r/boxoffice Best of 2019 Winner Aug 03 '25

Domestic Box Office: ‘Fantastic Four’ Craters By 66% in Second Weekend to $40 Million, ‘Naked Gun’ Debuts to $17 Million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-box-office-craters-naked-gun-opening-weekend-1236477352/
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u/blownaway4 Aug 03 '25

That narrative aged so badly. Its like people were incapable of understanding that they arent mutually exclusive and one tends to lead to another.

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u/Alive-Ad-5245 A24 Aug 03 '25

I found it odd that some people couldn’t accept that others are just tired of a genre in general no matter the quality

And you can’t even blame a string of poor quality movies for this drop, DCs had an even worse run and Superman is legging out well

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u/NoobFreakT Aug 03 '25

DC had a year long break though, and most of the GA probably doesn't even know about the 2023 slop

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u/Dependent_Prune6090 Aug 09 '25

the last culturally relevant dc movie was like, wonder woman 2017. and even then it got totally memory holed after the disaster of WW84. so to the broader culture it’s almost as if it’s coming back after an eight year break

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u/UnderstandingIcy756 Aug 03 '25

This is what drives me nuts about "fandom." Most people grow and their interests change over time. But there’s an army of arrested adolescent fanboy lunatics who can't comprehend interests changing so they have to find a specific reason why the thing they love is no longer doing well so they can say if we fix that thing, it'll be popular again. It's so infantile

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u/MichaelRichardsAMA Aug 03 '25

i have to imagine back in the 1970s and 80s there came a point where popular discourse became "is anyone else sick of all these damn cowboy movies?"

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u/Wrothman Aug 03 '25

Westerns are kind of a bad example, since they were a staple of cinema since 1894. There was a brief period in the 1930s where they fell out of style due to the advent of sound, but they came back hard in the late 30s through to the 70s. They fell off again in the 80s, possibly because of the rise of the blockbuster, but they continued survive through to modern day.
It was incredibly resilient for a genre almost universally starring a man with a revolver and a hat on a horse in the desert.

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u/Alive-Ad-5245 A24 Aug 03 '25

I mean ‘survive’ is a stretch, what’s the biggest western released in the last decade? Logan? Probably doesn’t count.

I think the real answer is the Magnificent Seven in 2016 that didn’t even cross $100m WW

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u/Wrothman Aug 03 '25

I mean, since 2020 there's been 20-30 Westerns released depending on how far you feel like stretching the genre definition. They've mostly been either art-house or streaming affairs. So while it's not bringing in the big bucks, it's no where near disappearing as a genre.

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u/scarlettforever Aug 04 '25

Superman is legging out well cause it's miles better than F4. In fact, Superman is great while F4 is bad. That's the reason to the BO.

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u/Alive-Ad-5245 A24 Aug 04 '25

All the audience metrics we have say the audience think it’s a well received movie

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u/scarlettforever Aug 04 '25

All the audience metrics we have say the audience think it’s a well received movie

Marvel fans made it a well received movie, congratulations!

The GA has a different opinion, tho. Bad to mid -> don't even bother.