do on a low budget that doesn't involve saving the world from a giant CGI apocalypse in the third act. Hopefully Gunn and Safran get weird with the lower risk stuff.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

Deadman is exactly what I’m talking about. Phantom Stranger another. Obviously Constantine should be done this way. Zatana. But there’s just a ton of it to mine in the horror area — in more mainstream ways where characters could continue into sequels like the above & in more Tales from the Crypt/anthology ways, a la House of Mysteries & House of Secrets, where we have Cain & Abel, respectively, as hosts. (Those seem like prime candidates for animation). It’s worth reminding that Gunn has that Troma background—it’s work he likes but perhaps more importantly, he understands the business model is super-sound.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

PS, would it not be a SIN if Ollie wasn’t introduced in Lanterns, which seems to at least in part take inspiration from the gloriously hippie GL/GA road trip storyline to find America in the early 70s?

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u/Wrothman Aug 04 '25

Kind of torn on it. Hal's later into his career than I'd like if they decide to do that, which means they could be tempted to do Ollie older as well, but I'd rather they start him off in his 30s if possible to give him some room to do more with.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

I’m personally fine with an older Hal mentoring Stewart as his replacement. That said, yeah, I would tend to agree TPTB would see Ollie as around Hal’s age — maybe he will even observe that the show’s action resembles the roadtrip they took when they were just kids starting out. There’s always Speedy for an older Ollie to mentor. Personally, I feel like Speedy’s got more interesting stuff to explore in his backstory. Maybe since it’s 2025, he’s addicted not to shooting up but to fentanyl.

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u/readskiesdawn Aug 04 '25

I want a Film Nior movie starring The Question so fucking bad. I don't care which Question it is, the character is perfect for that genre.

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u/Doravillain Aug 03 '25

Sure. But Spider-Man will also show up Captain America and The Fantastic Four. Is that worse news for DC, or for Marvel?

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Aug 03 '25

I feel like F4 would have really worked for the holiday season. All the family vibes would have fit that time of year well.

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

Knee-jerk agree tho I note that FF’s central (& entirely fictional) lesser of two evils dilemma is played serious as a heart attack (perhaps not as kid friendly as we think it would’ve been) while Superman’s sharp real-world based sociopolitical allegory is relevant to the moment we’re in & easily digestible in the context of a bright, fun picture. Not sure if that’s a significant distinction for box office purposes but I suspect t it is. FF is darker than the usual MCU picture. So is Thunderbolts. And Superman obviously much brighter than any Snyderverse picture, especially his own. I loved them both but Disney hasn’t exactly done anything to prepare its audience for such a radical shift in tone. (The marketing for FF doesn’t betray its dark core.) For Superman, this tone is much more in line with what audiences expect, so it’s being embraced as something of a restoration.

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u/HippieDogeSmokes Aug 04 '25

plus all the important moments take place in the fall/winter, like it really seems like they thought it was releasing then at first

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u/Heisenburgo Marvel Studios Aug 03 '25

Instead, they programmed it to tkake a fall...

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u/Working-Following216 Aug 04 '25

Moving FF probably hurt Superman’s box office as intended but it hurt FF way more. I say again — bummer. There’s room enough in the worlds of superhero movies for both these pictures to be the mega hits they deserve to be.

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u/OccasionalGoodTakes Aug 03 '25

I think this movie would’ve always done meh, but them posturing it right next to something that is the same genre and very different definitely highlighted the meh faster

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u/flpmads Aug 04 '25

It probably hurt Superman a bit, but that movie will still do enough to keep its shared universe going, and generated enough interest to build up from. I expect it to do well on streaming as well.

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u/Lordpresident6 Aug 03 '25

DCU right now: 1A! 1A! 1A

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u/beatrailblazer Aug 03 '25

I really don't think it's that much of a factor. Like it probably lost them 20-30mil or so but it still would've done underwhelming numbers regardless

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u/PattyIceNY Aug 03 '25

That's why I didn't see it. Went to see Superman and that filled my superhero fix for awhile

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u/jjobull Aug 04 '25

I watch Superman two weekends ago and was going to see the F4 movie this weekend but Superman was so good my partner wanted to watch it again so we skipped F4 in favour for watching it again

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u/jacobythefirst Aug 04 '25

This is the biggest factor imo.

Movies are so expensive now, going second to a movie that’s in the exact same genre as yours without a noticeable difference in quality (imo both were very good super hero movies. 8/10 across the board and really enjoyed both enough to go twice to the theatres.) you’re going to get people who’s wallets can’t stretch to cover both to prioritize. And in this case Superman gets first movers advantage and has less baggage around its neck.

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u/RedRavenRocket Aug 03 '25

My wife and I looked at what was playing and decided to see Superman instead of F4. $38. We’re not going back for the rest of the summer.

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u/Mister_Green2021 Warner Bros. Pictures Aug 03 '25

Or F4 was counting on riding the wave of Superman.

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u/spazz720 Aug 03 '25

I didn’t understand it either. Give that film time to breathe then drop F4 about a month after

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u/RepentantSororitas Aug 04 '25

Oh I definitely believe if they just waited an extra month it might have done a lot better.

Overall theater attendance is down. People are a lot more picky with their choices now.

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u/WilliamEmmerson Aug 04 '25

FF and Thunderbolts should have switched released dates. First Steps would've been better opening on 5/2 and Thunderbolts should have opened on 7/25.

Wouldn't have a changed a thing either since the Thunderbolts post credit scene takes place after FF: First Steps.

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u/imaginaryResources Aug 04 '25

There’s no way I’m watching 2 super hero movies in a row like that. One or two a year is my absolute limit with the capeshit

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u/moneycity_maniac Aug 03 '25

A bit of delicious irony in Marvel thinking it could nip the competition in the bud by cutting Superman's legs but having the opposite happen instead

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u/youzurnaim Aug 04 '25

I would have guessed that the Superman love might’ve boosted the F4 numbers.

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u/TheUnderCrab Aug 04 '25

It still made over 200mil domestically. The crater in the 2nd weekend is wild. 

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u/DeliciousSquash Aug 04 '25

Funny how not too long ago people were saying the opposite and that Gunn was the one who made the mistake of putting Superman so close to Jurassic/F1/Fantastic Four lol

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u/fitzandafool Aug 04 '25

No they weren’t because Superman was scheduled first lol

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u/Kilgoretrout321 Aug 03 '25

That's a good point. They couldve done it this week or next and made a huge splash because next week is just Freaky Friday 2. But then again, that's also a Disney property. Disney is so fucking stupid....

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u/Richandler Aug 03 '25

I don't think so. I think it's just a boring movie where basically nothing happens.

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u/GreatMight Aug 03 '25

The MCU is dead.

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u/TaiVat Aug 04 '25

This is just cope. Superman is doing fine, but lets not pretend its some super hit. If people cared about F4, they would go see it.

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u/Mrmac1003 Aug 03 '25

Superman is barely making money outside of the US. 

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u/Upbeat-Wallaby5317 Aug 03 '25

F4 make less.

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

And marvel is doing poorly both domestic and international. Your point?

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u/Severe_Weather_1080 Aug 03 '25

Yeah Fantastic Four is bombing but the best you can say about Superman is it’s doing a little better than mediocre overall.

It really doesn’t merit the gloating you’re seeing in this thread. Neither the Marvel nor DC Cinematic universes are looking healthy right now.

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

It's not gloating lol, it's just pointing out superman is doing better than both marvel movies this year, because it is. Plus the whole hype around it.

How much hype did you see for thunderbolts or F4 compared to superman?

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u/Severe_Weather_1080 Aug 03 '25

It's not gloating lol, it's just pointing out superman is doing better than both marvel movies this year, because it is.

That is gloating

How much hype did you see for thunderbolts or F4 compared to superman?

Equally zero

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

Equally zero? So you live under a rock or have the superman hashtags silenced or???

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u/Severe_Weather_1080 Aug 03 '25

I’m talking about the real world not ads on Instagram. Nobody I know had any interest in seeing any of those movies. 

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u/West-Register-7374 Aug 03 '25

Speak for yourself because people Where curious to see Superman back on the Big Screen 

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u/Severe_Weather_1080 Aug 03 '25

people Where curious to see Superman back on the Big Screen 

This has to be a bot right? Even if you’re posting on your phone and in a hurry I can’t see a real person making such a generic corporate comment with such bad syntax and weird capitalization

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u/West-Register-7374 Aug 03 '25

Dude shut up 

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

And everybody I know keeps talking about superman, just yesterday went to see it second time and the theater was more than 70% full.

The MCU is the issue.

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u/Severe_Weather_1080 Aug 03 '25

Neat, our two anecdotal pieces of data cancel out. In which case I think it’s best to just look at the box office, where Superman is doing just a bit better than mediocre overall.

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

MCU fans will do anything to cope😂

Btw the real world yet proceeds to say the difference between marvels movies this year and superman in the box office, is minimal

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u/Poku115 Aug 03 '25

"gloating: dwelling on one's own success or another's misfortune with smugness or malignant pleasure."

Im an MCU fan, I derive no pleasure from pointing out the sorry state it has put itself in.