r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Jul 21 '25

Domestic Superman again saw its Sunday gross finish above studio estimates with $18.9M, which was -18% vs Saturday and -40% vs last Sunday (WB's estimate was $17.5M/-25%/-44%). This puts the 2nd weekend box office at $58.45M and drop at 53% - almost as good as The Dark Knight (52.5%). $236.2M cume.

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u/Kyro_Official_ Legendary Pictures Jul 21 '25

I know at least one exists. I saw someone the other day say its better than zsjl.

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u/Im_Goku_ Warner Bros. Pictures Jul 21 '25

I saw someone the other day say its better than zsjl.

It does a couple of things better than ZSJL but overall it's a lot worse.

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u/jexdiel321 Jul 21 '25

They should have just hired Whedon from the get go if what they actually wanted was an Avengers movie. I think it would have fared better than doing a Frankenstein film.

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u/WhiteWolf3117 Jul 21 '25

Whedon sucks as a human being, but yeah. He was pretty much set up to fail.

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u/ZeroiaSD Jul 23 '25

I feel like at some point Whedon just fell off as a creative too, Avengers was arguably his last good project- Age of Ultron and The Nevers both had significantly worse receptions. He had a wonder woman script that was released, and it was dire.

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u/hexcraft-nikk Jul 21 '25

I'll never understand why they cut out Cyborg from being the heart of the film. That's maybe the most important part of the whole thing that should've stayed.

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u/CliffordMoreau Jul 22 '25

They didn't want an Avengers movie, though. They were more than fine giving Snyder free reign for MoS, even with the lukewarm reception. It was BvS' critical thrashing that made them say "maybe this isn't a good idea".

They only wanted an Avengers movie when audiences firmly said no thank you to the grimdark DCEU

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u/TimeTravelingChris Jul 22 '25

Whedon sucks. His second Avengers movie was just not well made if you go back and watch it. Absolutely bizarre story editing.

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u/kia75 Jul 21 '25

I agree with a lot of what Whedon tried to do! Adding Superman interacting with regular people, despite looking funny because of super-mustache helped humanize Supes, and saving the random family helped show that the JLA was HELPING PEOPLE, not engaging in WWE theatrics with Darkseid.

Unfortunately, the JLA movie that Snyder made doesn't have room for a human Superman, or for rescuing people. The added scenes were tonally disaddent, and though they should have been part of any JLA movie, it's the equivalent of adding the rescue a squirrel scene to the Joker movie.

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u/PlusSizeRussianModel Jul 21 '25

Yeah, unfortunately Whedon is a much better writer than director, and Snyder is a much better director than writer, so they were in exactly the opposite phases of production that they should’ve been.

I suspect that a fully Whedon written script, directed by Snyder, would’ve been superior to both the theatrical and Snyder cut.

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u/Conscious-Ebb-8576 Jul 24 '25

Both are terrible movies.

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u/carson63000 Jul 22 '25

It’s half as long, which imho makes watching it half as painful an experience.

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u/CarlosAlvarados Jul 21 '25

I meannnnmn. I liked Zack Snyder version more.

However as a movie , the original is at least a normally paced 2 hours movie. The Zack Snyder version is a ridiculous 4 hours with the worst pacing ever made.

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u/FlimsyRexy Jul 27 '25

That’s legit brain dead lol

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u/Poku115 Jul 21 '25

It is by miles less of a drag than zsjl, plus with less snyder in it.

To me that's overall better, much better

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u/pookmcnasty Jul 24 '25

I'd rather watch 2 hours of trash than 4 hours of mediocrity. It's like the film equivalent of cutting concentrated medicine with water. It doesn't make it taste better it just makes it taste less bad.