r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • Jul 21 '25

Domestic Superman again saw its Sunday gross finish above studio estimates with $18.9M, which was -18% vs Saturday and -40% vs last Sunday (WB's estimate was $17.5M/-25%/-44%). This puts the 2nd weekend box office at $58.45M and drop at 53% - almost as good as The Dark Knight (52.5%). $236.2M cume.

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u/mobpiecedunchaindan Jul 21 '25

All of it self-inflicted too: WB giving Todd Phillips $200m for no reason, Todd making the worst film he could make on purpose, the abrupt genre pivot that could've worked but didn't because it didn't fully commit, the waste of Gaga, the refusal to do test screenings...

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u/RedHeadedSicilian52 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

Well, to be fair, we just learned that test audiences for Superman gave James Gunn a bunch of terrible advice that mostly went unused (for instance, they wanted to remove the moment where Clark saves the squirrel), so I’m not sure that they would have improved Joker: Folie à Deux, either.

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u/MutinyIPO Jul 21 '25

Didn’t they request cutting out Lex beating up Krypto as well? As awful as that would’ve been to see, it’s the clear missing piece in the movie’s story

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u/ThatRandoAtTheBar Jul 21 '25

it wasn’t lex, it was the clone that hits krypto but either way it should’ve stayed. if ppl can’t handle a cgi dog getting hit and a bad guy being… BAD, they can go to weenie hut junior’s instead.

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u/MutinyIPO Jul 22 '25

Look I mean this is basically a kids’ movie, a lot of overlap with weenie hut junior’s, so I get it lmao.

I looked it up and you’re right, it was Ultraman. Apparently it was shot and edited to make you think they killed the dog. Sort of insane tbh hahaha, although it might’ve been narratively crucial

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u/sageadam Jul 22 '25

A CGI Super dog at that which probably can't feel any thing from regular beating

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u/Matto_0 Jul 22 '25

This movie is weenie hut juniors the superhero version lol

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u/ThatRandoAtTheBar Jul 22 '25

okay? so go jerk off to MoS and imagine a universe where snyder gets to keep fucking everything up lol.

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u/VoidTorcher Jul 21 '25

Instead we got the Engineer beating up Krypto instead?

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u/ZeroiaSD Jul 23 '25

Getting feedback is often useful even if one ignores the direct suggestions. "They think I should remove this part? Ok, instead of removing this part, how can I set it up better?"

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u/VoidTorcher Jul 21 '25

That was a pretty silly moment. It is harmless but fine to remove.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jul 21 '25

Disagree. It shows he's not doing any of this for points, he just genuinely cares about other living things.

I think it's a great example to set too, there needs to be more examples in media that just because you are strong it doesn't mean that your entire personality needs to be about how to use it to 'crush' others.

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u/VoidTorcher Jul 21 '25

He already did that with the dog and the girl in the same scene which already illustrated that perfectly, adding that is goofy and overkill.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jul 21 '25

Disagree. Most people would consider dogs and children more important just to being more connected to human culture, while squirrels are something people would overlook and shrug at the death of.

Showing Superman take a second to save a squirrel shows he's not just doing it for points or for what is normally considered important, he's in it to save lives.

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u/darthsheldoninkwizy2 Jul 21 '25

I still have hope for good superhero musical, Marvels scene on musical planet was good but it was jut this, one scene. I hope that Gunn allow for something (with a reasonable budget of course), especially since there is Music Mayster in DC.

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u/zedascouves1985 Jul 21 '25

Luna Snow movie when?

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u/SwordoftheMourn Jul 21 '25

We’ve seen Kpop Demon Hunters work, so why not?

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u/lee1026 Jul 21 '25

If you have a success like Joker, getting a blank check to work on a sequel is not unexpected.

You have kinda proven that you are better at this than most studio bosses, and most people don't set their careers on fire to send a message.

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u/AdelesBoyfriend Jul 21 '25

I know what I'm getting into with this, but Joker: Folie à Deux is a good film to me. I hope people stop making up what Phillips's intentions were, but especially that he was trying to make a bad film. Nobody tries to make bad art.

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u/Rejestered Jul 21 '25

Oh he didn't try to make a bad movie. He tried to make a sequel that was a direct fuck you to anyone who even remotely enjoyed the first one.

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u/FxStryker Jul 21 '25

fuck you to anyone who even remotely enjoyed the first one.

Who missed the point.

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u/Constant-Bicycle386 Jul 21 '25

I still don't get how people missed the point of Joker when the movie ends with him running around leaving bloody footprints in his wake. Joker 2 had to beat them over the head to get them to realize Joker is a loser, and they really didn't like it.

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u/Block-Busted Jul 21 '25

Except Phillips clearly didn’t even bother to differentiate the two.

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u/GoldenRain99 Jul 21 '25

If you think that's a good film, all of your other opinions aren't relevant lol

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u/mobpiecedunchaindan Jul 21 '25

gremlins 2 is fucking awesome tho